I actually have a beef with Parsons

[blueblood70]

LOL, thats some crazy talk right there.

right, there's some delusional fans in here

 

[blueblood70]

I'm not in tune with him getting busted unless he becomes mixed in with criminals...but he still needs to up his game and develop more. You don't agree?

it would be a bonus if Micah parsons got better. seriously if HE played at this level the rest of his career, he still would be a steal at where we picked him in the draft we got him at 12 and 3rd with him.. even right now if they went and redi....raft parsons would be a top five pick you're not gonna win this I got beef with Parsons thread it was destroyed and moot as soon as you hit reply

 

[CCBoy]

it would be a bonus if Micah parsons got better. seriously if HE played at this level the rest of his career, he still would be a steal at where we picked him in the draft we got him at 12 and 3rd with him.. even right now if they went and redi....raft parsons would be a top five pick you're not gonna win this I got beef with Parsons thread it was destroyed and moot as soon as you hit reply

I wasn't trying to win squat...that wasn't the effort. To show that Dallas needed Parsons to take yet another step as a team leader and leader of the defense, not just be good. That was what was presented from the start.

Anyone ignoring that or not understanding with all that has been quoted from many sources...just care what the truth is nor what would make this very group of Dallas Cowboys top level good.

Naw, that's still on the obstinate or not understanding...and their choice, not facts.

 

[blueblood70]

Parsons hit a game 12 plateau where he went dead...too many plays as a defensive end and those match up. He better be a linebacker and with only a diet of 80% play plate. He needs game rest over the season or he will be worn out come playoffs.

Actually that's completely untrue the guy was injured around mid season and played through it but he made plays in the playoffs literally he was almost unblockable against Tampa Bay and made at least three or four plays in the 49er game how is it that he plateaued yes he slowed down he was injured pretty bad it looked like a shoulder a knee and I believe in ankle I don't remember what was bothering him but it was a lot so yeah he had to play through some injuries and he still came through and many games all season I remember DeMarcus Ware used to have a lot of 0 stat games lot of players have those games but go back and watch the Tampa Bay and the 49er game in the playoffs and you're gonna see #11 around the quarterback and running back all game like he usually is

Micah Parsons 2022 Stat line 65 Tackles 14 Tackles for loss 13.5 sacks 3 forced fumbles 3 pass Deflections 1 TD

I mean he only had one official sack but he had three passes defense also 16 tackles 3 tackles for loss but if you watch the game he actually chased the quarterback into either a sack by one of our other players or he batted balls down etcetera etc etc

So yes like other players he had some games where he didn't have any official stat line because of injuries and whatnot however he showed up in those games in the playoffs go watch them again you watch him chasing the quarterback into sacks and batting balls down and keeping plays from happening as far as short passes you get tackled right away

 

[blueblood70]

I wasn't trying to win squat...that wasn't the effort. To show that Dallas needed Parsons to take yet another step as a team leader and leader of the defense, not just be good. That was what was presented from the start.

Anyone ignoring that or not understanding with all that has been quoted from many sources...just care what the truth is nor what would make this very group of Dallas Cowboys top level good.

Naw, that's still on the obstinate or not understanding...and their choice, not facts.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

 

[blueblood70]

Parsons



SACKS

First 11 games = 12 sacks

Final 6 games = 1.5 sacks

Sacks aren’t the end-all, be-all for how disruptive he was, but it showed up in other areas as well.

TACKLES

First 11 games = 9 games with at least four tackles

Final 6 games = 1 game with at least four tackles

And you could even say some of his splashiness was no longer soaking the folks sitting in the first row.

FORCED FUMBLES

First 11 games = 3 games with a forced fumble

Final 6 games = No game with a forced fumble

If you charted all three of these categories, you can see that Parsons’ production started plateauing after his first 11 games. We’ll call this the Parsons Plateau.

At week 11, Parsons almost flatlines in all of those categories and it’s easy to suggest that weekly battles throughout the season take their toll on the Cowboys' young edge rusher. A large part of this is how the Cowboys used him last year compared to his rookie season. His role as an edge rusher expanded tremendously as he logged 738 snaps on the defensive line (81% of his snaps) last year compared to just 374 (43%) in 2021. That’s a lot to ask of a 246-pound outside linebacker as there’s a big difference in squaring up against a 300-pound lineman over and over again versus being a free-roaming linebacker who's getting a running start.

