I do think Parsons was the guy all along

[quickccc]

At first, I thought it was nothing more than the usual spin from the front office trying to make themselves look good but the more I see this unfolding, I think that's a fact.

How does a CB help a defense that struggles against the run? Quinn was hired to fix that first and when the Legion of Boom was assembled, SEA already had a solid run defense.

Look at how Quinn devotes his time, he's all about the front 7 because that's where the leaks are.

There wasn't a DL ranked in the top 15 that could help with stopping the run, which is unusual for any draft, so what's the next best thing? A tackling machine MLB. A fast tackling machine MLB.

I don't think the Cowboys get him at 12 if he plays in 2020. His last college game was the Cotton Bowl where he was MVP with 14 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles and he is the first player in Penn State history to lead the team in tackles as a freshman and he only started 1 game. Let that sink in.

If you were apprehensive about this pick, you might want to revisit his last full season at the most famous college for LB's in history. That season was so special with just about every individual honor a player could get that he could afford to opt out in 2020 and still be regarded as a top 10 pick. I think if he plays in 2020, he's the first non QB off the board.

Every great Dallas D had that guy, that MLB that led the team in tackles, made drive stopping plays and lifted the D around him and I am not saying Micah Parsons is that guy but this team has to have that guy so taking him makes perfect sense to me. Because until we do find that guy, we do not field a true contender defense to play in January.

Naah, not me.

If Parson is really your guy that you really wanted all along, ..then why are you even trading down a couple or so spots, that would even risk a chance of losing the coveted guy that you
so called really wanted all along ?

i never bought that.
it just came out sounding good because Parson is now a new welcomed member of the Cowboys.

 

[JoeKing]

Naah, not me.

If Parson is really your guy that you really wanted all along, ..then why are you even trading down a couple or so spots, that would even risk a chance of losing the coveted guy that you
so called really wanted all along ?

i never bought that.
it just came out sounding good because Parson is now a new welcomed member of the Cowboys.

Not welcomed just yet by me. He's going to have to earn my support.

 

[CouchCoach]

You'll get lots of 'likes' with posts like that. But if you look at league facts.... how draft picks are invested, and how contracts are invested...LB and interior d-line players are not valued as much as corner and edge. Teams are spending millions figuring this crap out.

But... we all know they're stupid.

No, I only got 4 Likes and not 1 of them was yours, you owe me.

The price they have to pay is also related to the availability of the players, how many really good CB's are there in the NFL as opposed to DL. It's supply and demand pricing and that's evident in FA every year. Only a few at any given position drives the price up. And available cap affects that as well.

If the CB's are so good, why are the passing numbers climbing and a 300 yard day the norm? That used to be worth talking about but 400 has become the new 300.

 

[JoeKing]

He sits by his window each day, teary eyed and gazing at the ground and muttering to himself "why doesn't Joe like me"?

You're a mod and you openly mock a poster, against the forum rules. @Reality wth?

 

[CouchCoach]

Naah, not me.

If Parson is really your guy that you really wanted all along, ..then why are you even trading down a couple or so spots, that would even risk a chance of losing the coveted guy that you
so called really wanted all along ?

i never bought that.
it just came out sounding good because Parson is now a new welcomed member of the Cowboys.

I felt the same way but I am beginning to see how all of that could have fallen their way. They knew who the 11 and 12 pickers were after and only had to worry that the Bears were coming up for Parsons. Not likely with the GM and HC on the hot seat. I think Fields falling was the key, teams move up for QB's, not LB's.

 

[CouchCoach]

Tough to argue this point. Teams this era are definitely investing their top picks in draft and Cap on edge rushers and CB’s.

Priorities whether we all agree with it or not appear to definitely be evolving to pass happy era.

I think evolving offenses are illustrating there's no clear template for building the best D.

The teams are at the mercy of the available and affordable, based on their limitations, talent.

 

[JoeKing]

Are you kidding me? Mocking you? I am not mocking you in any way, just having fun with that statement. Joe, mod or not, that's what I do here, that's why I am here. Do not take it personally as I was just having fun with you. Evidently, I was having more fun than you. If you want me to remove it, I will.

Remove it, be a man of your word. I take a stand and you mock me. That's just offensive. You should even apologize.

 

[CouchCoach]

Remove it, be a man of your word. I take a stand and you mock me. That's just offensive. You should even apologize.

I am sorry, Joe. Micah really does care about you supporting him.

 

[JoeKing]

I am sorry, Joe. Micah really does care about you supporting him.

Still mocking me, I see. I won't jump on the Micha Parsons bandwagon until he has earned it. That's all there is to it.

 

[JoeKing]

I am sorry, Joe. Micah really does care about you supporting him.

Yes you are!

 

[CouchCoach]

Yes you are!

I know but Parsons likes me better than you.

 

[JoeKing]

I know but Parsons likes me better than you.

He better hate me, I'm his worse nightmare. I'm a fan, he's not fooling.

 

[Manster68]

Whatever.

