I don't agree with the Romo selection

[conner01]

Well, first off, I only have to name 1, since Brees and Bulger are already on the team.

Second, I just think you have to go with a guy who has been the starter for the vast majority of the season.

So, I would say Eli Manning or Michael Vick.

AND PLEASE HEAR ME. Romo has outplayed BOTH of them. And I WOULDN'T TRADE ROMO FOR EITHER OF THEM.

So, again, I don't want to be misunderstood. I'm a Romo fan.

I just don't think you can give it to a guy who has started 8 of his teams 14 games.

you say romo has out played both of them, but they should get in because they've played all the games. never mind the fact they've played them poorly. based on that if a guy came in and led the league in rushing with 8 games he should'nt go in to the pro bowl. it should go to a guy who has rushed for less yards because he's played more.now i get it

 

[Wrangler87]

NFC QB's suck, Romo deserved to get in over the other crap QB's in the NFL. If Mcnabb would have been healthy then he would have made it over Romo but hes the only who would have deserved it over romo

Compare Romo's short season with McNabb's short season and see if you still think McNabb would deserve it over Romo.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Romo getting into the Pro Bowl may be more of an indictment of the QB play in the League.

I think that pretty much sums it up

and rcadlw, I hear you, but what you're saying is akin to giving the company raise to the more tenured man, over the lesser tenured who's doing a better job

 

[Big Country]

Can you name two qbs in the NFC that deserve the Pro Bowl more than Romo?

don't think it could be said any better!

 

[rcaldw]

you say romo has out played both of them, but they should get in because they've played all the games. never mind the fact they've played them poorly. based on that if a guy came in and led the league in rushing with 8 games he should'nt go in to the pro bowl. it should go to a guy who has rushed for less yards because he's played more.now i get it

I've already said, that I retract, after looking at what the choices were, but your reasoning here breaks down.

Romo isn't leading the league in passing yards
He isn't leading the league in TD passes.
He has a great QB rating.

A QB could have a great QB rating after 1 game. Would that qualify?

So, if a runner could somehow lead the league in rushing yards in 8 games, then I think he made a case for himself. But a QB rating can be very deceiving after just 8 games. That is half a season.

Remember how Rex Grossman started the year?

Once again, though, after looking at the possibilities, Romo is a pretty good choice, 8 games or not.

 

[ravidubey]

Before you jump on me, please hear me in context.

1. Tony Romo has played outstanding football
2. Without Tony Romo we would not be in the position we are in, PERIOD.
3. If Tony Romo had played the entire season as his current level, he is a pro bowler hands down.

But, to me, this represents what I have come to hate about the modern NFL. It is a stat driven, popularity driven, personality driven, league that evaluates players in a superficial way.

Does anyone realize that David Carr is in the top half of QB's in QB rating? Have you watched David Carr play? The guy probably won't be back in Houston next year.

Stats can lie, ESPECIALLY at the QB position.

In this case, Romo's stats aren't a lie. He has played fantastic. But how do you put a guy in the pro bowl who has barely played HALF A SEASON????

I'm proud we have a Dallas Cowboys player going at that position.
I'm proud we seem to have a legitimate QB in Dallas again.
I'm proud of what he has done for our football team.

But I don't agree with this choice, this year. Ok, destroy me

I agree with you regarding stats.

So if you had to pick three QB's from the NFC that you had to rely on for a playoff run who would they be right now? Brees I'll give you, but Hasselbeck and Bulger? Seneca Wallace did as well as Hesselbeck this year and Bulger has a losing record. Romo turned this team around and is playing explosive football.

The one stat I respect regarding QB's is yards per attempt, and in that one stat Romo leads the entire league by a mile. This with the same OL that was being panned when Drew Bledsoe was QB. He's also a cool, clutch performer that has the rest of his team playing at a high level because they believe in him and the offense.

 

[panchucko]

Well, I am glad I got my Romo jersey before the price sky rockets.
Now that he is a pro-bowler and all.

I hope he gets Super Bowl MVP too.

 

[Kaika]

So what's being said here is that If McNabb were healthy ,he would most probably have a better Passer rating than Romo at this time.




Sorry, I can't agree with that argument.

Woulda shoulda coulda, I'f Bledsoe played better ,He would have had a shot over Breese.

I can't take it away from T.R. with a lot of conjecture.

As of right now he deserves to be there.

 

[Viper]

Bledsoe started this year. He wasn’t going to take this team anywhere near the playoffs. Romo replaced him, most thought we were giving up on this season. Yet he stepped in and made this team a contender. Without him we fall to the wayside. It isn’t the 8 starts that you should concentrate on; it’s the quality of those starts. What Romo has accomplished with the Cowboys thus far has been nothing short of Pro-Bowl form.

He has outplayed everyone in the NFC, excluding Brees. He is rated second in the NFL. I’ll agree it is too early to crown him, however this year Romo has shined. He deserves the accolades he is receiving, he has proven himself on the field of battle.

