I actually have a beef with Parsons

[Batman1980]

Lol. So if he's not the next LT he's not worthy of a 1st rd pick. Interesting.

I know I'm being unreasonable, I just want more. I imagine it's no less than he wants from himself.

 

[Blackrain]

So he needs to be soliciting minors and snitching on a murder case in order to be old school?

No he needs to be more like Dick butkus and less like the social butterfly

 

[Captain-Crash]

yet back in the day there werent any SM , these kids grow up with it..its the norm.. I guess he should get a cocaine habit, be an alcoholic, be legally on steroids, hang around with murderers, maybe he'd fit in with this Group A little bit better for you?

he could hang out it joseph and his new crew since his old one is in jail for murder. As if he wasn't part of it. How about that?

 

[805BoysInBlue]

No he needs to be more like Dick butkus and less like the social butterfly

I have always been curious about how we'd perceive certain players from older eras, had we had access to them like now a days.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No he needs to be more like Dick butkus and less like the social butterfly

Butkus was all over TV back in the day.

 

[RomoIsGod]

He's too much new school and too much of a 'sweet' player to take full control of the Cowboys defense.

Old School linebackers: Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, Willie Lanier, Mike Singletary, Ray Lewis...they are not specialized besides effectively being immediately aggressive. They were in the play before they were blocked. Parsons gets blocked a lot, and isn't nearly as dominating as old school linebacker was for their team. That was five players who met every inch of the requirement. He better commit more within himself and less into talking about it. Do it!

Ok whatever. I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[CCBoy]

Ok whatever. I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

You could have just stopped after I don't think,...

 

[Kwyn]

Can’t believe this has twelve pages.

Anyone not on board with Micah is basically proposing a complete teardown.

And, for those who do think that way, we all know you are the type of fan who will *always* favor tanking and destroying the team just so you

1. Have something to complain about
2. Never have to actually root for the team

Enjoy your misery

 

[CCBoy]

Battle to Watch: Jabril Cox vs. DeMarvion Overshown: Overshown was the team's third-round draft pick this year, but really this could be Cox vs. any of the young linebackers battling for playing time. Now in his third season, the team's fourth-round pick in 2021 has seen 87 percent of his snaps come on special teams. Needless to say, contributing more on defense would benefit both Cox and the Cowboys.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/battle-lines-where-overshown-fits-with-lb-group

Now, how exactly will Parsons affect this pairing develop?

 

[TheCritic]

Can’t believe this has twelve pages.

Anyone not on board with Micah is basically proposing a complete teardown.

And, for those who do think that way, we all know you are the type of fan who will *always* favor tanking and destroying the team just so you

1. Have something to complain about
2. Never have to actually root for the team

Enjoy your misery

I respectfully disagree. In Micah's case, I think it's reasonable to question whether Micah can live up to whatever the ridiculous numbers of his 2nd contract is inevitably going to be. Right now, Micah's speed and athleticism have been the main reasons for his success and level of play. I imagine he will gain old man muscle, master technique and his intensity/passion will keep him growing as a player. He may very well live up to the expectations of being a once-in-a-generation talent.
But lots of things could go wrong. Injury, age, if his desire to stay in Dallas changes if/when DQ leaves. Sure lots of what-ifs that the average fan like myself shouldn't worry about - but I do suggest that the contract that we all know is coming could end up being an albatross for the team if he doesn't meet expectations. It is a risk and one that could potentially hamstring the Cowboys salary cap for years. I don't know exactly how big of a risk it is. Pointing it out, though, doesn't make me miserable. At least I don't think so.

 

[CCBoy]

This is the alternative if Parsons doesn't take charge of the linebackers:

Not only has Vander Esch shown flashes of his rookie campaign-- where he had 140 tackles and a Pro Bowl selection -- but he gives the Cowboys veteran experience in their linebacker room.

Vander Esch will be joined in the starting unit by either Damone Clark, Jabril Cox, or rookie DeMarvion Overshown. Clark enters his second season after a spinal injury damaged his draft stock in 2021. Cox will now be two years removed from the ACL injury he suffered during his rookie season, and Overshown was a third-round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft.

Re-signing Vander Esch gives Dallas some consistency in the middle of the field. He had 90 tackles last season, the most since his rookie season.

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/3-underrated-moves-cowboys-2023-offseason-mccarthy-moore/3

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is the alternative if Parsons doesn't take charge of the linebackers:

Not only has Vander Esch shown flashes of his rookie campaign-- where he had 140 tackles and a Pro Bowl selection -- but he gives the Cowboys veteran experience in their linebacker room.