Emmitt Smith wasn't their first choice. What's the point? Parsons is a beast.

Good thing I wasn't the GM back in 1989. The Dallas Cowboys would have had Tony Mandarich instead of Troy Aikman.

 

[shabazz]

Setting expectations so high for this guy is a mistake.

With the entitled, often lazy “culture” that these young players subscribe to, I haven’t expected most of them to live up to their contracts or hype

Having said that , Dakota Prescott’s performance exceeded his contract.....and then the team turned right around and awarded a contract that greatly exceeds his natural talent or playoff performances.

Expect nothing and hope the team can win the crumbs that are the NFC East

 

[quickccc]

I felt the same way but I am beginning to see how all of that could have fallen their way. They knew who the 11 and 12 pickers were after and only had to worry that the Bears were coming up for Parsons. Not likely with the GM and HC on the hot seat. I think Fields falling was the key, teams move up for QB's, not LB's.

Apparently they felt one of the B-group guys they’d like to have, would still be there, should they feel the urge to move only a couple of spots, but again if Parsons was THE guy they ever so
wanted and targeted along, I don’t see how they would have ever dare attempted to move down and risk losing, him … it’s not just trying to guess if a Philly or NY Giants would take them,
but we never know if another NFL team could’ve attempted to make a trade up to take Parson themselves.

Albeit the Cowboys just gambled that both Philly/Giants never coveted Parsons themselves, and they gambled that a Philly or NYG would not make a trade with another NFL team that would’ve wanted Parsons.
I’ll also assume there had to be a player on their board that they had to be prepared to take if the event that Parson would’ve been swooped up.

Anyone’s guess who the next player would have been if Parson was gone off the board before the Cowboys pick?

If Horn Jr. was gone, then we would’ve had Patrick Surtain as next up., Parson ?
And I don’t believe in the concept of since we need help with our run defense that we should bypass the best graded defensive player on our board for the panic of an area, that’s
sounds like the concept of reaching for need for the sake of a position over the better player.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think evolving offenses are illustrating there's no clear template for building the best D.

The teams are at the mercy of the available and affordable, based on their limitations, talent.

As always we should follow the money trail which includes priorities in draft , contracts and salary cap.

Where are teams exerting their higher picks and contracts on defense? It doesn’t look like there’s a higher priority than CB’s and or edge rushers.

It’s a valid argument T-RO pointed out that I hadn’t thought of in that way before.

 

[Big_D]

Our LBs stunk. LVE can’t stay on the field and Smith hobbles around avoiding blocks, taking bad angles, can’t shed a block for anything. If this team wasn’t serious about getting this defense where it needs to be, they would’ve thought Smith and Vander Esch were fine. That would’ve been sad and pathetic. So they not only draft Parsons at 12, but then Jabril Cox later on, on top of signing Neal in FA.. that really tells you their plan all along to upgrade a terrible LB corps. And it was very much needed.

 

[T-RO]

No, I only got 4 Likes and not 1 of them was yours, you owe me.

The price they have to pay is also related to the availability of the players, how many really good CB's are there in the NFL as opposed to DL. It's supply and demand pricing and that's evident in FA every year. Only a few at any given position drives the price up. And available cap affects that as well.

If the CB's are so good, why are the passing numbers climbing and a 300 yard day the norm? That used to be worth talking about but 400 has become the new 300.

You owe me more. Here I am donating my time like this.

The Rams gave up 100 fewer passing yards per game in '20 than the Falcons. That's why you pay corners and pass rushers.

 

[kazzd58]

Your post was wack. I don't like Parsons. I will stand by that until he makes me like him.

hold up!! My post is wack but yet your doing exactly what my whole initial post stated which is, Stand on that‍♂️……. that was a weak comeback Parsons don’t know u talking about make me?? oh god my stomach!!!

 

[CouchCoach]

Our LBs stunk. LVE can’t stay on the field and Smith hobbles around avoiding blocks, taking bad angles, can’t shed a block for anything. If this team wasn’t serious about getting this defense where it needs to be, they would’ve thought Smith and Vander Esch were fine. That would’ve been sad and pathetic. So they not only draft Parsons at 12, but then Jabril Cox later on, on top of signing Neal in FA.. that really tells you their plan all along to upgrade a terrible LB corps. And it was very much needed.

I think them getting Quinn affected the board. Everyone talks about the Legion of Boom but the key to that defense was Bobby Wagner and KJ Wright was icing.

When we played them there, Wagner was out and that affected our game plan calling to rely on the run game. No teams tried to run the ball on them when Wagner was in. He had a good DL in front of him but he was the best MLB in the game back then.

Quinn must stop the run and what player was there in this draft better to do that than a record setting tackler from Penn St.? Horn or Surtain going to stop the run? Tackling is not their strength but it is Parsons' strength and ask any DC the value of a tackling machine MLB. Ask Urlacher's, Kuechly's, Lewis' or Singletary's DC's. I am not saying he is a HOFer, but he was the best answer to the question "how do they stop the run" in this draft. There also was no DL as highly rated.