How would you feel if we acquired Brandon Marshall?

[gmoney112]

No sir, I am not.

Drop the ad hominem attacks. I'm debating logic with you at the moment and there's no place in a debate for such insults. You're assuming a causal relationship where there is none. Where is the fault in my logic? If you get shot, and I didn't shoot you, who did shoot you?

It's not logic, you're being completely literal to a fault. It's too bad the argument isn't, "who pulled the trigger?" It said who was responsible, and Marshall was responsible. Did Darrent Williams fight a bunch of murderous gangsters? No. Brandon Marshall did. The bullets were intended for Marshall for a reason, because he was responsible for the shooting in the first place. That in my mind defines responsibility. If Marshall's cousin didn't spray a group of gangsters with champagne, and if he did not get physical with them after the club, Darrent Williams would be alive right now. I'm not responding again, so I hope my point got across.

 

[Thatkidbob]

It's not logic, you're being completely literal to a fault. It's too bad the argument isn't, "who pulled the trigger?" It said who was responsible, and Marshall was responsible. Did Darrent Williams fight a bunch of murderous gangsters? No. Brandon Marshall did. The bullets were intended for Marshall for a reason, because he was responsible for the shooting in the first place. That in my mind defines responsibility. If Marshall's cousin didn't spray a group of gangsters with champagne, and if he did not get physical with them after the club, Darrent Williams would be alive right now. I'm not responding again, so I hope my point got across.

Don't worry, you need not respond again... you've already proved quite comprehensively that your view of causality is faulty. You're the sort of person that would say a stopped car is responsible for getting hit.

You said it yourself: Marshall's cousin, not Marshall himself, sprays champagne on the gangsters. As this is where the trouble started, by your logic you should be blaming Marshall's cousin for Williams' death.

Furthermore, you might as well blame a butterfly next time you have bad weather in your area... It was probably responsible for it

 

[stilltheguru]

Let's imagine that I get into it with somebody, they attempt to shoot me, but shoot you instead.

Who shot you?

You are looking pretty sad right now man. Like I said, next time people wanna start spouting off BS about how horrible TO is in comparison to some clown *** criminal/bad teammate make sure you know what you are talking about.

 

[zrinkill]

I do not want another Owens on the team ..... learned my lesson.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think he is a great talent. He is truly a freak at the position

But... think about this.... the fact that McDaniels would let him go should just confirm that he ain't worth the problems.

 

[Established1971]

There are all kinds of rumors and reports out there about his conduct.... he is named "Baby TO", after all. Now, I can see where you're all coming from when saying you don't want to deal with another player like that... but come on. He's not anything close to what TO has been, TO has singlehandedly torn teams apart. What has Brandon done? All I've heard from him is that he's talked back from time to time, and complained about a few things. But when it really comes down to it, do you see him *****ing and moaning and screaming at people on the sideline? Do you see him running to the center of the field to plant the football on the Cowboy star post-touchdown? No, all in all, he's shut up and simply produced. More-so than I thought after all of the offseason hype last year about his delinquency.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but how could we not want him? He had 22 catches in one game last season.... one game. Not only that, he's had 3 consecutive seasons with 100 catches. Now, I might be a little upset if we traded our first round pick for him, but honestly, I don't think there's much we couldn't do without if we gave it up, reason being we have no glaring needs, so if we can use our first round pick, something fairly irrelevant, to get Marshall why wouldn't we? The safeties we want and could take that will be productive outside of Thomas will be there, IE. Allen and Burnett. There are quiet prospects at OT and ILB that will be productive taken out of the 4th and 5th rounds.

All I'm saying, is I can't even imagine a duo of Austin and Marshall, complimented by people like Ogletree and Hurd (yes, Crayton can leave). They're both young and could become one of the longtime dominant WR duos in the league. As a matter of fact, they would.

I would think "PLEASE" stop this continuing string of prima donna WR's that often cost us more than theyre worth (Keyshawn, Owens, Willaims, then Marshall). At least Terry Glenn worked out for a while but most are just headaches.

 

[unionjack8]

I would feel like I stepped into an alternate universe because I know for a fact that as of last night when I was told by someone at VR that the Cowboys are not interested in him.

i wouldnt expect the janitor to be privy to that kind of information

 

[Hostile]

Marshall was poppin off at the mouth to some real goons and he got his friend dealt with. He is an idiot and its funny that people wanna still put salt on MY boys name when this clown had that incident, AND the domestic violence situation, AND all that garbage last year with mcdaniels. Marshall is a big mouth clown who got his friend killed.

You have the most screwed up sense of reality I have ever come across in my life. I am not defending Marshall over TO. If you asked me which one has worse character issues I would tell you Marshall without blinking. However, he did not get his friend killed. There is no way to intelligently spin that. A thug with a gun and no brains who can't handle other people's words killed Darrent Williams and thankfully they got the stupid SOB.

It is fitting that TOs birthday is December 7th. That is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. His entire MO is sneak attacks. Unfortunately for him they are on his own team.

 

[Rampage]

You have the most screwed up sense of reality I have ever come across in my life. I am not defending Marshall over TO. If you asked me which one has worse character issues I would tell you Marshall without blinking. However, he did not get his friend killed. There is no way to intelligently spin that. A thug with a gun and no brains who can't handle other people's words killed Darrent Williams and thankfully they got the stupid SOB.

