Here's to you, Drew Henson.

Tio said:
Wow banned, you must really love romo or hate henson if that is what you took away from this game.

Really, I want Henson to go out there and kick azz - he's a Cowboy.

And I'm not sure what you're trying to say ... if you watched the game, Romo really out played both QB's ...

You have to consider that Henson was playing against 3rd stringers ... but he looked pretty good - better than I thought.

But he still has A LOT of work ... Henson made a couple of good throws though ... and like I've said before, my problem with Henson isn't that he can't make some plays and doesn't have ability ... it's his ability to manage a game for 4 quarters and execute it mentally. That's what's always been my concern with Henson, because he really does have very little experience in comparison with most QB's.

But if Romo can go out there and play like I think he can, I'll LOVE Drew Henson as a #3 QB ... I just don't want him near my precious in 2005, (despite our flopping around out there like dead fish in last night's game, I still think we can make some noise in the playoffs this year.) And Henson isn't ready for the long-term for an entire season or even 4 quarters of football. He's just not.

Romo did well managing the game ... was kept on a conservative line of play calls, but executed very well ... and was very cool under pressure ... did you see him smiling after the game and cutting it up; just having fun? He looked like Brett Farve in that aspect. I'm telling you this Romo guy is a baller and he's got the game experience.

I have had a concern with him though, and that's his 'gunslinger' style as Parcells calls it. But the more I think about it the more I realize that you want a guy like that ... and it's up to the coach to set a tone to how he plays and teach the discipline it takes to hold back a little, sometimes, when it's in the best interest of the game ...

I think Romo is ready for that, because of his experience in college, coupled with sticking with football and playing his 'role' on this team for Bill Parcells ... don't forget Romo has set a few records too.

And here's where you'll catch me rooting for someone (which is what you were trying to do) ... I'm pulling for Romo because he's from a small school ... and people have doubted him from the beginning - wrote him off and made Henson "the man" ... I've doubted him a little, but the more I think about it the more I like Romo ... I see an upside with him and there is no doubt in my mind that Parcells is NOT going to bring anyone else in as a 4th QB ...

I still lay my money on Romo ... and at this point I've got more confidence than I ever thought I would, because I see he has the potential to be a good game manager and sometimes a team needs a QB to "let loose" ... Romo strikes me as the kind of guy that thrives on "letting loose" ... He played at a small school ... did well there ... and has IMO has probably made the developmental transition quite smoothly ...

What did you take out of the game?
 
Tio said:
LA to rt is a disaster waiting to happen.


You could not have watched that game last night and come to that conclusion.

The play action pass is DOA if we don't fix RT ...
 
Banned_n_austin said:
You could not have watched that game last night and come to that conclusion.

The play action pass is DOA if we don't fix RT ...


I don't think he was talking about RT being a problem if LA goes over there. He was saying that LG would then become a big issue with Peterman manning that spot.

Teams like to pressure Bledsoe up the middle because he does better with outside pressure than he does that up the gut.

With a soft spot at LG, teams will be overloading that area and blitzing right up the gut... a sure killer with Bledsoe under center.
 
AsthmaField said:
I don't think he was talking about RT being a problem if LA goes over there. He was saying that LG would then become a big issue with Peterman manning that spot.

Teams like to pressure Bledsoe up the middle because he does better with outside pressure than he does that up the gut.

With a soft spot at LG, teams will be overloading that area and blitzing right up the gut... a sure killer with Bledsoe under center.


It think it depends on the overall aspect of the line ... you want to make it as strong as you can, throughout. If that means you have to have guys play at a position that isn't suited to them best, but it makes the line better overall, then I think you have to do that ... especially with the way we're going to be dependent on the play action pass ...
 
PA pass is moot point if we can't run the ball. With Flo, LA, AJ at least we were able to run left last year. I'd rather over up the RT issue with Campbell/Rogers/Petiti than move LA. I think we create 2 weaknesses by moving LA. Weak LG and RT.
 
Rush 2112 said:
PA pass is moot point if we can't run the ball. With Flo, LA, AJ at least we were able to run left last year. I'd rather over up the RT issue with Campbell/Rogers/Petiti than move LA. I think we create 2 weaknesses by moving LA. Weak LG and RT.

Well, Petitty was getting OWNED last night ...Rogers was crying about something and no way in hell can Campbell hold that position down ...

