Henson-Its time to go

[DeaconMoss]

Also you may have 25000 posts but I am not sure you watch much football or understand the game, if you believe that we are good to go with our backup situation.

Spend more time watching the game and less on the board. IMO

 

[ravidubey]

Just watch Henson's plays with no agenda and it's easy to see him gaining confidence and making plays happen.

Citing a player's stats after he suffers an MCL injury tells me the writer has an agenda. Sheesh the first line of the first paragraph can tell you that.

The only story in NFL Europe right now is Drew Henson, so reality or not some journalists are going to make a story where there is currently none because he's hurt.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Henson is a great storyline I am not denying that, I am just doubting his ability to help this football team if we have to go to a backup.

 

[Hostile]

Also you may have 25000 posts but I am not sure you watch much football or understand the game, if you believe that we are good to go with our backup situation.

Spend more time watching the game and less on the board. IMO

LOL

I played and coached football on the NCCAA Division I level. So please don't worry about whether I understand the game or not.

My post count means I like discussions, nothing more.

 

[Doomsday101]

Drew Henson has come to NFL Europe to get more game experience after spending the past two seasons as the backup quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. Henson shared time with Tom Brady as a starter at Michigan, before turning his hand to baseball, playing with the New York Yankees. Now with the Rhein Fire, Henson has written a season-long diary for NFLEurope.com, keeping fans up to date with what happens on and off the field in NFL Europe. This might be Henson’s final diary, with the Fire holding only an outside chance of making it to World Bowl.

As this might be the last column I write to you from Düsseldorf, I’m going to run down a list of my favorite things and people about this whole experience. I’m also going to touch on the future games, but I’ll start off with my memories.

The coach that I’ll remember the most is Steve Logan. That’s who I spend the most time with. I’ve been running his offense that he’s been teaching for years. I’ve also learned a lot from head coach Jim Tomsula. From speaking with him to seeing the way that he approaches the players. He really cares about getting to know guys and building relationships with them. He’s been great to my family and everyone that has come through here. We don’t know anybody else that’s here, so they’ve made it real comfortable when we had family here.

NFL Europe has been great. If someone else wanted to come to NFL Europe and I had to pitch it to them. I would tell them at if you go for the right reasons with the right mindset then it’ll be great for you. It can give you what you need to play games if you’re willing to have the right mindset.

The first thing that I’m going to do when I get home is lay down in my bed. After that I’m going to go get some Mexican food. Dallas has great Mexican food. You don’t get any better Mexican food than there. There is a whole list of restaurants that I have to go to.

The funniest teammate this year has to be Kendrick Starling. Not that he’s ever told a funny joke, but he’s definitely the most entertaining person that I’ve ever seen.

I have to say that it was a lot of things that were unexpected, but in a good way. The things that I thought would be issues really haven’t been. A few of the things that I thought would be an issue is communication, transportation and actually getting away from football. I didn’t know if we would have transportation or ways to even get away from football if we wanted to. But that turned out to be real easy. One thing that I didn’t expect was the fact that it went by so quickly. The past weeks have been a grind, but in total this experience has happened very quickly. When I look back at Tampa Bay although it was only a couple of months ago a lot of things have happen since then.

If I had an incident that I would look back on and smile I would have to say being able to make plays from behind. All the times that our offensive unit had to come from behind to win would be the best moments. That’s probably the biggest thing that I can carry over when I go back to the States. Getting back in the flow of being on the field was a great thing for me, because it won’t be long until training camp starts. So by the time I get rested we’ll be going again. I think that all the things I worked on here will be things that I can put to use when I get back to Dallas.

Lastly my hope for this upcoming game against Cologne is to win. We want to win this game for the outside chance that we can get in the World Bowl. This will also be a very big game for the two cities. We beat them the first time and we have the Rhein Cup. Although most of us would like to be back in Dusseldorf to play one another game we realize that it means a lot to the city and organization to finish up on a winning note. I’ve enjoyed sharing my Eurotrip with you guys and I hope you all enjoy the game.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Just watch Henson's plays with no agenda and it's easy to see him gaining confidence and making plays happen.

Citing a player's stats after he suffers an MCL injury tells me the writer has an agenda. Sheesh the first line of the first paragraph can tell you that.

The only story in NFL Europe right now is Drew Henson, so reality or not some journalists are going to make a story where there is currently none because he's hurt.

Henson's production was dropping before the knee injury, so that really isn't a valid point. I'm sure it was a combination of things, but stats don't lie.

Does anyone have a link to a story that says Romo didn't want to go to NFLE? I've searched for one this morning, but haven't found it. Could be stuff made up by Anti-Romo people.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Just watch Henson's plays with no agenda and it's easy to see him gaining confidence and making plays happen.

Citing a player's stats after he suffers an MCL injury tells me the writer has an agenda. Sheesh the first line of the first paragraph can tell you that.

