How to create Salary Cap space

[TheMarathonContinues]

The front office knows they can do any of what he proposed.

It’s up to them to decide if they will actually do it.

I agree with you but why do you think its even a question for them? Why won't they do this?

 

[cern]

With the way they have chosen to spend the little money they do have....I'd honestly trust Nightman over what's going on over there lol.

There's a issue here and its hurting them.

IF you want to tell me we don't want to be players in free agency...come out and say that. But don't do what you've done. Don't spend 4 million on Nolan Carroll or spend money on the Benson Mayawa's and Cedric Thorton's. It may not be a 100 million but that is money and resources. You hampering your scouting department as well by doing that. They rely on Will McClay to find diamonds in a rough.....but they are limiting his abilities by not broadening the type of guys he can look at due to salary.

I really don't care what they do from a financial point of view. the failing of the cowboys is their coaching staff. as long as jerry clings to his beloved garrett, we will never go to the big dance. financial reality in the nfl sucks. the players/employees have far too much leverage. in the corporate world, I can let a top executive go and put out a search for a replacement. in the nfl you can't do that because of contract constraints, tampering, and other legalities. and you don't have to worry as much about injuries. dui's still loom as a problem. football is a big money business comprised of just a very few working parts to the puzzle. I agree with the vast majority of your post.

 

[Nightman]

With the way they have chosen to spend the little money they do have....I'd honestly trust Nightman over what's going on over there lol.

There's a issue here and its hurting them.

IF you want to tell me we don't want to be players in free agency...come out and say that. But don't do what you've done. Don't spend 4 million on Nolan Carroll or spend money on the Benson Mayawa's and Cedric Thorton's. It may not be a 100 million but that is money and resources. You hampering your scouting department as well by doing that. They rely on Will McClay to find diamonds in a rough.....but they are limiting his abilities by not broadening the type of guys he can look at due to salary.

• Like you said the RW11 deal was terrible the minute they traded for him and awful the moment they extended him

• MBIII was terrible the moment he re-signed

• The second Hamlin deal was bad

• The Free deal blew up immediately

• The third Miles Austin deal was bad and caused the 10m cap penalty

• The Spencer tagging and re-tagging for 20m was bad

• The Ratliff deal was a steal up until he went mental and challenged JJones to a fight

• The Carr deal was an over-pay for an over-rated square peg but it shouldn't put us off FA forever

For every good one year of Selvie and Mincey and Melton and Hardy there are year twos and guys like Thornton and Carroll and Paea...... we gave Thornton 9m for one year..... that was just a bad call ..... Carroll 4m for 4 games

There are 3 ways to build a team...........thru the Draft, with Free Agency and making some Trades
We completely ignore FA and barely delve into Trades...... our instincts on the Draft are pretty good so just use the same criteria when trading and signing free agents

 

[cowboyblue22]

last year should pretty much tell u why they don't go out in free agency because they have on idea what the heck they are doing after last offseason you want this front office to pick free agent players for you ihave seen post of several fans on this site that makes lots of credible sense I think the jones are more worried about pocketing the money if the fans would stay home from training camp and reduce there money expenditures on merchandize and the stadium things would change

 

[LittleD]

but the thing about it is when the good guys they draft they then let most of them walk when they hit free agency they still don't have martins deal done and hitchens is going to walk and Lawrence is tagged and may walk as well

The problem is that when you manage the cap on the credit card and someone like Romo retires a year or so early, you have to eat millions
of dollars you charged on the account. Now if players don't work out and underperform and you gave them a big contract, you pay the price for years. All teams make mistakes on players but, some teams like New England evaluate better and get rid of players who don't perform. Jerry doesn't manage that way.

 

[Nightman]

What do you mean "so what"?

By making these moves you are going all in this year. It would stymie us for the five years after, so we would absolutely need to win next year.

Likely wouldnt be able to afford resigning Dak and Co. when their contracts are up, but "so what"?

I was saying "so what'' to your made up stat that no one has ever done more than 4 restructures.....so what I repeat

As far as the cap goes..........Lather......Rinse...... Repeat

If you create 50m in cap space every year and add 20m in dead money you are still 30m ahead

When the cap goes up 10m it is just an extra bonus and more free money

DAL is 65m under the cap next year so your theory of being stymied for 5 years is bullocks

 

[Nightman]

The problem is that when you manage the cap on the credit card and someone like Romo retires a year or so early, you have to eat millions
of dollars you charged on the account. Now if players don't work out and underperform and you gave them a big contract, you pay the price for years. All teams make mistakes on players but, some teams like New England evaluate better and get rid of players who don't perform. Jerry doesn't manage that way.