It is fitting that TOs birthday is December 7th. That is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. His entire MO is sneak attacks. Unfortunately for him they are on his own team.

I nominate this post for burn of the week.

 

[Hostile]

Marshall grabbed a crip gang member by the head outside of a club during an argument. This was after Marshall's cousin sprayed champagne all over a group of gang members and tried to fight them outside of the club.

Yes he's responsible for his friends death. Cause and effect. Don't entice a historically violent group of individuals that don't have anything to lose and get their street cred from dealing with people that "pop off" to them.

And no, Marshall is a complete head case. I don't think he'll even be in the league 3-4 years from now.

There are actually two of you with this moronic idea? Have mercy.

 

[gmoney112]

There are actually two of you with this moronic idea? Have mercy.

You have a different definition of responsibility. I think a person should inherit some responsibility due to common freaking sense. Don't mess with people that can kill you. If i was with my family I wouldn't drive through downtown Houston, mouth off to an MS13 member, and claim no responsibility if they put 90 rounds into the car we would be driving.

If Marshall had not been there, would Williams still be alive? Yes or no.

Also there's a saying where I come from, if you play with fire prepare to get burnt. Instead of Marshall getting burnt it was his friend.

 

[Hostile]

i wouldnt expect the janitor to be privy to that kind of information

And you would be right.

 

[zrinkill]

It is fitting that TOs birthday is December 7th. That is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. His entire MO is sneak attacks. Unfortunately for him they are on his own team.

I nominate this post for burn of the week.

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[Hostile]

You have a different definition of responsibility. I think a person should inherit some responsibility due to common freaking sense. Don't mess with people that can kill you. If i was with my family I wouldn't drive through downtown Houston, mouth off to an MS13 member, and claim no responsibility if they put 90 rounds into the car we would be driving.

If Marshall had not been there, would Williams still be alive? Yes or no.

Here's the truth of cause and effect for you. The moron with the gun and stilted sense of justice and need for street cred is the cause and effect.

It is not Brandon Marshall's fault that some idiot thinks a bent towards violence makes him a bad man. It is that need for imaginary cred that killed Darrent Williams because a pee brained piece of **** felt he needed some and he had a gun.

Sell your bull somewhere else. We don't need the fertilizer.

 

[Texas_Pete]

I love his talent, but I learned my lesson with Pac Man Jones. Then again, I believe I read somewhere that Jerry regretted not drafting Randy Moss - another previously troubled highly talented WR. So who knows what Jerry is thinking.

 

[Hostile]

You are looking pretty sad right now man. Like I said, next time people wanna start spouting off BS about how horrible TO is in comparison to some clown *** criminal/bad teammate make sure you know what you are talking about.

The funniest part of all of this is you need to put your hero on some imaginary scale of who is a bigger freaking idiot so that you can sit behind a keyboard and scream "he is, get off my boy!"

Your boy is a self destructive moron. Others are worse. I hope that admission gives you some peace of mind.

 

[Hostile]

I nominate this post for burn of the week.

I just tried to top it.

 

[gmoney112]

Here's the truth of cause and effect for you. The moron with the gun and stilted sense of justice and need for street cred is the cause and effect.

It is not Brandon Marshall's fault that some idiot thinks a bent towards violence makes him a bad man. It is that need for imaginary cred that killed Darrent Williams because a pee brained piece of **** felt he needed some and he had a gun.

Sell your bull somewhere else. We don't need the fertilizer.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But you'd have to be the most ignorant person in the world to not know what a gang member is going to do when you put your heads on him and humiliate him in public. I don't buy that crap for a second. Marshall knew what he was doing, he knows a guy decked out in blue is a gang member. Brandon wanted to up his own street cred by punking a Crip, and his friend paid the price. That's how it works. Is Marshall fully responsible? No. Does he share some of the blame for setting the events in action that got his friend killed? Yep, you bet.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not disagreeing with you. But you'd have to be the most ignorant person in the world to not know what a gang member is going to do when you put your heads on him and humiliate him in public. I don't buy that crap for a second. Marshall knew what he was doing, he knows a guy decked out in blue is a gang member. Brandon wanted to up his own street cred by punking a Crip, and his friend paid the price. That's how it works. Is Marshall fully responsible? No. Does he share some of the blame for setting the events in action that got his friend killed? Yep, you bet.

You will never get me to agree with this. Sole responsibility lies at the hands of the punk with a gun who thinks he needs one to prove his pee pee is big. That sect of society are a worthless blight on the world. Pimples on a fat *** are more appealing.

 

[gmoney112]

You will never get me to agree with this. Sole responsibility lies at the hands of punk with a gun who thinks he needs one to prove his pee pee is big. That sect of society are a worthless blight on the world. Pimples on a fat *** are more appealing.

I don't view them as human. I view them as potentially life threatening objects that one should avoid if they value their way of life. That's how I feel about them. They are not worth my opinion. If I start to question why/how that lifestyle could be seen as admirable, it just angers me. Much easier to just group them together as potential landmines than to get into the psychology of that sect.