Vander Esch will be joined in the starting unit by either Damone Clark, Jabril Cox, or rookie DeMarvion Overshown. Clark enters his second season after a spinal injury damaged his draft stock in 2021. Cox will now be two years removed from the ACL injury he suffered during his rookie season, and Overshown was a third-round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft.

Re-signing Vander Esch gives Dallas some consistency in the middle of the field. He had 90 tackles last season, the most since his rookie season.

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/3-underrated-moves-cowboys-2023-offseason-mccarthy-moore/3

And? That is still better than what we had last year.

 

[phildadon86]

Not motivation at all. First, Sir, thanks for your service. The 26th Infantry was at the Cambodian border area.

As to military experience, leadership development was the point - not service. The leadership elements are highly developed so that recognition of individual leadership ability is trainable and actually through long sustained study, have become very good as well as applicable in variously sized levels...equal to positional groups, offensive and defensive units, as well as team level evaluations and direction. Just like in service, accountability rests as well as start of each top level of those groups.

The difference in the Viet Cong and the American is that the Viet Cong attempted to win by beating the specific technique used. The Americans won because they used the principal behind the situation. That is what occurred with the Air Force 'Mafia' that developed the jet technique of avoiding surface to air and then circling back around, picking up the tracking vehicle and taking it out, and then taking out the launch vehicle. That was often in Cambodia, who was not 'in the war.'

Those pilots were teaching pilots, post 1975, those very techniques when Congress started to have them arrested and put in prison for being in violation of Johnson's Presidential orders.

That set of principals later became the very policy of our Air Force in Desert Storm and why our Air Force was able to dominate the skies in Iraq. Fact, but principal of leadership was the issue as is leadership in service, or a football team. That gives the most dominant use of resource and individuals.

If leadership is not followed then events dictate outcomes and direction becomes much more muddled than developed. It on a success level is not arbitrary success limited, but principal controlled on outcomes.

The very same applies to the Cowboys and now with a Jerry controlled, but a McCarthy led team.

I am rooting for a linebacker, and that takes quality leadership and not just once in a decade talent. The linebacker group directs a team's defense in principal...not just highlight talent but leadership.

I want to see Parsons become a great leader as all top defenses, notice it or not, have.

I’m sorry and maybe I’m mis reading this but did you just say America won Vietnam?

 

[Motorola]

Butkus was all over TV back in the day.

Yes he was; however, the vast majority of his TV appearances (celebrity endorser, broadcaster, actor) was after he retired from the league.

 

[CCBoy]

Yes he was; however, the vast majority of his TV appearances (celebrity endorser, broadcaster, actor) was after he retired from the league.

You assumed a ton of wrong. I was describing differences in method of fighting as well as principals that gave an advantage to the Americans fighting there. Basis of engagement.

We started out defending hilltops and a point on a map...

 

[Motorola]

You assumed a ton of wrong. I was describing differences in method of fighting as well as principals that gave an advantage to the Americans fighting there. Basis of engagement.

I was responding to another CZer - 'FuzzyLumpkins' - with his comment about former LB Butkus being on TV.

Why did feel the need to butt in with a war analogy that doesn't apply to my post?

 

[CCBoy]

I was responding to another CZer - 'FuzzyLumpkins' - with his comment about former LB Butkus being on TV.

Why did feel the need to butt in with a war analogy that doesn't apply to my post?

The topic chosen was leadership...that was referenced by myself...not what appears insulting to yourself, for some reason, a military reference for development of leadership. The comment was again, leadership and in a discussion, completely proper to include due to comparison value. Football after all, is an intense as well as physical sport. There are obvious similarities. I wasn't jumping discussion to divert a discussion, Son.

 

[Motorola]

The topic chosen was leadership...that was referenced by myself...not what appears insulting to yourself, for some reason, a military reference for development of leadership. The comment was again, leadership and in a discussion, completely proper to include due to comparison value. Football after all, is an intense as well as physical sport. There are obvious similarities. I wasn't jumping discussion to divert a discussion, Son.

Again - '___Boy' - my comment was directed at another member's post.
Nothing to do with your "topic".

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes he was; however, the vast majority of his TV appearances (celebrity endorser, broadcaster, actor) was after he retired from the league.

Not all. My point is he had high exposure without social media and the evolution of the papparazzi. I am not going to make assumptions but Butkus had a ton of noncriminal public exposure too.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Again - '___Boy' - my comment was directed at another member's post.
Nothing to do with your "topic".

He is being really weird with this unsolicited story time stuff.