Romo retiring SAVED DAL 14m last year and 20m this year on the cap and in cash

That is 34m over two years.....kind of blows your little theory up and that was a worst case scenario type of retirement

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I was saying "so what'' to your made up stat that no one has ever done more than 4 restructures.....so what I repeat

As far as the cap goes..........Lather......Rinse...... Repeat

If you create 50m in cap space every year and add 20m in dead money you are still 30m ahead

When the cap goes up 10m it is just an extra bonus and more free money

DAL is 65m under the cap next year so your theory of being stymied for 5 years is bullocks

That's not how the cap works......

 

[windward]

I agree with you but why do you think its even a question for them? Why won't they do this?

I think they will do some of it, at least.

But Stephen is probably less aggressive than Jerry and that reflects in our FA strategy these days.

 

[Nightman]

That's not how the cap works......

it is exactly how it works

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

it is exactly how it works

It's actually not at all. Lmao.

 

[ghst187]

Pretty sure that
A) we are the only team in the league that is always in "cap trouble"
Or B) we are completely incompetent at managing the cap
Or C) both A and B

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bing.....what are you still doing here?????? I thought I told you to go.......

Yeah you seem like a little man as Pesci is. Your problem here is you cannot resort to violence to get your way.

Your method of restructuring as much as possible and spending to the cap remains a terrible idea.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The goal isn't to have huge Cap Space.... the goal should be to spend as much of the cap as possible every year.....even spending cash above the cap.... the beauty of the cap is it goes up every year

That is your goal. And again if you do that to high risk player giving them high dead money totals then you are screwed when you spend all that money because you have no further restructures to free up room and deal with accelerations should they retire or be cut.

The penalty for being over the cap is a $1m a day.

What is sad is you have been having your face rubbed in it for years and you still make the exact same claim without considering the rebuttal.

 

[Harpospoke]

Too bad they didn't figure out Dez was overrated a couple of years ago when some other team may have bought into the idea that he was a star.

Now he's a negative in two ways:

1-Salary kills the cap
2-Play on the field hurts the team/Dak is at his worst throwing to Dez

"Restructuring" only takes care of one of those things. Dez would still be the guy who "works hard" on lifting weights and running sprints but still hasn't improved his techniques as a WR in all his years.

Shannon Sharp pretty much nailed it at 9:35

 

[Nightman]

The penalty for being over the cap is a $1m a day.

There is no penalty for being over the cap.....the league won't allow it.......you have to be in compliance

 

[Harpospoke]

Speaking of the cap. I hate it because it becomes a problem for every team at some point. You just know every time a team throws 15million or more at a single player that it is going to hurt them in the future. The cap isn't big enough to throw that much at one player. The Seahawks got one SB ring and then started shedding players immediately because of the cap. The Eagles better act fast because they will start losing players quickly.

Free agency/salary cap = good for the players/owners.....not good for fans.

 

[3rd_n_inches]

Pretty sure that
A) we are the only team in the league that is always in "cap trouble"
Or B) we are completely incompetent at managing the cap
Or C) both A and B

Im going to choose answer “A”

If what the OP stated is correct meaning the organization can create that amount in cap by going back to rework players contracts that were negotiated with that idea kept in mind as well as also cutting players that have a good chance to not play many snaps then it makes sense.

For example if a teenager were to ask a parent(s) for gas money so they pull their wallet out and have only a single 10 dollar bill in it and say “This is all I got” but if something happened such as the battery in the car needed to be replaced the same day somehow that same parent purchased it.

I say all this just due to the fact that advertising millions of dollars isn’t good for any buisness especially when you are a NFL franchise.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There is no penalty for being over the cap.....the league won't allow it.......you have to be in compliance

If you suffer accelerations and go over the cap then you go over the cap then you have 7 days to comply. At that point they start fining you millions of dollars, draft picks, can void contracts at their discretion.

Your way leads to the risk of that with no way of avoiding it. You either cut players or you get the hammer from the NFL. You still have no answer for this reality and try to argue around the issue and focus on minutiae.

 

[Nightman]

If you suffer accelerations and go over the cap then you go over the cap then you have 7 days to comply. At that point they start fining you millions of dollars, draft picks, can void contracts at their discretion.

Your way leads to the risk of that with no way of avoiding it. You either cut players or you get the hammer from the NFL. You still have no answer for this reality and try to argue around the issue and focus on minutiae.

So you admit you made up the 1m a day fine....... just like the 40 time thread,,,,,, you make a fool of yourself and come back for more