Also, he has been implementing boxing into his regime because, as Parsons put it, he got tired of people punching him in the face. Being stronger and learning better hand-fighting skills will help him on the edge, but another thing that would help is just giving him a little more rest.

When Parsons played in less than 80% of the snaps, the Cowboys were 8-1 with the only loss coming in the meaningless finale game against Washington. But, when he played at least 90% of the snaps, the Cowboys were 1-3. In games where he was overused, the Cowboys struggled, or, to put it another way, when the Cowboys struggled, Parsons was asked to do more. Maybe a little help on the offensive side of the ball might help preserve his health as well.


https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...stats-defensive-line-linebacker-sacks-tackles


Just as an edge rusher, he becomes lead legged by 2/3rds of the season. More linebacking duties and being able to reasonably replaced during games is looking smarter and smarter now.

 

[CCBoy]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

That doesn't even warrant a blah, much less...two. Run along now.

 

[CCBoy]

Actually that's completely untrue the guy was injured around mid season and played through it but he made plays in the playoffs literally he was almost unblockable against Tampa Bay and made at least three or four plays in the 49er game how is it that he plateaued yes he slowed down he was injured pretty bad it looked like a shoulder a knee and I believe in ankle I don't remember what was bothering him but it was a lot so yeah he had to play through some injuries and he still came through and many games all season I remember DeMarcus Ware used to have a lot of 0 stat games lot of players have those games but go back and watch the Tampa Bay and the 49er game in the playoffs and you're gonna see #11 around the quarterback and running back all game like he usually is

Micah Parsons 2022 Stat line 65 Tackles 14 Tackles for loss 13.5 sacks 3 forced fumbles 3 pass Deflections 1 TD

I mean he only had one official sack but he had three passes defense also 16 tackles 3 tackles for loss but if you watch the game he actually chased the quarterback into either a sack by one of our other players or he batted balls down etcetera etc etc

So yes like other players he had some games where he didn't have any official stat line because of injuries and whatnot however he showed up in those games in the playoffs go watch them again you watch him chasing the quarterback into sacks and batting balls down and keeping plays from happening as far as short passes you get tackled right away

So, this shows one took the presented stats and instead chose to believe in the tooth fairy....Carry On or see a recruiter.

 

[blueblood70]

That doesn't even warrant a blah, much less...two. Run along now.

 

[blueblood70]

So, this shows one took the presented stats and instead chose to believe in the tooth fairy....Carry On or see a recruiter.

Actually it doesn't at all seeing some of the best players to ever play in the NFL have zero stat games have games where they had to fight through injuries it had nothing to do with effort or needing to grow and be better it was injury related it was the fact that he was being double and triple teamed at times and he was chasing sacks and other forced errors into other players arms why do you think Fowler and Armstrong and other players had some of their best years in? It's because of Micah Parsons again he fought their injuries but when he wasn't getting stats he literally was creating plays for his teammates and again go look at the playoff games go watch the entire two playoff games and you're gonna see Micah Parsons all over the place meaning when it was time and the biggest games he did show up apparently he was feeling a little better so yes it deserves a whole bunch of blah blah blahs because you're basically trying to create an issue that's not there

 

[CCBoy]

Actually it doesn't at all seeing some of the best players to ever play in the NFL have zero stat games have games where they had to fight through injuries it had nothing to do with effort or needing to grow and be better it was injury related it was the fact that he was being double and triple teamed at times and he was chasing sacks and other forced errors into other players arms why do you think Fowler and Armstrong and other players had some of their best years in? It's because of Micah Parsons again he fought their injuries but when he wasn't getting stats he literally was creating plays for his teammates and again go look at the playoff games go watch the entire two playoff games and you're gonna see Micah Parsons all over the place meaning when it was time and the biggest games he did show up apparently he was feeling a little better so yes it deserves a whole bunch of blah blah blahs because you're basically trying to create an issue that's not there

Spend much time at the casino? Don't...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Those film strips are constantly changing... the posted date that was exactly what was stated by the same gentleman.

Micah Parsons compares 2023 Cowboys defense to 2000 Ravens | UNDISPUTED​

Micah Parsons has some lofty expectations for the Dallas Cowboys this season. During OTAs the defenseman spoke on parallels between 2023 Cowboys defense and 2000 Ravens.​

JUNE 5 • FOX SPORTS

"Micah Parsons will have a Ray Lewis-type impact." – Skip Bayless​

JUNE 8 • FOX SPORTS

It does not say he is going to play off ball LB. He said Micah will have an impact like Lewis "but in a different way."