Stats are important and give you a good idea of what's going on, but QB stats often leave out important factors. Rhein has one of the worst WR corps by NFL Europe standards when they were healthy. Early on their "top WR" Zuriel Smith went down with an injury and with other injuries to the WR's, they wound up having Chris Samp (who is naturally an H-Back) and other WR's that weren't even originally drafted by any NFLE team filling out their WR corp.

Like I stated in another post, it would be the NFL equivalent of Henson having a WR corp of Witten, Terrence Copper and Crayton when they were healthy. Then Crayton and Copper get injured and the WR corp consists of Witten (lineing up out wide like a WR), Crowder, and Jamaica Rector. Simply put, their WR's don't get open, don't make good attempts in jump ball situation, and are good for 3-6 drops per game.

Not to mention his O-Line wasn't exactly great shakes either.

I'm not ready to proclaim that Henson is going to be a quality NFL starter. But, from the games I've watched I'm pretty happy with what I've seen. I can see why scouts like him so much and he continually looks like the best player on the field.

When Henson was healthy, there were a lot of people that thought Timmy Chang could do better since he supposedly had the "intagibles" that come along with being the all time NCAA passing yards record holder. But when Chang got to play the entire game for the first time, Rhein managed only 3 points on offense and only 1 first down conversion. A drastic difference from what the offense was able to accomplish with Henson at the helm.


Rich.......

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Henson's production was dropping before the knee injury, so that really isn't a valid point. I'm sure it was a combination of things, but stats don't lie.

Here's a look at Henson's stats from weeks 2-4 vs. weeks 5-7. I didn't count week 1 since he only threw the ball 11 times and I didn't count week 8 since he hurt his knee early in that game.

WEEKS 2-4

61.3% Completion
176 yards per game
7.04 yards per attempt
4 TD's
1 TD per 18.75 passing attempts
1 INT
1 INT per 75 passing attempts
94.8 QB Rating

WEEKS 5-7
56% completion
189 yards per game
6.75 yards per attempt
5 TD's
1 TD per 16.8 passing attempts
1 INT per 42 passing attempts
86.8 QB rating

In reality, his production dipped, but he was still very effective. It should also be noted that in week 4 his WR's started to get injured, he was facing better defenses, and his O-Line started to fold.

Rich.......

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Here's a look at Henson's stats from weeks 2-4 vs. weeks 5-7. I didn't count week 1 since he only threw the ball 11 times and I didn't count week 8 since he hurt his knee early in that game.

Why not count week 1. If you are going to look at pre-injury snaps, wouldn't that count, too? It doesn't matter how many times he through the ball.

Also, in Week 8, didn't all of his throws come before he hurt his knee? I might be wrong, but I thought I read he connected on his first 3 and then missed his last 10 before he was injured.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Here's a look at Henson's stats from weeks 2-4 vs. weeks 5-7. I didn't count week 1 since he only threw the ball 11 times and I didn't count week 8 since he hurt his knee early in that game.

Why not count week 1. If you are going to look at pre-injury snaps, wouldn't that count, too? It doesn't matter how many times he through the ball.

Also, in Week 8, didn't all of his throws come before he hurt his knee? I might be wrong, but I thought I read he connected on his first 3 and then missed his last 10 before he was injured.

Well, maybe you should have watched the game then. He completed 3-3 before he was injured in first half. In 3rd quarter is when he missed like 8 passes or so, when he was visibly limping on sidelines.

 

[vicjagger]

...Also, in Week 8, didn't all of his throws come before he hurt his knee? I might be wrong, but I thought I read he connected on his first 3 and then missed his last 10 before he was injured.

My understanding is that he was 3 for 3, then injured his knee (still 1st qtr.), but continued to play, missimg 10 straight before he was replaced in the fouth qtr.

 

[blindzebra]

Trolls are like brick walls.

Facts are like super balls.

You can throw facts at them all day long, but they never stick, they just bounce right off.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Why not count week 1. If you are going to look at pre-injury snaps, wouldn't that count, too? It doesn't matter how many times he through the ball.

If you want to, fine. You're just proving my point since he went 5-11 and threw for minimal yardage. Thus his stats for the first few weeks would go down and be closer to the stats he put up in weeks 5-7. Thus making your notion that his play declined before the injury a bit of a fallacy.

Also, in Week 8, didn't all of his throws come before he hurt his knee? I might be wrong, but I thought I read he connected on his first 3 and then missed his last 10 before he was injured.

He went 3 for 3 and was injured at the end of the first quarter (IIRC).


Rich........

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Here's a look at Henson's stats from weeks 2-4 vs. weeks 5-7. I didn't count week 1 since he only threw the ball 11 times and I didn't count week 8 since he hurt his knee early in that game.

Well, maybe you should have watched the game then. He completed 3-3 before he was injured in first half. In 3rd quarter is when he missed like 8 passes or so, when he was visibly limping on sidelines.

Well maybe I would have it I had a station that plays the game. Anyway, I think most people on this board will make any excuse for Henson's play, good or bad. There are others who want to bash him. I've done my fair share, but this Henson talk is really getting to be prehistoric.

