How LVE is hurting this run defense

RoboQB said:
Funny you mention Aikman. Maybe you should research that one a bit.
He had players and a coach suggest he was too hard on the black players.
None other than Charles Haley set'em straight. Look it up.
Why should I keep my thoughts to myself? Nobody else does.
The guy who does these videos is a clown.
Those who follow his opinions are ignorant to the game.
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I didn’t watch the whole video. What does he have wrong?
 
RoboQB said:
Funny you mention Aikman. Maybe you should research that one a bit.
He had players and a coach suggest he was too hard on the black players.
None other than Charles Haley set'em straight. Look it up. I know the story.
Why should I keep my thoughts to myself? Nobody else does. Because that kind of talk is verboten here.
The guy who does these videos is a clown. Didn't watch it, may never have seen anything he's done.
Those who follow his opinions are ignorant to the game. See above sentence.
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quickccc said:


per Akoye Media

- Great break down by Akoye with LVE film session. i wanted to add this to the existing LVE thread,
but could not find it.

- This is why we seriously need an upgrade over LVE

- Something must be up with Anthony Barr as they dont see him an immediate replacement.
He's a sore spot but LVE is NOT the only one that is killing this run defense, but he's a start as
to why.

- Despite his immense size and length, he's just not instinctive and physical enuff
he looks like Tarzan ,,but he plays like Jane, :oops:
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watched AKOYE film study on LVE...why are we not substituting LVE with Cox?...LVE intiates good look then hesitates and gets washed out of many plays.....we need to forget just because he was our #1 pick of

2018 that makes him premium....he is still scared of neck injury and i dont blame him for that but coaches should sit him and sometimes that fires up a player?
 
mattjames2010 said:
Can't believe this dude still has defenders on here.
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mattjames--- i have to agree...but i think if we "sit him" for Cox it may fire him up to get over fear of neck injury....2018 LVE not afraid to stick head and shoulders into the play....not until injury and probably bringing

him back too soon aggravated and became a mental block???
 

You commented on a thread that starts with a video that you didn't watch.
And yet, you're telling me to keep my thoughts to myself... lol/smh
 
xwalker said:
He is completely wrong on most points.

I wish that more fans would spend time reviewing game footage and learning the details of schemes. It is really fascinating what good coaches can accomplish.

Quinn's usage of LVE is really interesting for anyone that spends enough time studying it. Nobody will understand Quinn's usage of LVE by watching 1
LVE plays stack & shed in Quinn's scheme.
- It is similar to 2-gap by DLinemen.

His role is to engage the OLineman blocking on the 2nd level. If you watch enough game footage you'll see him seek out a blocker that is attempting to get to another defender.

Quinn's requirement is for LVE to end up on the same side of the blocker as the ball carrier. It is expected that a 255 pound LB will give up ground to a 320 pound OLineman.

They goal is for other defenders to make the tackle before the ball carrier gets to LVE with LVE there to cleanup when they don't.

This concept frees up other players like Micah Parsons to not have rigid gap responsibilities. That allows Parsons to roam and make big plays.

In Quinn's scheme the other defenders key off of LVE taking on the 2nd level blocker. Their lateral flow does not suddenly get stopped by that blocker because the blocker is already engaged with LVE.

LVE engaged with the 2nd level blocker forces the ball carrier to commit to one side of that blocker. This makes it easier for other defenders to take good angles.
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LVE role very similar to Bobby Wagner role in Seattle in DQ system.

Same role different results.
 
RoboQB said:
You commented on a thread that starts with a video that you didn't watch.
And yet, you're telling me to keep my thoughts to myself... lol/smh
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Your thoughts had nothing to do with the video, and neither have my posts. And I didn't tell you to keep those thoughts to yourself, I suggested it, for your own sake.
 
Mr_437 said:
Are you saying DQ has a scheme where the MLB is functioning as NT (2 gap)? C'mon mane.

LVE is hesitating, he is playing slow, and even if he's supposed to be a 255lb NT he's still not getting off blocks.

I don't know why these coaches continue to play certain guys, but they could do better at MLB. LVE is soft, every defender tackles with more force than the middle LB..that's a problem.
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It’s absolute nonsense.