So what does that leave you with?

Vollers?

We ran to the left last year because Larry Allen was over there ... this just means we'll have to run right a little more, which might be a good thing.
 
big dog cowboy said:
A combo of Vollers/Petitti would be better than putting LA at RT.

Pettiti was getting outright owned out there ... I don't recall Vollers being spectacular either ...

I think Peterman can be solid, but he's just a year behind because of last years injury, but I'd at least try it in a preseason game and see if it works with Larry at RT and Peterman at LG.

I'm leaning towards that way of thinking for the starting line up ...
 
And I'm not sure what you're trying to say ... if you watched the game, Romo really out played both QB's ...

You have to consider that Henson was playing against 3rd stringers ... but he looked pretty good - better than I thought.
All of romos offense came when witten was in the game going against 2nd stringers. But, I guess you didn't take that into account.
But he still has A LOT of work ... Henson made a couple of good throws though ... and like I've said before, my problem with Henson isn't that he can't make some plays and doesn't have ability ... it's his ability to manage a game for 4 quarters and execute it mentally. That's what's always been my concern with Henson, because he really does have very little experience in comparison with most QB's.
ROmo has even less experiance. And did that issue even show itself this preseason game? Nope.

But if Romo can go out there and play like I think he can, I'll LOVE Drew Henson as a #3 QB ... I just don't want him near my precious in 2005, (despite our flopping around out there like dead fish in last night's game, I still think we can make some noise in the playoffs this year.) And Henson isn't ready for the long-term for an entire season or even 4 quarters of football. He's just not.
But romo is :rolleyes:
Romo did well managing the game ... was kept on a conservative line of play calls, but executed very well ... and was very cool under pressure ... did you see him smiling after the game and cutting it up; just having fun? He looked like Brett Farve in that aspect. I'm telling you this Romo guy is a baller and he's got the game experience.
So...you think romo is a real gamer because he was smiling after the game...ok...
I have had a concern with him though, and that's his 'gunslinger' style as Parcells calls it. But the more I think about it the more I realize that you want a guy like that ... and it's up to the coach to set a tone to how he plays and teach the discipline it takes to hold back a little, sometimes, when it's in the best interest of the game ...
He has a gun slinger mentality without the gun. The guy has very little velocity on his throws.



And here's where you'll catch me rooting for someone (which is what you were trying to do) ... I'm pulling for Romo because he's from a small school ... and people have doubted him from the beginning - wrote him off and made Henson "the man" ... I've doubted him a little, but the more I think about it the more I like Romo ... I see an upside with him and there is no doubt in my mind that Parcells is NOT going to bring anyone else in as a 4th QB ...
Well...I simply root for henson because of the much higher reward it would bring if he reaches his potential rather than romo.


what did you take out of the game?
I took henson leading us three times in fg position despite an inferior team around him and horrible oline play. I saw the velocity henson had on his out routes and I saw the smart decisions to throw it away when nothing was there which is very rare in any qb, let alone a 2nd year one. I also saw him calm and collected after the sack that took us out of fg range as he snapped the ball and threw the 10 yard pass to copper (?)

I did not see the same drew henson as you did...
 
Banned_n_austin said:
The time has come. And the curtain is about to rise. The challenge you face is like no other. Like the Yankees, Dallas too, is a great franchise that takes great pride in winning.

The history and the accomplishments of this team is something that we fans take a lot of pride in. To say the least, the word "scrutiny" is an understatement - always has been, so don't take it personal.

But I'm one of the ones who has dished it out. I'm the guy that drove by you and never acknowledged your Will Work For Food sign ... followed by the very next day where you were at the same corner and I shouted, "BUM"!

I never gave you a chance. My team is my team and I don't like handouts.

Don't take this personal, but it seems you've gotten quite a few of those in your silver spoon-like life. You've abandoned almost everything you touch ... you had a chance to gain experience playing football. Instead, you left early squandering that opportunity to play baseball. Then you left ... to play football ...

But if it was football you wanted that extra year in college wouldn't have been a bad idea now, would it?

But I digress ...

Let sleeping dogs lie, right?

You're a Dallas Cowboy now ... and a Yankee no more. Even though it feels awkward, I've got to welcome you, root for you, cheer for you ... and hopefully praise you if you do well. I'm not above that. Though my discontent about things associated with you have made me nauseous, I'm willing to look past that if you're able to help the team.

