Hardy Goes Beserk on Sidelines

[Sydla]

Watching ESPN First Take, they are all giving Hardy a pass on it. Says it's understandable even SAS

Besides he was yelling at the special teams and honestly, they weren't special.

It shouldnt' be a surprise that SAS would think it was OK when the rest of the football world thinks Hardy was wrong.

 

[NeonNinja]

JG should have pulled a Mike Singletary Move and sent Hardy to the Locker Room. Problem is Jason "Milk Toast" Garrett is probably scared straight of Hardy. I love Hardy's passion and fire but he needs to worry about the defense before sticking his nose in Special Team Issues.

Good luck with that. He just stood there and had no clue what to do. I'm shocked he didn't start clapping.

 

[PAINFROMUKRAINE]

The inmates are running the Asylum. The Video shows Opie doing nothing but "standing back', taking off his headset, and touching is hair. I am surprised he was not clapping. As the HC, it was a great example to the fans, players, and coaches of who is in charge of this team. A real HC like Ditka would have got in Hardy's face and made him back down. I guess the this forum is right, we cannot blame JG for anything that goes bad because he is not in charge. He is just a HC in Training.

 

[LocimusPrime]

It shouldnt' be a surprise that SAS would think it was OK when the rest of the football world thinks Hardy was wrong.

Wasn't just SAS, skip was ok with it too. They don't agree on much, and berserk is kind of harsh. Dez acts like that every game. Go out Friday and sat night and there are dudes that act like that at every bar you walk into. One time outburst is no biggie, if it happens 2-3x then tell him to tone it down. 90s Cowboys where waaaaaaaay rougher, media didn't cover it as much as they do nowadays.

 

[adbutcher]

Well apparently Dez had a problem. That's why he went after Hardy on the sideline and those two had to be separated.

Guess you now want Bryant off the team.

What was demonstrated? That Hardy is a hot head who can't control himself and trucked himself into a special teams huddle because he wanted to tear the coach a new butthole? Trying to sell that as good sideline emotion and fire is bizarre.

Only a fool would want either off the team. it's football, things get heated especially when you are losing. I would take 22 Hardys on my team. I willing to bet Dez would say the same.

 

[Idgit]

...A real HC like Ditka would have got in Hardy's face and made him back down...

lol. Totally.

 

[td4mvp2k]

Only a fool would want either off the team. it's football, things get heated especially when you are losing. I would take 22 Hardys on my team. I willing to bet Dez would say the same.

+1. this team is full of betas starting with the HC tbh

 

[erod]

Hardy was out of line, but that is the least of my concerns about yesterday.

Of course, they had a camera trained on his every move. I hate that about the media these days.

Still, he needs to save that for later. It doesn't help matters in the middle of a game.

 

[Sydla]

Wasn't just SAS, skip was ok with it too. They don't agree on much, and berserk is kind of harsh. Dez acts like that every game. Go out Friday and sat night and there are dudes that act like that at every bar you walk into. One time outburst is no biggie, if it happens 2-3x then tell him to tone it down. 90s Cowboys where waaaaaaaay rougher, media didn't cover it as much as they do nowadays.

When has Dez gone chest to chest with a coach in a huddle that he has nothing to do with and then slapped the clipboard out of the coach's hands.

It's puzzling that people want to compare what hardy did to Dez getting pissed on the sideline or Brady and O'Brien yelling at each other. And LOL comparing this to a bunch of guys in a bar.

 

[Sydla]

Only a fool would want either off the team. it's football, things get heated especially when you are losing. I would take 22 Hardys on my team. I willing to bet Dez would say the same.

I don't want either off the team. But you clearly said that you don't want to associate with anyone who had an issue with what Hardy did. Well, Bryant did apparently because he got in Hardy's face and they had to be separated.

This isn't about booting Hardy off the team. I don't want that at this point. But is is about realizing that what he did was wrong and that if it happens again, you can't write it off as good sideline emotion and fire. You can't have players barging into team huddles to tear into a coach. How anyone thinks that's OK and good and what you want to see on the sidelines is some of the most bizarre stuff ever.

And for the record, I don't think Garrett is a good coach and Biascica is terrible. So I am not taking the position I am taking to defend either. But despite how poor a coach or staff we have, you can't have players doing what Hardy did. If he pulls a stunt like that again, he should be fined and/or suspended by the Cowboys.

 

[Idgit]

Guys let's try to keep the thread on topic, and stick to topics that aren't so likely to become divisive or to brush up agains the guidelines. Thanks.

 

[Clarkson]

Hardy was out of line, but that is the least of my concerns about yesterday.

Of course, they had a camera trained on his every move. I hate that about the media these days.

