Here's to you, Drew Henson.

[Tio]

It was a preseason game ... I took into account that Romo would have that weapon if he were starting ...

I didn't say Drew Henson looked awful ... he looked OK ... but he's got a lot of work ...

Romo had a under 60 qb rating when witten left the game. Id say romo has just as much work ahead of him.

This is the biggest misconception about Romo ... he has a hammer for an arm ... someone had some statistics ... I'll try to find them for you ... but Romo can chunk the freakin' ball ... those throws to the TE just had touch on them ... and they weren't long passes ..

I don't care about stats. Look at the game. There was no zip, and apparently, he didn't have any zip during warm ups either. Maybe when he winds up he can throw a pretty fast ball, but I haven't seen it.

I'm not annointing Romo anything though ... he still has to earn it ... looks like he's ahead so far though ...

And why do you come to that conclusion? Again, under 60 qb rating without witten.

You think Romo can't play because he's from a small school ...

Did you say that when we drafted Ware?

Because we scouted ware for months and deemed him worth a top 15 pick. We chose zuriel smith over tony romo. BTW, I think romo can play. I think he did pretty good. I also think henson did pretty good. I just think Henson's ceiling is higher.

He made a few good throws ... I give him that ... but I still don't think the guy can handle the mental aspect of a 4 quarter football game ... or a season ...

He still looks rusty and elementary in his reads ...

Why do you say that? He completed most of his passes that werent throw aways.

Romo was quicker ...

This, I'll give you. He found witten pretty quick after his 1st reciever. However, I didn't see it again once witten left...did you?

And the line did play a little better for Romo?

He was forced in to a 3rd and 50 - something like that? You call that playing good for Romo. They could have set a record with the penalties they were committing.

Give me a break there.

In terms of pass protection, romo clearly had an advantage. He didn't get sacked while he was still dropping back. The penaltys were horrible, but they didn't hurt romo as much as the third team ol hurt henson.

 

[Hostile]

I'd recommend reading it ... it'd be a shame to be unaware of the reasons you lost a bet about the #2 spot ...

Henson did ok ... but Romo outplayed him ...

The line is a bigger concern to me than either though ... it looked awful ...

I haven't lost any bet, and I don't agree he outplayed him. Not by a long shot.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Henson easily outplayed Bledsoe, though it was against 3rd stringers

Romo, however, looked much better than Henson, at least to me. Henson was impressive at times, but had several passes that just came out of his hand wrong and refused to take any risks when throwing. He attempted ONE pass down the middle of the field and it was overthrown.

 

[Hostile]

Henson easily outplayed Bledsoe, though it was against 3rd stringers

Romo, however, looked much better than Henson, at least to me. Henson was impressive at times, but had several passes that just came out of his hand wrong and refused to take any risks when throwing. He attempted ONE pass down the middle of the field and it was overthrown.

No way, no shape, no how.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Romo had a under 60 qb rating when witten left the game. Id say romo has just as much work ahead of him.

:laugh2:

~sniff sniff~

~singing a song~

I smell someone spinning, spinning, spinning to suit an agenda, agenda, agenda ...

What was his QB rating overall? I don't really know ... and I never mentioned it ... but I don't see why you'd worry about it when he was 8 for 10 anyways ..

I don't care about stats. Look at the game. There was no zip, and apparently, he didn't have any zip during warm ups either. Maybe when he winds up he can throw a pretty fast ball, but I haven't seen it.
And why do you come to that conclusion? Again, under 60 qb rating without witten.

You take Hos' assesment from the stands in a preseason game and run with it about "zip" .... Romo throws the football at 57 mph ... and that is a freakin' cannon no matter how you look at it ...

Velocity = distance

Distance = velocity

Romo having a weak arm is a 'flat out' myth.

Because we scouted ware for months and deemed him worth a top 15 pick. We chose zuriel smith over tony romo. BTW, I think romo can play. I think he did pretty good. I also think henson did pretty good. I just think Henson's ceiling is higher.

Henson needs to work on his reads and recognitions ... I thought he did pretty well though ... both young guys looked better than Bledsoe last night IMO.

Why do you say that? He completed most of his passes that werent throw aways.

I agree. So his numbers are a little bit skewed, if you want to look at it that way. He threw a ball or two away ... I'm not going to try to spin that like you have by unnecessarily trying to make Witten a factor ...

This, I'll give you. He found witten pretty quick after his 1st reciever. However, I didn't see it again once witten left...did you?

The things you don't see from the T.V. (or stands) is what play has been called ... but it just appeared that Romo knew what to do with the plays he was given. But I have limited perspective, because I don't know what play was called.

Henson "seemed" a little hesitant and "seemed" to be keying in on his 1st option - seemingly.

In terms of pass protection, romo clearly had an advantage. He didn't get sacked while he was still dropping back. The penaltys were horrible, but they didn't hurt romo as much as the third team ol hurt henson.

The Oline sucked for all 3 QB's ... I hated seeing that, man. I can't really say they played good for any one of them ... they were bad for everyone - horrible in fact. That was the biggest surprise to me - how bad the Oline played.

 

[The30YardSlant]

8-10, 71 yards, 96.2 rating against 2nd teamers

6-13, 64 yards, 61.1 rating against 3rd teamers

There is NO arguement that you can make for Henson having a better game than Romo, NONE.

 

[BigDFan5]

8-10, 71 yards, 96.2 rating against 2nd teamers

6-13, 64 yards, 61.1 rating against 3rd teamers

There is NO arguement that you can make for Henson having a better game than Romo, NONE.

Having Witten play against Cards 2nd team is a good argument.