Let me ask the Henson fan club this. If he does come back and competes in TC and Romo is still the 2nd QB, what will the excuse be? He's tired because of all the traveling while in Germany? He's still recovering from his knee injury? Jet lag? Or will the Hensonites admit that Romo is the better QB?

Just a question since everyone likes to look to the future.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well maybe I would have it I had a station that plays the game. Anyway, I think most people on this board will make any excuse for Henson's play, good or bad. There are others who want to bash him. I've done my fair share, but this Henson talk is really getting to be prehistoric.

Let me ask the Henson fan club this. If he does come back and competes in TC and Romo is still the 2nd QB, what will the excuse be? He's tired because of all the traveling while in Germany? He's still recovering from his knee injury? Jet lag? Or will the Hensonites admit that Romo is the better QB?

Just a question since everyone likes to look to the future.

No excuse it means Romo had the better training camp and earned the #2 spot however what are the excuses going to be if Henson wins the backup job?

 

[gbrittain]

Well maybe I would have it I had a station that plays the game. Anyway, I think most people on this board will make any excuse for Henson's play, good or bad. There are others who want to bash him. I've done my fair share, but this Henson talk is really getting to be prehistoric.

Let me ask the Henson fan club this. If he does come back and competes in TC and Romo is still the 2nd QB, what will the excuse be? He's tired because of all the traveling while in Germany? He's still recovering from his knee injury? Jet lag? Or will the Hensonites admit that Romo is the better QB?

Just a question since everyone likes to look to the future.

What if??? What if Romo wins the back up job, Bledsoe goes down and Romo gets into real action and sucks big time. Romo gets pulled and Henson does an admirable job. What then?

What if Romo and Henson both suck? What if Romo and Henson both end up being solid starter QBs? Romo has never ever not once in three years thrown an NFL pass. Some coaches and some fans might "think" Romo is better, but at this point it is just an opinion. Of course I value the opinion of NFL coaches more than fans...

What if NFL coaches and scouts thought Chad Pennington, Giovanni Carmazzi, Chris Redman, Tee Martin, Marc Bulger, and Spergon Wynn were better prospects than Tom Brady? Oops never mind.

Until either Romo or Henson or both see considerable action in real NFL games it is all just speculation. See what speculating Giovanni Carmazzi was a better Pro QB prospect than Tom Brady got the 49ers...nothing.

 

[iceberg]

Well maybe I would have it I had a station that plays the game. Anyway, I think most people on this board will make any excuse for Henson's play, good or bad. There are others who want to bash him. I've done my fair share, but this Henson talk is really getting to be prehistoric.

Let me ask the Henson fan club this. If he does come back and competes in TC and Romo is still the 2nd QB, what will the excuse be? He's tired because of all the traveling while in Germany? He's still recovering from his knee injury? Jet lag? Or will the Hensonites admit that Romo is the better QB?

Just a question since everyone likes to look to the future.

why does there have to be an "excuse" vs. just the way it is? if romo is #2 for a reason, fine. but if henson is kept on the roster at #3, isn't that a validation of his work and progress?

i'm sorry you're tired of henson talk, but there must be a reason he's being talked about *so much* and i doubt it's just a bunch of bored people wanting to pump up his value.

henson is a long term project in a short term society, hence we argue.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Just a question since everyone likes to look to the future.

Most people are neither Hensonites or Romites. Other than obviously some minority with Agendas. Its simple, Henson has all the tools to be Franchise type player at QB. Romo, has limited ability. So even if he became the starter, there will be some limitations he has to overcome.

So anyone who wishes for a QB that is both Mobile, has rocket arm, and stature, are hoping that Henson succeeds, so that we have QB that has the physical ablities to take Cowboys to big one. And Henson has shown in NFL Europe, for those who watched him closely, that ability. Not everything was perfect, but he did show he can do it when everythign is falling around him too, if not all the time, sometimes at least.

Romo on other hand, has shown nothing of that sort in his limited playing time. He seems to maybe be a steady QB at best, but also can make boneheaded mistakes ( last year, against Seattle, in pre-season, his careless throw when blitzed as example). On the other hand, he was the better QB in pre-season overall last year. Frankly, seemed like at times, Henson couldn't hit side of barn 10 yards away. But in NFLE other than his first game and last game when he was injured, he was very accurate.

Hence optimism towards Henson right now. Nothing more. It might still be proven this TC that Romo is the guy or it might not. Besides being 2nd string doesn't necessarily mean Henson/Romo will be the guys who will start long term if there is major injury to Bledsoe. Last year Eagles started their "3rd" stringer when McNabb went down for the season, first.

 

[DeaconMoss]

So are you prepared to see Henson take the field with the playoffs on the line or do you want a vet backup?

 

[Doomsday101]

So are you prepared to see Henson take the field with the playoffs on the line or do you want a vet backup?

Has Dallas went out and picked up a vet backup? NO they have not they have not even hinted at the ideal that they are going to get a vet backup. They did not even look for a QB in the draft. The QB's we have in place will be on this team for at least this upcoming season after than Jerry did mention the possibilty of looking to the draft next season.