To think Quinn designed a defense to have linebackers occupy offensive linemen to allow defensive backs to clean up is buffoonery.
 
xwalker said:
No, that is by design.

LVE's role is to engage the OL blocking on the 2nd level. It is similar to a DLineman playing 2-gap.

Marinelli had no answer for the zone blocking scheme. The 2018 Rams made it to the Super Bowl based on their unique version of the ZBS. The Cowboys would always be out of position vs that run scheme because it exploited inherent weaknesses in Marinelli's scheme.

Their RB had 3 keys...the 2 LBs and the 1tech DT.
1 correct read: positive gain.
2 correct reads big gain.
3 correct reads TD.

Quinn's scheme has schematic answers for most versions of the zbs and a big part of the answer is LVE playing stack & shed technique instead of run & hit technique.

LVE's performance was top 2 on defense in the playoff game. He had 13 total tackles. The problem is that the goal in Quinn's scheme is for other defenders to make the tackle before the RB gets to LVE.
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LVE might be the worst NFL linebacker at stacking and shedding I’ve ever seen. He has no instinct for it and often flinches on contact. You look at how Dant’a Hightower attacks linemen and then LVE and it’s night and day. If DQ is giving LVE two gap responsibilities than he’s given it to a player with the worst skill set for it I can think of.
 
Mr_437 said:
What is he wrong about?
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The kid is bashing every single play.
LVE makes a tackle for loss against #35 and this kid is still crying.
"Even when he does it right, he does it wrong."

People who listen to this and come away thinking this was
an informative video are marks for any clown making a video.
 
xwalker said:
He is completely wrong on most points.

I wish that more fans would spend time reviewing game footage and learning the details of schemes. It is really fascinating what good coaches can accomplish.

Quinn's usage of LVE is really interesting for anyone that spends enough time studying it. Nobody will understand Quinn's usage of LVE by watching 1
LVE plays stack & shed in Quinn's scheme.
- It is similar to 2-gap by DLinemen.

His role is to engage the OLineman blocking on the 2nd level. If you watch enough game footage you'll see him seek out a blocker that is attempting to get to another defender.

Quinn's requirement is for LVE to end up on the same side of the blocker as the ball carrier. It is expected that a 255 pound LB will give up ground to a 320 pound OLineman.

They goal is for other defenders to make the tackle before the ball carrier gets to LVE with LVE there to cleanup when they don't.

This concept frees up other players like Micah Parsons to not have rigid gap responsibilities. That allows Parsons to roam and make big plays.

In Quinn's scheme the other defenders key off of LVE taking on the 2nd level blocker. Their lateral flow does not suddenly get stopped by that blocker because the blocker is already engaged with LVE.

LVE engaged with the 2nd level blocker forces the ball carrier to commit to one side of that blocker. This makes it easier for other defenders to take good angles.
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I hope you're not coaching beyond Pee Wee football with that philosphy.
 
Cmac said:
I hope you're not coaching beyond Pee Wee football with that philosphy.
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Dan Quinn has LVE starting and playing a high percentage of snaps.

The 2020 defense was the worst in history.

Quinn has transformed then into a top rated defense.

How do you rate your football vs Dan Quinn...
 
xwalker said:
Dan Quinn has LVE starting and playing a high percentage of snaps.

The 2020 defense was the worst in history.

Quinn has transformed then into a top rated defense.

How do you rate your football vs Dan Quinn...
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You’re not describing Quinn’s scheme.

Your interpretation of what you think is happening is what’s being ridiculed.
 
Dan Quinn has LVE starting and playing a high percentage of snaps.

This is fact and is independent of anything that I've described about the scheme.
 
quickccc said:


per Akoye Media

- Great break down by Akoye with LVE film session. i wanted to add this to the existing LVE thread,
but could not find it.

- This is why we seriously need an upgrade over LVE

- Something must be up with Anthony Barr as they dont see him an immediate replacement.
He's a sore spot but LVE is NOT the only one that is killing this run defense, but he's a start as
to why.

- Despite his immense size and length, he's just not instinctive and physical enuff
he looks like Tarzan ,,but he plays like Jane, :oops:
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LVE often looks bad in the wash.

I wonder a little if that's coaching. Is it possible that they coach the LBs to two gap instead of penetrate a gap? It looks like that's what he's trying to do.
 
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