Without Witten Romo had 3 complete passes for 21 yards and a 58 QB rating

 

[Hostile]

8-10, 71 yards, 96.2 rating against 2nd teamers

6-13, 64 yards, 61.1 rating against 3rd teamers

There is NO arguement that you can make for Henson having a better game than Romo, NONE.

I just keep seeing this and reminding myself that you believed in 30 yard slants.

Wow HH. You really need another education.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Having Witten play against Cards 2nd team is a good argument.

Without Witten Romo had 3 complete passes for 21 yards and a 58 QB rating

You CANNOT be serious

Without Michael Irvin, Troy Aiman is an average QB

Without Lynn Swann, Terry Bradshaw wouldnt even sniff the HOF

Without Jerry Rice, Young would have last a few years tops

You cant fault Romo for having a good TE, the Cardinals should have covered him better

 

[VirusX]

Henson didnt throw to a top5 tight end for most of his passes either so yes you can make an arguement. Henson played against 3rd stringers but he also player WITH 3rd stringers. Romo played with a better cast and a probowl TE to whom he threw most of his passes to for good gainers that were 3 yard dink and dunk passes.

 

[BigDFan5]

You CANNOT be serious

Without Michael Irvin, Troy Aiman is an average QB

Without Lynn Swann, Terry Bradshaw wouldnt even sniff the HOF

Without Jerry Rice, Young would have last a few years tops

You cant fault Romo for having a good TE, the Cardinals should have covered him better

So in your opinion having Witten a Pro Bowl TE in the game against the Cards second team wasn't helpful to Romos numbers?

Without Witten Romo complete 3 passes 21 yards and a 58 QB rating that can not be disputed it is fact

 

[The30YardSlant]

I just keep seeing this and reminding myself that you believed in 30 yard slants.

Wow HH. You really need another education.

Fine, remain in denial, but you claiming Henson had more "zip" on the ball doesnt mean anything....at all. He had 3 passes that just floated badly on him and 2 others he threw away with no pressure on him AT ALL. Romo looked far more comfortable and didnt have any poorly throw balls. His only "bad" throw was when he threw it a little too late to Crayton in the endzone, and even then Crayton could have caught it as it went off his fingers.

 

[The30YardSlant]

So in your opinion having Witten a Pro Bowl TE in the game against the Cards second team wasn't helpful to Romos numbers?

Without Witten Romo complete 3 passes 21 yards and a 58 QB rating that can not be disputed it is fact

Was it helpful? Yes

Was it Romo's fault Witten was open? No, you throw to the open WR

And here's something you fail to mention, with Witten in the game Romo was 5-6. Romo only threw 10 passes, Witten was in the game for over half his passes. It would be different if Romo went 3-10 without Witten, but he went 3-4. He just didnt throw much after Witten left.

 

[BigDFan5]

Was it helpful? Yes

Was it Romo's fault Witten was open? No, you throw to the open WR

And here's something you fail to mention, with Witten in the game Romo was 5-6. Romo only threw 10 passes, Witten was in the game for over half his passes. It would be different if Romo went 3-10 without Witten, but he went 3-4. He just didnt throw much after Witten left.

Of course a pro bowl TE was gonna be open against the cards 2nd saftey lol

he went 3-4 and had a 58 QB Rating

Are you trying to Say Henson couldn't have hit Witten against 2nd teamers?

 

[Hostile]

Fine, remain in denial, but you claiming Henson had more "zip" on the ball doesnt mean anything....at all. He had 3 passes that just floated badly on him and 2 others he threw away with no pressure on him AT ALL. Romo looked far more comfortable and didnt have any poorly throw balls. His only "bad" throw was when he threw it a little too late to Crayton in the endzone, and even then Crayton could have caught it as it went off his fingers.

Denial?

That's funny Cleopatra.

"Zip means nothing." Tell that to NFL scouts. I ain't buying it.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Having Witten play against Cards 2nd team is a good argument.

Without Witten Romo had 3 complete passes for 21 yards and a 58 QB rating

Oh look! It's the Henson people doing a drive by Henson spin - on a tricycle!

Is that Hos driving with BZ in the back?

(it's just a joke fellas)

 

[Jimz31]

Give it up guys....both have their faults and both have their negatives.

If arm strength were the end-all....Jeff George would still be in the NFL.

Would I rather have a guy with a strong arm? Sure. But I would rather have a guy that gets the points on the scoreboard....Brady doesn't seem to have the strongest arm...superbowls.

People here are arguing over our back-ups....BACK-UPS.

People with agendas on both sides accusing the other of having agendas.

I have no agenda as I don't see either as being THE guy for the future.

Yet, I will probably be accused of having an agenda....in some twisted way.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Henson easily outplayed Bledsoe, though it was against 3rd stringers

Romo, however, looked much better than Henson, at least to me. Henson was impressive at times, but had several passes that just came out of his hand wrong and refused to take any risks when throwing. He attempted ONE pass down the middle of the field and it was overthrown.

Two were knocked down because of his sidearmed release ... you can easily see this on film.

 

[BigDFan5]

Oh look! It's the Henson people doing a drive by Henson spin - on a tricycle!

Is that Hos driving with BZ in the back?

Reality hurt?

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Fine, remain in denial, but you claiming Henson had more "zip" on the ball doesnt mean anything....at all. He had 3 passes that just floated badly on him and 2 others he threw away with no pressure on him AT ALL. Romo looked far more comfortable and didnt have any poorly throw balls. His only "bad" throw was when he threw it a little too late to Crayton in the endzone, and even then Crayton could have caught it as it went off his fingers.

The incompletion that Romo threw in the endzone could have easily been caught by Keyshawn ...