Hate to say it, but looks like Jeanty has a excellent chance to become a Cowboy!

[Risen Star]

 

[Risen Star]

My problem with drafting Jeanty is I don’t know how he will handle being Rico Dowdle's backup. He's used to being the star.

 

[gtb1943]

The so called gomers seem to pick well most of the time. Those gomers are going to have a chance at some good players this time in the 10 to 12 range and in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

same gomers that picked Mazi and Schoon and Taco too high

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Could we not flip the coin and say this also was against non-SEC/ACC type conferences

BTW.......check out these advanced stats ( PFF )

2024......2496 rushing yards but 1882 yards after contact, 7.2 avg before contact, 5.4 after....60-10+ yards
Career.....4661 rushing yards but 3469 yards after contact, 50 career TDs .....8 fumbles

 

[Cowboyny]

Could we not flip the coin and say this also was against non-SEC/ACC type conferences

BTW.......check out these advanced stats ( PFF )

2024......2496 rushing yards but 1882 yards after contact, 7.2 avg before contact, 5.4 after....60-10+ yards
Career.....4661 rushing yards but 3469 yards after contact, 50 career TDs .....8 fumbles

The biggest question is do you want a really good starter on 1 contract or another who has a longer shelf life? No doubt Jeanty is a stud and would instantly be a star in this league, question is how long can he do it for? Some buck the trend, but most don’t

 

[cnuball21]

Is it a concern that Jeanty has over 800 carries in college?

It should…I think he might’ve broken McFaddens college record for touches.

 

[cnuball21]

Jeanty is a playmaker. You cannot ever have enough of those.

It wouldn't be my favorite pick in the 1st (that'd be Graham, but Carter is growing on me. Two Micahs on the field at once would be ridiculous.), but you can't deny he's a game changer.

Would you rather spend your 1st round on a game changing RB, or a less talented, but "pretty good" prospect that is a position of need?

The reason I wouldn’t want to spend a 1st on Jeanty is because you can draft a good player at a position that costs twice as much in FA and still get a quality starting RB a round or 2 later.

If you take Jeanty in the 1st there is an incredibly low chance you’re getting a player as good as Omarion Hampton / Kaleb Johnson at WR / DE / DT / DB etc…

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The biggest question is do you want a really good starter on 1 contract or another who has a longer shelf life? No doubt Jeanty is a stud and would instantly be a star in this league, question is how long can he do it for? Some buck the trend, but most don’t

I think we will start to see ALL rookie running backs playing at a high level challenge their teams for a new contract after their 3rd year, just as Zeke did. I'm pretty sure we will not have another DeMarco Murray type of situation where Jerry ran him to the ground on the final year of his rookie contract and then lowballed him.
But yea their shelf is short but that's always been the case. It's up to the team to maximize their value within 5-6 years of service. If I can draft Jeanty outside in the first round outside of 10 and he's a key factor in getting me a Super Bowl over the next 3-5 years. I will take that every time.

 

[Cowboyny]

I think we will start to see ALL rookie running backs playing at a high level challenge their teams for a new contract after their 3rd year, just as Zeke did. I'm pretty sure we will not have another DeMarco Murray type of situation where Jerry ran him to the ground on the final year of his rookie contract and then lowballed him.
But yea their shelf is short but that's always been the case. It's up to the team to maximize their value within 5-6 years of service. If I can draft Jeanty outside in the first round outside of 10 and he's a key factor in getting me a Super Bowl over the next 3-5 years. I will take that every time.

The running game has re-emerged in a big way. Many teams have used the duo back system will great success, where a select few have had success with an elite 1 back system. Just look at the impact of the fa signings of Barkley, Henry, Jacobs this offseason. My biggest worry is as you discussed, will we be forced to overpay in that 3rd year to keep such a player when you know his best football is behind him?

I think in Jeanty's case, the team who drafts him, has to assume that they are going to have to extend him in the middle of his rookie contract to fulfill the 1st rd investment of least 5 seasons. Every case is different, just look at those fa backs, they all are playing at a high level. It is very possible a player like Jeanty can still produce on a 2nd contract if used right throughout his career. Cannot work him to death like Murray or even like Zeke, although they are different types of backs who took on way too many direct hits.

 

[Aven8]

What worries me is for two straight years we haven’t drafted one because the “draft didn’t fall that way” from Stephen and we miss another year of drafting one……

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The running game has re-emerged in a big way. Many teams have used the duo back system will great success, where a select few have had success with an elite 1 back system. Just look at the impact of the fa signings of Barkley, Henry, Jacobs this offseason. My biggest worry is as you discussed, will we be forced to overpay in that 3rd year to keep such a player when you know his best football is behind him?

