How do you feel about Belicheat as the successor to McCarthy?

How do you feel about Belicheat as the successor to McCarthy?

  • Yes, great hire for the Cowboys

  • Leaning in favor of him as next coach

  • Leaning against him as next coach

  • No, terrible hire for the Cowboys


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TheSport78

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Pros: switch to a 3-4 D to maximize what Parsons does best, better preparation and focus leading up to games, likely less penalities and mental errors

Cons: Old retread, Pats were abysmal after Brady left (other than Mac Jones' rookie year), poor coaching tree and questionable assistants would be brought in, BB historically not a great drafter
 

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Belichick knows more defensive football than anyone else alive, so on that count, he is an eminently qualified hire. But there's a lot about him that would give me skepticism.

-His hard-*** "do your job" culture just doesn't sell in the Micah Parsons podcast influencer era. Players hate it, and a lot of coaches under him hate it too. Saban called coaching under Belichick in Cleveland the worst four years of his life, and Saban is cut from that exact same cloth.

-Could Belichick even manage to instill a "do your job" culture, when players that don't like him know he's going to be gone in 2 years anyway?

-He has never had to deal with an owner like Jerry landing a helicopter on his practice field. Belichick is an autocrat and 100% will not take well to the Jerry circus.

-For a guy who knows so much ball, Belichick is a terrible judge of player talent. In particular, he is maybe the worst evaluator of college WRs to ever turn in a draft card. Being an autocrat compounds this - he's a horrible drafter who insists that he keeps on drafting.

-Belichick is like a dictator - he rewards loyalty over skill with his assistants. When he's calling his own defense and Brady is essentially calling his own offense, you can hide an Eric Mangini or Matt Patricia on your staff. If your QB is say Dak, that becomes a lot harder.

All in all, I would take Belichick over any Chan Gailey, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy type coach that Jerry would otherwise dredge up. But IMO, we'd be looking at a Cleveland Bill situation rather than a New England Bill situation.
 

MikeT22

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I’d take him over whatever puppet Jerry would probably prefer.
This is basically the only item in the “pro” column.
He did nothing with the Pats the 5 years he coached after Brady left. BB will be 73 next April, so would likely coach 5 years or less, unless you think he’ll be coaching at 80. Zero chance he would have the same energy to put in the time it takes at this level.

I suppose he could install his style of defense and discipline but that wouldnt happen overnight. And as we saw with Parcells, it didnt take long for it to all go out the window after he left.
 

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I think BB to Dallas would be a bonehead move....... and its just the type of stupid I expect from Jerry and this FO. We just invested all this money in a QB and WR. We need an offensive guru to justify the investment.
 

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This defense is so bad that even one entire draft can't fix it and we know Jerry isn't going to spend big in free agency. That means you better hire a coach with a proven track record of successful defenses that don't need a lot elite players. Belichick can do that......it kinda reminds me of Wade Phillips. Wherever he was hired, your defense saw immediate improvement but the problem is you could only take him in small doses ( 2-3 years max). Say what you want but Belichick is a defensive genius. He age doesn't bother me at all coz he's likely to bring in young coordinators. Hire him and the days of getting out-coached by OCs are over. As everyone says about him......he's going to take away what your offense does best.

Sidenote .....if hired, we will probably switch back to the 3-4 and many have said this is a better scheme for Parsons. This may also explain why Jerry refused to add any additional players this season.

I just he's the best choice for the at this particular time
 
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mattjames2010

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Belichick is at the point in his career where he'll come back for a front office job. Similar to Parcell's and Coughlin did.
 

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Just a casual...

Assuming he is not constantly undercut by the Jones's, what BB brings to the table is more guaranteed than what gambling on a young, gifted OC could guarantee. And that is an improved defense and a more organized, disciplined looking team.

Worst case scenario is something happens...we go 0-6...BB loses the locker room and it turns into a bad ride at a cheap carnival.

My whole issue with the Cowboys is how they are coached come Playoff time. We seem to get out coached but have had talent. I think BB would make this team look a lot crisper as a whole, solely on his coaching ability and defensive mind.

Parsons or Lamb turning on BB, or any player in the Jones long-term plans, could send this into a circus quick.

I think there is a safety element to a BB hire because of his defensive mind and a long history of having disciplined teams.
 

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Any team hiring him will know it is a short term gig. He is primarily interested in regular season wins as his post season record is already extraordinary. A team owner will know exactly what his interest is, and a good roster will attract him. He will attract a lot of attention. Some owners will like that. One owner, for sure, will not.
 