And there's no better time to show that than right now. Right here, good buddy. It's the preseason. It's the time to show what stuff you're made of. I hope you knock 'em dead tonite!

Show me some pedigree!

Go Cowboys!

And here's to you, Drew Henson.

:beer2:
Holy Cow. Did I slip into the Twilight Zone?
 
Tio said:
All of romos offense came when witten was in the game going against 2nd stringers. But, I guess you didn't take that into account.
ROmo has even less experiance. And did that issue even show itself this preseason game? Nope.

It was a preseason game ... I took into account that Romo would have that weapon if he were starting ...

I didn't say Drew Henson looked awful ... he looked OK ... but he's got a lot of work ...

But romo is :rolleyes:
So...you think romo is a real gamer because he was smiling after the game...ok...
He has a gun slinger mentality without the gun. The guy has very little velocity on his throws.

This is the biggest misconception about Romo ... he has a hammer for an arm ... someone had some statistics ... I'll try to find them for you ... but Romo can chunk the freakin' ball ... those throws to the TE just had touch on them ... and they weren't long passes ..

I'm not annointing Romo anything though ... he still has to earn it ... looks like he's ahead so far though ...



Well...I simply root for henson because of the much higher reward it would bring if he reaches his potential rather than romo.

You think Romo can't play because he's from a small school ...

Did you say that when we drafted Ware?

:huh:

mmm hmmm ...


I took henson leading us three times in fg position despite an inferior team around him and horrible oline play. I saw the velocity henson had on his out routes and I saw the smart decisions to throw it away when nothing was there which is very rare in any qb, let alone a 2nd year one. I also saw him calm and collected after the sack that took us out of fg range as he snapped the ball and threw the 10 yard pass to copper (?)

I did not see the same drew henson as you did....

He made a few good throws ... I give him that ... but I still don't think the guy can handle the mental aspect of a 4 quarter football game ... or a season ...

He still looks rusty and elementary in his reads ...

Romo was quicker ...

And the line did play a little better for Romo? :confused:

He was forced in to a 3rd and 50 - something like that? You call that playing good for Romo. They could have set a record with the penalties they were committing.

Give me a break there.

But I will say that the line didn't play well for any of the QBs ... including Henson ... they all got screwed ... and that's a bigger concern to me ...

We'll see who's name the #2 ... I'm confident Parcells has the ability get this right ...
 
Banned_n_austin said:
I've have a different outlook altogether ... I'm not sold on Drew Blesoe anymore. All that has been being said about him is true. He holds on to the ball to long and will take a lot of sacks. I do give him that he holds on to the ball better than Vinny, but he still looked A LOT like Vinny.

It's not such a stupid question to me anymore ... can one of these young guys do it? And would that be a smart move?

I know I saw some mobility in Romo moving around in the pocket and he made some good throws ... and a not so good one. But he just looked like a better QB in the 10 plays that he threw the ball ...

Bledsoe and Henson didn't really separate from each other. They both played about the same. Henson didn't look to make his reads very well and Bledsoe held on to the ball too long to make his ... but in their defense, the line played better for Romo than it did for Henson and Bledsoe ...

We're going to have to move Larry Allen to right tackle - I can almost gaurantee that ...

Henson's reads were fine when he wasn't being sacked or having to throw it away because of coverage. Would you rather him take a sack or force a pass and get a pick? Hmm...maybe you didn't really watch the game.:rolleyes:
 
Z-Man said:
Henson's reads were fine when he wasn't being sacked or having to throw it away because of coverage. Would you rather him take a sack or force a pass and get a pick? Hmm...maybe you didn't really watch the game.:rolleyes:


I said he made some good throws ...

He did OK ... but nothing spectacular ... I'm fine with him being on our roster at #3 ... having seen him a little more I'm starting to relax ...

Spare me the "I didn't watch the game" line ... I watch every game, genius.
 
Hostile said:
No, I haven't. Should I aovid it like the plague?

I'd recommend reading it ... it'd be a shame to be unaware of the reasons you lost a bet about the #2 spot ... :D

Henson did ok ... but Romo outplayed him ...

The line is a bigger concern to me than either though ... it looked awful ...
 

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