I think in Jeanty's case, the team who drafts him, has to assume that they are going to have to extend him in the middle of his rookie contract to fulfill the 1st rd investment of least 5 seasons. Every case is different, just look at those fa backs, they all are playing at a high level. It is very possible a player like Jeanty can still produce on a 2nd contract if used right throughout his career. Cannot work him to death like Murray or even like Zeke, although they are different types of backs who took on way too many direct hits.

Good post.......nailed it
No way he's going to five years at a high level and NOT have a new deal.
Just to be clear, IF Tmac, Burden and Jeanty are all there for our pick........I'm taking one of the WR and settling on a 2nd/3rd rounder and FA running back. Adding one of those players with Lamb is to good to pass up......not to mention there is a bit of a drop-off to the 3rd/4th best player.

 

[Cowboyny]

Good post.......nailed it
No way he's going to five years at a high level and NOT have a new deal.
Just to be clear, IF Tmac, Burden and Jeanty are all there for our pick........I'm taking one of the WR and settling on a 2nd/3rd rounder and FA running back. Adding one of those players with Lamb is to good to pass up......not to mention there is a bit of a drop-off to the 3rd/4th best player.

I agree I would take WR's over him, but we need to ask this question:

-How big of a gap is Jeanty to the 2nd tier RB's in Hampton/Johnson? Both would probably be off the board the time we pick, so probably looking more at the 3rd tier.

-Same goes for the WR position. How big of a gap from the top 2 to the 3rd tier at the position?

In my opinion, if you are picking outside of the top 10, if T-Mac or Jeanty is there, they have to be the pick. I like Burden too, but I worry about the Cowboys prototype about the position.

 

[rambo2]

same gomers that picked Mazi and Schoon and Taco too high

Tell us who you would pick if you think you could do better.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I agree I would take WR's over him, but we need to ask this question:

-How big of a gap is Jeanty to the 2nd tier RB's in Hampton/Johnson? Both would probably be off the board the time we pick, so probably looking more at the 3rd tier.

-Same goes for the WR position. How big of a gap from the top 2 to the 3rd tier at the position?

In my opinion, if you are picking outside of the top 10, if T-Mac or Jeanty is there, they have to be the pick. I like Burden too, but I worry about the Cowboys prototype about the position.

I'm a step further and not focused on the disparity of the gap but on which would have the biggest/impact........that's Tmac over Jeanty IMO. Reason
* Not only are you getting a day-one starter but a starter you can certainly feel good about a 2nd contract
* Lions and Eagles have shown how TWO elite WRs can open your running game, so a 2nd tier guy will be fine IMO.
* Lamb contract has an out 2027 .....Tmac can be his replacement if needy.

BTW...I agree on Birden size but from everything I'm reading, he's a master technician at the position with a very high IQ ( route runner and YAC ) Think Amari Cooper and Deebo in one........

 

[Cowboyny]

I'm a step further and not focused on the disparity of the gap but on which would have the biggest/impact........that's Tmac over Jeanty IMO. Reason
* Not only are you getting a day-one starter but a starter you can certainly feel good about a 2nd contract
* Lions and Eagles have shown how TWO elite WRs can open your running game, so a 2nd tier guy will be fine IMO.
* Lamb contract has an out 2027 .....Tmac can be his replacement if needy.

BTW...I agree on Birden size but from everything I'm reading, he's a master technician at the position with a very high IQ ( route runner and YAC ) Think Amari Cooper and Deebo in one........

Been saying we need another alpha receiver, fine with taking either receiver if they fell

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Been saying we need another alpha receiver, fine with taking either receiver if they fell

Who is your leading candidate to replace MM........
Who you want .......
Who you think JJ will hire

 

[gtb1943]

Tell us who you would pick if you think you could do better.

I MOCK ALL MOCKS

as I have said before

pure stupidity says it all about those picks

 

[Cowboyny]

Who is your leading candidate to replace MM........
Who you want .......
Who you think JJ will hire

Still want BB or someone from his coaching tree, feel like Jerry is going to promote Zimmer to HC as I thought he was his #1 target in their last search but Vikings said no

 

[rambo2]

I MOCK ALL MOCKS

as I have said before

pure stupidity says it all about those picks

What does Lamb and Parsons tell you? How about Overshown at 90?

 

[Hardline]

The biggest question is do you want a really good starter on 1 contract or another who has a longer shelf life? No doubt Jeanty is a stud and would instantly be a star in this league, question is how long can he do it for? Some buck the trend, but most don’t

If we get a superstar RB on his rookie contract it will be worth it. You can reassess his performance then.