Have Jerry Jones And His Pride Cursed The Cowboys?

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You shouldn't be a on a sports message board, you should be on a "I'm concerned with what other people are doing" message board.
Kinda like how you’re concerned about other people like you just did with me? :lmao:
 

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Good try but miserable people like this yahoo thrive on being miserable. They come here because there are other miserable people that give them likes.
A strange way of self destruction. What a way to live.
 

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PLEASE KEEP THE DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC IN THE HEADLINE.
Someone points out one of your meaningless posters garbage, and you result to this in a flash, does he work for you? Some piece of information your not willing to share. It's ok, your board your rules, just don't think this is not noticeable.
 

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Jimmy Johnson was on a lot of GM's lists when Booger hired him.
Amazing we have Cowboy fans who will bash Jimmy over Jethro.

Not any of the hundreds to thousands of Cowboy fans I know personally but there are some here on an anonymous fan forum.

What does that say about this site?
 

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Chances for Jimmy as an indicator as to projected ability as a Head Coach...is similar to projecting a players outcome by the number of interviews given him in college as well.

The distinction comes with success at the professional level. Jimmy was a success at the top level, but only with Jerry for what ever reason then or later that Jimmy chose. He was only great with the help of Jerry.
There is no other successful body of work to compare with. Jerry is relevant for a successful Jimmy and at no point was Jimmy walking on water.
 

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I just can’t imagine any Cowboy fan bashing Jimmy and taking our owners side.

I’ve never met any fans that do but this forum has some?
 

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Basically this thread is about trolling Cowboy fans who hold our owner responsible for the lack of more success this era.
 

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I'm surprised McClay has stuck around as long as he has. He must figure his time is coming. Hope that's the case and that his time will in fact come.
 

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I'm surprised McClay has stuck around as long as he has. He must figure his time is coming. Hope that's the case and that his time will in fact come.
Actually he can make as much money as a GM without the pressure and accountability that comes with that position.

What an easy gig he has. Fans give him credit for the good picks and ownership gets blame for poor results .
 

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Someone step on up and now explain how the new GM for Minnesota is going to do...and instead of blaming Jerry for everything, prove your real observation metal.
 

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No. JJ and his wallet has though. The team is a business for him and his top priority is probably making money.
 

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No. JJ and his wallet has though. The team is a business for him and his top priority is probably making money.
You simply don't know the man or his real man. Jerry was very serious is stepping up and replacing the original owner, Murchison.
 

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It is hard arguing about a curse, which is superstitious. If it were provable, I would have stolen and set Rowdy's costume on fire decades ago.

What can be discussed has been Jones' long standing, dogmatic refusal to hire qualified football managers since Jimmy Johnson's departure. As the franchise owner, Jones holds absolute power over personnel decisions. He has always had the opportunity to hire qualified individuals with a different managerial perspective. Having absolute power means Jones could have fired any general manager hire after several seasons. After one season. After several games. Heck. At any time, Jones could have held a press conference announcing a new general manager during the morning and fired the new GM that same evening. He is an NFL owner. His control is unquestionable.

He is a living contradiction. The same business individual, who capitalized magnificently off the field and enriched the entire league, never implemented the same sound business reasoning for overseeing football operations after underperforming as GM soundly within five years after Super Bowl XXX. That is what logical minded business people do. They move from an underperforming manager to someone they believe can deliver better results. It is what he said should have happened to himself, although his public confession was another lie.

Other GM hires could have failed. They could have underperformed even worst than Jones did at times. No one will ever know because Jones willfully killed those possible negative outcomes as much as he snuffed possible successful outcomes. His near 30-year inflexibility speaks directly to the mentality of a person, who has been (and continues to be) perfectly okay with sacrificing possible championship success for the sole benefit of personal satisfaction.
 

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It is hard arguing about a curse, which is superstitious. If it were provable, I would have stolen and set Rowdy's costume on fire decades ago.

What can be discussed has been Jones' long standing, dogmatic refusal to hire qualified football managers since Jimmy Johnson's departure. As the franchise owner, Jones holds absolute power over personnel decisions. He has always had the opportunity to hire qualified individuals with a different managerial perspective. Having absolute power means Jones could have fired any general manager hire after several seasons. After one season. After several games. Heck. At any time, Jones could have held a press conference announcing a new general manager during the morning and fired the new GM that same evening. He is an NFL owner. His control is unquestionable.

He is a living contradiction. The same business individual, who capitalized magnificently off the field and enriched the entire league, never implemented the same sound business reasoning for overseeing football operations after underperforming as GM soundly within five years after Super Bowl XXX. That is what logical minded business people do. They move from an underperforming manager to someone they believe can deliver better results. It is what he said should have happened to himself, although his public confession was another lie.

Other GM hires could have failed. They could have underperformed even worst than Jones did at times. No one will ever know because Jones willfully killed those possible negative outcomes as much as he snuffed possible successful outcomes. His near 30-year inflexibility speaks directly to the mentality of a person, who has been (and continues to be) perfectly okay with sacrificing possible championship success for the sole benefit of personal satisfaction.
How can a Head Coach fail when he actually is given full powers of team directions from day one with Jimmy Johnson, on to today...and doesn't man up and take the gambles himself for real. McCarthy today again has full power, actually to this point at least, seems able to wild the power fully, even with a 'Jerry' in house.
 

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If Andy Reid said he wanted to be the head coach at dallas...and Bill bellicheat said he wanted to be his DCoord...and John Harbaugh said he'd be the Special Teams Coach...and Ozzy Newsome said he'd be the GM...and Bill Walsh came back to life and said he'd be OffCoord..... and they ALL said they'd work for FREE

And all they ask is that they 100% run the team and the draft

Would Jerry say YES? Or would he say "No thanks guys....me and Fredo got it covered"?
 

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If Andy Reid said he wanted to be the head coach at dallas...and Bill bellicheat said he wanted to be his DCoord...and John Harbaugh said he'd be the Special Teams Coach...and Ozzy Newsome said he'd be the GM...and Bill Walsh came back to life and said he'd be OffCoord..... and they ALL said they'd work for FREE

And all they ask is that they 100% run the team and the draft

Would Jerry say YES? Or would he say "No thanks guys....me and Fredo got it covered"?
*(chuckling to self, loudly) Really want that one answered? ;)
 

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*(chuckling to self, loudly) Really want that one answered? ;)
Yeah. You think he'd turn down a 10 year run to end his life...with Guaranteed couple of superbowls? Just because of pride? Knowing he's just suffered thru nearly 30 years of lesson-learning failure?
 
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