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An old coach desperately trying to recapture his old magic...........how many more times?
 

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We don't need a coordinator....we need a HEAD COACH. Bill would be my choice as of now. Great resume and will easily command respect from our "stars"...He will carry a big stick, since he has nothing to lose.
There's something to be said for BB as our HC, although, it would really be interesting to see how BB and our FO managed to co-exist. Belichick got quite accustomed to having things his way in New England. I can't help but to wonder how much of our FO would cater to BB's tendencies to get the kind of financial support he had in Beantown.

I'm sure his knowledge of talent would be invaluable IF Jerry & Son were willing to allow the monies to get the kind of talent that he enjoyed at that stop. There's always the big question of if they'd offer up their cap savings enough to get along with him. Bill Parcels did okay with them for a while, but we all know how well that ended up. It would likely be interesting to see if it worked out any differently with BB.
 
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stinkface

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What was his record after Brady left? PS. Awful was his record. Great coach, great record, but that was then, this is now. Nope.
 

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Lots of talk about Belicheat coming to coach our Cowboys. Both in the media and especially in here. How about a sort of mid-season bye week poll to see what everyone is thinking? It's not a given that McCarthy will be gone after this season. However, if he is, then a replacement is needed. So, how do you feel about Belicheat as the successor to McCarthy? Only one vote and it will be visible publicly.
I'm not entirely sure that Belichek is a good coach without Tom Brady. Tom has succeeded without him but BB was really bad without Tom, so....
 

Hawkeye0202

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I'm not entirely sure that Belichek is a good coach without Tom Brady. Tom has succeeded without him but BB was really bad without Tom, so....
Keep seeing this
Context.......he and Brady were together for 11-12 years? His final 2-3 years w/o Brady were not good but he didn't have a QB. In other words, if he had replaced Brady with a top 10 AND still struggled, I can understand the statement but to say he can't coach after all he's accomplished based on 2 years w/o Brady doesn't make sense to me.
 

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I'd rather go younger, and Belichick doesn't have the best track record without Tom Brady.

I'd still take him over Zimmer (who I think will get the job), and Garrett (some are speculating gets the job) any day, all day.
No one is speculating Garrett gets the job
 

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As long as Jerruh and Stepin are around, it doesn't matter who the HC is. They wouldn't give Belichick (or anyone else) the carte blank control it would take to turn this franchise around.
Its a money-making circus for the Jones first and foremost, and its going to stay that way.
 

fairviewfarmer

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Keep seeing this
Context.......he and Brady were together for 11-12 years? His final 2-3 years w/o Brady were not good but he didn't have a QB. In other words, if he had replaced Brady with a top 10 AND still struggled, I can understand the statement but to say he can't coach after all he's accomplished based on 2 years w/o Brady doesn't make sense to me.
11-12? Try 19 seasons as BB's starting QB. But yes, your point is valid.
 

Hawkeye0202

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Another thing ......his system and culture hid a bunch of average players and assistant coaches. In other words, they looked as long as they were playing or coaching for the Pats but remember the track records of his assistants as head coaches or Brady backups signed or traded to start for other teams? Classic cast of system/scheme hiding jags.........
 

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You bring him in to build for the long haul. He may be getting old, but his coaching tree is extremely extensive and successful. There's no shortage of suitable candidates to carry on his legacy.

Jerry Jones is in danger of losing his committed fanbase. The media is tearing him apart and it's getting to him. He knows he's going to need to do something drastic to calm the storm. Bringing Bill in and giving him free reign would do it. By allowing Bill to build his team and culture, then hand it off to one of his guys when he retires, it not only extends Bill's legacy, but potentially salvages Jerry's. JJ knows this. He's done it before. He'll do it again if his hand is forced, and it appears that's the case right now.
I know what I would do. But Jerry doesn't do the things necessary to built a great team because he will never allow another Jimmy to take the spot light from himself. If he brings in Bill, bill won't have free reign. It'll be a money grab by bill, knowing he has a few years to make it look like they are trying to win. Very similar to Bill Parcels, come in clean a few things up and leave. Very hard to do a major reset when your QB makes almost as much as the entire defense.
 

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Can't get a job coaching high school.
When has that stopped Jerry? Neither Zeke nor Zimmer would have jobs in the NFL if not for Jerry.

Garrett had no resume to speak of other than that he once won a game against GB as Troy's backup, and that didn't stop Jerry from making him HC for a decade of failure.
 
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