 

[blueblood70]

Spend much time at the casino? Don't...

never, not betting man, sorry..

 

[AsthmaField]

There are a few things to consider when talking about Micah’s late season “plateau”.

• Around that time the defense started playing things a little bit differently in order to shore up the run game. They were getting gashed against the run and Quinn had to tweak things to slow it down. Even Micah himself talked about having to stop the run in order to “earn” the right to pass rush. That tweak considerably effected Parsons ability to get to the QB. This is why Micah was begging Quinn to draft Mazi Smith and why he was so excited that they did. He knows how much that slowed down the pass rush.
• The cornerback spot opposite Diggs fell apart with injuries and ineffectiveness. This one is simple: The QB can throw the ball quicker and the pass rush didn’t have much time to get there. The QB having the ability to take the snap and find an open guy over there saved a lot of QB from getting hit late in the season. It would have gotten even uglier had Bland not been a miracle pick in the 5th.
• Parsons did have a few aches and pains by the latter half of the season, in large part from having to play a little differently against the run. This probably slowed him down some. He also played an absurd amount of snaps. He needs more rest on run downs, if they can manage it.

Parsons did do more in the playoff games as Quinn had figured out a little bit about how he wanted to play in the secondary. Quinn had used the last few games of the regular season to tinker with the coverage to determine what he wanted to do back there in the playoffs. Once he figured out who he wanted where, the coverage got better and the QB’s we’re having to hold the ball a little longer in the playoffs, allowing Micah to pressure the QB more.

And I will end this post by saying that, as the season wore on, I don’t think I have ever seen offenses as worried about one defender as much as I saw against Micah. It was an absurd amount of double and triple teams that Micah faced week-in-and-week-out. It was very clear that offenses wanted to stop Parsons at all costs. This obviously effected his chances of getting to the QB as well.

 

[Typhus]

I wasn't trying to win squat...that wasn't the effort. To show that Dallas needed Parsons to take yet another step as a team leader and leader of the defense, not just be good. That was what was presented from the start.

Anyone ignoring that or not understanding with all that has been quoted from many sources...just care what the truth is nor what would make this very group of Dallas Cowboys top level good.

Naw, that's still on the obstinate or not understanding...and their choice, not facts.

CC we needed and expected more from MP then should have been placed on a single players shoulders.
Big Burden to carry and endure, MP got worn out, plain and simple.
We have added huge burden relief now with a true 1 tech, I bet MP is loving MS more and more by the day.
If Mazi just shows up and allows free roaming in the back seven for MP and others to exploit than this defense just got extremely nasty from several angles.

 

[AsthmaField]

CC we needed and expected more from MP then should have been placed on a single players shoulders.
Big Burden to carry and endure, MP got worn out, plain and simple.
We have added huge burden relief now with a true 1 tech, I bet MP is loving MS more and more by the day.
If Mazi just shows up and allows free roaming in the back seven for MP and others to exploit than this defense just got extremely nasty from several angles.

Yeah, and in the latter part of the season, big Hankins missed a few games, hurting the ability to slow the run.

With Big Hank and Mazi in the middle, it should change things considerably. Micah should be used more like he was in the early parts of last season when he was racking up sacks and pressures.

 

[Typhus]

Yeah, and in the latter part of the season, big Hankins missed a few games, hurting the ability to slow the run.

With Big Hank and Mazi in the middle, it should change things considerably. Micah should be used more like he was in the early parts of last season when he was racking up sacks and pressures.

That is MPs most effective game.

 

[CCBoy]

It does not say he is going to play off ball LB. He said Micah will have an impact like Lewis "but in a different way."

He has to pull back on some passing plays as a linebacker. That is because it gives different pictures for a variety of coverages, and yes, it does involve Parsons. Don't continuously attempt to change my posts that I quote directly. Your games...

 

[Typhus]

He has to pull back on some passing plays as a linebacker. That is because it gives different pictures for a variety of coverages, and yes, it does involve Parsons. Don't continuously attempt to change my posts that I quote directly. Your games...

We drafted an Overshown to elevate some of the responsibility, but Parsons can basically just do whatever he wants to do, Q doesn't mind.

 

[CCBoy]

We drafted an Overshown to elevate some of the responsibility, but Parsons can basically just do whatever he wants to do, Q doesn't mind.

Overshown is a rook and that part is waiting to fill.