 

[rcaldw]

I think that pretty much sums it up

and rcadlw, I hear you, but what you're saying is akin to giving the company raise to the more tenured man, over the lesser tenured who's doing a better job

Not exactly summer. What I was saying, is how many games does a QB need to play before it is deemed a body of work worthy of pro bowl selection?

I think that is a fair question.

QB play is not just about stats, its is primarily about leading your team to wins. If you have a guy starting every game at that position, all season long, and his team has already clinched home field advantage throughout. (Rex Grossman) Doesn't that deserve consideration?

I think Grossman, though, is that perfect example of BUSDRIVER, and that is why he didn't get the spot.

So, again, Romo is a good choice, 8 games or not.

 

[Joe_Fan]

So, I would say Eli Manning or Michael Vick.

That's a joke, right?

 

[Wrangler87]

I've already said, that I retract, after looking at what the choices were, but your reasoning here breaks down.

Romo isn't leading the league in passing yards
He isn't leading the league in TD passes.
He has a great QB rating.

A QB could have a great QB rating after 1 game. Would that qualify?

So, if a runner could somehow lead the league in rushing yards in 8 games, then I think he made a case for himself. But a QB rating can be very deceiving after just 8 games. That is half a season.

Remember how Rex Grossman started the year?

Once again, though, after looking at the possibilities, Romo is a pretty good choice, 8 games or not.

You cannot expect him to catch up on Yards and TD's with his late start. The only comparable stats are QB Rating, scoring percentage of his drives, and his starting QB record.

All of those are superb.

 

[rcaldw]

I agree with you regarding stats.

So if you had to pick three QB's from the NFC that you had to rely on for a playoff run who would they be right now? Brees I'll give you, but Hasselbeck and Bulger? Seneca Wallace did as well as Hesselbeck this year and Bulger has a losing record. Romo turned this team around and is playing explosive football.

The one stat I respect regarding QB's is yards per attempt, and in that one stat Romo leads the entire league by a mile. This with the same OL that was being panned when Drew Bledsoe was QB. He's also a cool, clutch performer that has the rest of his team playing at a high level because they believe in him and the offense.

Again, I'm 100% with you on Romo's play. He has been outstanding. I was simpy asking how large a body of work (at the QB position) needs to be before you are considered for the Pro Bowl.

 

[sago1]

I was surprised Romo made it but I agree with it and voted for him several times. If you ask why, take a look at the other QB options in the NFC who played longer then he did this year. Eli Manning, Vick, Campbell, Brad Johnson, etc., I think not. After Brees, Romo was the best QB in the NFL admittedly playing in only 8 games. But to go with one of the lesser QBs like Manning & Vick would also make a mockery of the game, so you go with best option. Since fan voting only counts 1/3, that means an lot of NFL players and coaches also thought a lot of him. I remember Gruden after Romo and the Cowboys thoroughly beaten said he thought he was watching (Troy) Aikman out there. Not much higher praise then that.

Having said that, am I still concerned that the other foot will drop with Romo and the answer is yes. I'll feel a lot better when the 07 season starts and he continues to perform at the level we've seen in so many games this season. Then I and most of the football public will be convinced. By the way, did you see that Rivers of SD also got in as the 3rd best QB over Brady; now that's a shocker.

 

[rcaldw]

You cannot expect him to catch up on Yards and TD's with his late start. The only comparable stats are QB Rating, scoring percentage of his drives, and his starting QB record.

All of those are superb.

Agreed. But those could also be stats that are ahead of the league after 2 starts. Agreed? I mean hypothetically, you could have the highest QB rating, lead the league in scoring pct of your drives and be undefeated after 2 starts.

Would that merit the pro bowl?

No, there has to be enough body of work to be considered. The NFL thought he had enough starts to merit it. At first, I didn't. But then I looked at what the other choices were, and other than an argument for Rex Grossman (which would probably fail), I think Romo was the right choice.

So, again, I retract

 

[Wrangler87]

Agreed. But those could also be stats that are ahead of the league after 2 starts. Agreed? I mean hypothetically, you could have the highest QB rating, lead the league in scoring pct of your drives and be undefeated after 2 starts.

Would that merit the pro bowl?

No, there has to be enough body of work to be considered. The NFL thought he had enough starts to merit it. At first, I didn't. But then I looked at what the other choices were, and other than an argument for Rex Grossman (which would probably fail), I think Romo was the right choice.

So, again, I retract

The league requires a minimum number of pass attempts which increases along with the weeks of the season.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Not exactly summer. What I was saying, is how many games does a QB need to play before it is deemed a body of work worthy of pro bowl selection?

I think that is a fair question.

great question

one I can't answer, so I have to go w/ voting based on performance over tenure, and 8 games is a good length of time

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Aaron Brooks should replace that guy Rony Tomo.

 

[windward]

He's benefitting from a down-in-the-mouth year for NFC QBs. No one disputes that.

True. Do you think, though thyat Romo could eventually be a perennial pro bowler for us?

 

[SultanOfSix]

I feel like I've been cheated out of five games. That's the only reason he doesn't deserve it.