Still, he needs to save that for later. It doesn't help matters in the middle of a game.

My feelings exactly. I don't like it, and it's not the right time and it's far from ideal. But, it's also not a big deal. If you ask him to take away his passion and fire, he's not the same player. Dude was upset that the team allowed that to happen. He shouldn't have done that, and I hope he doesn't again. But it's nothing.

 

[KingLerxst]

As I recall from Jimmy's own book he said Haley came up and stood right in his face. But Haley didn't yell at Johnson. He didn't slap anything out of Johnsons hand. He came up to the front of the locker room and stood real close. But he didn't go over board.

You know why? Because he knew Jimmy would have canned him, great player or not.

And you notice that those other things got him ran out of San Fran despite the fact that the guy was a great player who had helped them win 2 Superbowls.

Yes MULTIPLE incidents are what got Haley run out of San Fran. And getting in Johnsons face is pretty much the same as what Hardy did. Both were acts of challenging a coach. And if this board were around back then. The same people calling for Hardys head on a platter today,would be calling for Haleys. Yet Johnson himself said it was OK. Because it was Haley and they knew how to deal with him. Just like coaches and team mates today are saying the same thing about Hardy. Funny how some in the Media and fans are more incensed then the people that were actually involved.

Edit: If you think Johnson would have canned him for this. You don't know Jimmy very well. He admittedly treated star players differently.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Comparing Greg Hardy and Tom Brady is moronic and you know full well why. Hardy's rep is hot garbage in the eyes of the non-Dallas-homer public. He needed to come here and keep his nose clean in order to keep this signing from being under a constant microscope. He has completely failed to do that in both weeks he has suited up. This crap has to stop.

So the truth comes out. I figured that was the underlying cause of your unhapiness. You don't like him for what you think he "might" have done with his ex, I get that but your post was that getting into an altercation on the sideline is wrong. My view on this is that we really don't know what happend that night he was arrested, the facts are unclear so I reserve judgement on the charater of the man, as a result I have zero problem for him slapping a clipboard out of a crap coach's hand who had shoved him first. And yes, Brady has yelled and screamed at many coaches, so I feel no problems in comparing the two either

You couldn't have picked a worse example to prove your point. Guys can argue and disagree with a coach in the heat of the moment. Brady never swiped at him or knock his playbook pout of his hand. He took his *** chewing while defending himself, even after the coach came back for more. If you think this is the same scenario, you couldn't be more wrong.

The original quote talked about disagreements being bad on the sideline. I was simply making reference to the fact many of the great players have had sideline incidents. Brady was held back a few times from teammates who knows what would have happend. Either way, this is being over blown by the media simply because it's Hardy. The team doesn't seem bothered by what happend, most of the players say he was trying to encourage them. Perhaps he let his emotions get the best of him, but let's not make it more than it is.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

A real HC like Ditka would have got in Hardy's face and made him back down.

Or he would have crop dusted him into submission.

 

[AsthmaField]

Honestly, this type of stuff happens in football a lot more than people think.

Hardy is high strung... that's part of what makes him so good. He is far from the only guy that has done things like this on an NFL sideline. It is a violent game played by violent men, and sometimes their emotions get the better of them.

Greg is one of the players on this team that we do not have to worry about. He is doing everything he needs to and then some.

Only the fans and media are worried about this. The players and coaches will write it off as heat of the moment, competitive, testosterone fueled desire to win.

It is really ok. I promise.

 

[TheCount]

+1. this team is full of betas starting with the HC tbh

lol @ anyone calling a professional athlete a beta from the comfort of their computer chair.

 

[Clarkson]

Or he would have crop dusted him into submission.

LOL.
Cris Carter's face after that happens is hilarious.

 

[PAINFROMUKRAINE]

My feelings exactly. I don't like it, and it's not the right time and it's far from ideal. But, it's also not a big deal. If you ask him to take away his passion and fire, he's not the same player. Dude was upset that the team allowed that to happen. He shouldn't have done that, and I hope he doesn't again. But it's nothing.

This is about respecting the Coaching staff. Hardy and Dez getting into it is no big deal but when it involves a Coach it crosses the line. Hardy needs to know his place. TO was always suspended for many issues even though he was one of the best players on his respective teams. Do you think Parcells would brush this off as a Non-Issue. Hardy must have been frustrated as hell but he must learn to control his frustrations. JG needs to send a message to the entire team that this type of behavior will not be tolerated on his watch and he is the Captain of the Ship. This is the Dallas Cowboys not the Oakland Raiders.

 

[Clarkson]

lol @ anyone calling a professional athlete a beta from the comfort of their computer chair.

also saying they "don't care enough about losing" or "aren't passionate enough."