CFZ How wide of a gap is there between the Cowboys from the 49ers/Eagles

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yes, the team needs to carry dak better so he doesn't shoot the team in the foot again. He seems to have the Cern glitch.

I just hope we stockpile a good enough team to carry him to some playoff wins this year. Go Team
 

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The other two teams have a dominate run game that they can lean on. People can talk about Dak all they want, but those other two QB's would struggle much the same if not more without a high level ground attack.
The Eagles hung 35 points on the Chiefs in the SB and it wasn't because of the run game. I know people don't respect Hurts and like to think he is the product of a RPO offense but Hurts is throwing the ball well and is using good ball placement. Dak just isn't playing well at all when he faces resistance. You look at Purdy and Jimmy G and yes they benefit from the run game but they keep chipping away and make plays.
 

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The Eagles hung 35 points on the Chiefs in the SB and it wasn't because of the run game. I know people don't respect Hurts and like to think he is the product of a RPO offense but Hurts is throwing the ball well and is using good ball placement. Dak just isn't playing well at all when he faces resistance. You look at Purdy and Jimmy G and yes they benefit from the run game but they keep chipping away and make plays.
It cause of their balance that they are able to exploit big plays in the passing game. Eagles lost the SB cause that couldn't stop the Chiefs run game in the 2nd half.
 

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We shall see. Getting rid of Zeke was the best thing they did from what I can see. They did NOTHING on the line that will impact the Oline in a good way. Shoonmaker was a step in improving the run game. However I was surprised all they did was sign Jones and draft Deuce. Unless Leupke is going to have a role.
They did add Schonn and a FB who I hear was seeing a lot of reps with the 1st teamers in minicamp. The running scheme had to be changed as we have seen the running game disappear late in seasons in back to back years. As I mentioned recently, they have to bring back the screen game, which strangley they couldn't execute at all under Moore as the OC. Find a way to get guys like Pollard, Vaughn and even Turpin touches in space.
 

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I mentioned recently, they have to bring back the screen game, which strangely they couldn't execute at all under Moore as the OC. Find a way to get guys like Pollard, Vaughn and even Turpin touches in space.
Adding an effective screen game to the offense would be a huge deal. Man I miss those days and the Cowboys were good at it also.
 

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The Eagles hung 35 points on the Chiefs in the SB and it wasn't because of the run game. I know people don't respect Hurts and like to think he is the product of a RPO offense but Hurts is throwing the ball well and is using good ball placement. Dak just isn't playing well at all when he faces resistance. You look at Purdy and Jimmy G and yes they benefit from the run game but they keep chipping away and make plays.
yeah, Grapolo had total of 7 passes thrown in one playoff win. I would say he is benefitting from running game.
 

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We have recent draft classes maturing and scratching roles still, they are not instant starters anymore by need and that is where you build core strength on a roster.

No longer are you drafted and just given a gig, well Mazi will be, but you peeps know what I mean.

I look at this roster and I still look at potential talent, talent that has already shown upside but fighting for reps, you look at players like Muk, with Hooker starting there...

This is crazy depth in our back seven, yet many posters in this house stay with this crazy notion that we are weak at LB ....lol

Q has to have his LVE and Clark, but we dont have to be much deeper than that.

Our definition of LB is redefined and deeper than many think.
 

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Take away homer thoughts, both the 49ers/Eagles last yr were clearly better teams then the Cowboys:

-Both teams were absolutely loaded personnel wise. Eagles lost arguably their best defensive player in Hargrave, who signed with the 49ers. Lost their coordinators on both sides of the football and now will be counting on several young prospects to make an impact. Eagles are quite like the Cowboy team, but still have better players inside the trenches on both side of the football. Eagles might see a little step back due to a lot unproven talent.

-The 49ers, in my opinion are a different animal, health remains a concern, along with their QB position. Will teams figure out Purdy? The same can be said about Hurts. Usually, when given an off-season, defensive coordinators will find weaknesses to exploit. Will they find away to overcome the so called 2nd yr jinx? How do teams successfully attack the 49er defense?

-Cowboys definitely can play with both teams, but they will need to play more clean and take advantage of their opponents mistakes. Still believe their is a gap. but not as wide as previous seasons.
The gap has closed now IMHO to the point of being able to slide your credit card through the very narrow margin.
 

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IMO, if Dallas holds its leads against Green Bay and Jacksonville, they take the Washington game seriously and finish 15-2. They go in as the 1 seed, watch Philly and SF play each other in the divisional round and then face the winner at home.

I could make the argument that Dallas was two plays away from going to the super bowl last year:
Jacksonville - 3rd and 10 1:20 left. Dak incomplete 35 yd pass that should have been a run up the middle.
Green Bay - 4th and 7 13:23 left. Rodgers 39 yd TD.

If the outcome of those two plays changes, Dallas goes to the super bowl. People use hindsight to really overstate the difference between winning and losing in the NFL because that makes a better story.
 

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It's mind blowing that they could never execute a simple screen over the last few seasons.
I have noticed that the screen pass is getting harder to execute. Defenses see it develop and are playing it really well. The Staubach to Newhouse screen was deadly back in the day but those days are just not the same any more.
 

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It's mind blowing that they could never execute a simple screen over the last few seasons.
Takes timing, and pulling gurads, mobile TEs with hands, and execution is about patience and trust of everything coming together and delivering precisely at the right moment.
Its EZ if you have the chemistry.
 

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Rodgers 39 yd TD.

If the outcome of those two plays changes, Dallas goes to the super bowl. People use hindsight to really overstate the difference between winning and losing in the NFL because that makes a better story.
They were close.
 

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Takes timing, and pulling gurads, mobile TEs with hands, and execution is about patience and trust of everything coming together and delivering precisely at the right moment.
Its EZ if you have the chemistry.
It's really a basic play call that can be executed rather easily.
 

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I have noticed that the screen pass is getting harder to execute. Defenses see it develop and are playing it really well. The Staubach to Newhouse screen was deadly back in the day but those days are just not the same any more.
I think that is more of an excuse, as many teams are successful running screen plays.
 

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yeah, Grapolo had total of 7 passes thrown in one playoff win. I would say he is benefitting from running game.
Yeah I believe it was 9° weather too You don't want to get into a shootout with Aaron Rodgers but that kind of weather is running the ball weather and garoppolo did come away with a w I would have taken out if it was Dak.
 

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The gap has closed now IMHO to the point of being able to slide your credit card through the very narrow margin.
respectfully....how do you absolutely know before they step onto the field. I say SHOW ME!!.

Lordy , I want to believe you are right, But Ive this movie too many times.
 
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