I don't feel Gregory suspension will feel significant after camp

[zrinkill]

Cannot call a pick a bust after 1 year. No justifying that bro.

When you have an addiction problem with something thats non addictive ....... you re not gonna make it in the NFL.

If they are counting on him ......... they are stupid.

We will be going DE in next years draft.

 

[FaSho]

This is why I'm not buying any hype with this team anymore. I can't respect a team playing defense just giving away yards. Spare me with the bend don't break crap. Pittsburgh had a weak secondary and were aggressive all year. I hate this team sometimes

It just seems like, our defense is the same every year, regardless of the coach.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I am not sure why we are in semi-panic mode at DE in part because of Randy Gregory suspension. Not sure how Gregory was handed starting job because he certainly didn't earn it. Dallas is going to camp with alot of young talent and I like Marinelli coaching ability with unknown young players. I would not trade Leary or sign FA until you know what they have in: Russell, Mayowa, Irving & Charles Tapper. Here is fearless prediction: Jack Crawford will unseat Randy Gregory as starting DE coming out of training camp and thus making Gregory suspension insignificant.

What kind of young talent are you referring to? A 4th and 3rd round pick? Give it a rest. Crawford is not a starting caliber DE either. Just face reality. We are screwed for at least the first 4 games and then beyond Lawrence we have no one that has proven anything in this league. And who has Marinelli ever turned into a rushing demon on this team? I havent seen it. And lets not forget that there is no longer anyone worth double teaming with the Kraken gone.

You guys keep making up these fantasies in your head about the Dline. Its bad. Just face reality.

 

[conner01]

I dont think people are in semi panic mode because of the suspension.
I think it's because he's already failed at least 4 tests in only his first year when all eyes were on him after the combine failure. Why will he change now. Next its a 10 game suspension and a wasted 2nd round pick.

On top of that having Dlaw suspended also. I think at any position you have two players suspended, or injured at the same time it is a concern. And more so when the guys who will have to step up are unproven
I think by the second half of the season the dline will be playing solid football. I think the overall talent is there, just need to develope and that's a slow process at dline in most cases.
Gregory can be an important part of the dline but he has some serious soul searching and proving to do

 

[CowboyRoy]

George Selvie comes immediately to mind.

6 sacks? Is that the standard for you?

 

[Stash]

Cannot call a pick a bust after 1 year. No justifying that bro.

In Gregory's case, where he came in with a failed test and failed multiple others? Where he's one more failed test from missing a year? Where he's now a player the team can't possibly depend on?

I think it's very accurate to call the pick a bust. More apt than any other description in fact.

 

[The Quest for Six]

I keep hearing about these amazing coaching jobs that Marinelli does with these no-name players, but it never shows up during the season. I like the 4-3 defense, but his system seems outdated at times.

amazing how great players make a great coach.........

 

[Stash]

I keep hearing about these amazing coaching jobs that Marinelli does with these no-name players, but it never shows up during the season. I like the 4-3 defense, but his system seems outdated at times.

His 'Rushmen' haven't ranked higher than 26th in the league since he's been here. Time to stop allowing the guy to live on past reputation and start judging him on his current work.

He's gotten plenty of resources invested and the results continue to be disappointing.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Anytime you have a top 5 talent at a position of need who will have the 2nd of his first two years in the league impacted.... It's not ideal.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let's don't kid ourselves here.....Gregory is the only one with potential to be a elite pass rusher. Don't get sucked up in the measurables of these guys. These guys are the Jeremy Minceys and the George Selvies of the world.

 

[Stash]

I am not sure why we are in semi-panic mode at DE in part because of Randy Gregory suspension.

That would be because the team was poor rushing the passer in 2015 and lost two players from that group, doing very little to bring in any proven pass rushers to replace them. Because one of the biggest problem areas on the team got weaker, not stronger.

Not sure how Gregory was handed starting job because he certainly didn't earn it.

By default. When the other options walk out the door, you have to turn to somebody.

Dallas is going to camp with alot of young talent and I like Marinelli coaching ability with unknown young players.

You're half right. They are young. But any mention of "talent" is wishful thinking at this point until any of them show it. And again, Marinelli's 'Rushmen' have finished no better than 26th in sacks since he's been here.

I would not trade Leary or sign FA until you know what they have in: Russell, Mayowa, Irving & Charles Tapper.

And by then it may be too late. Nobody is waiting around for the Cowboys to decide what they do. Players and teams will move on and make decisions that are best for them.

Here is fearless prediction: Jack Crawford will unseat Randy Gregory as starting DE coming out of training camp and thus making Gregory suspension insignificant.

Not much of a limb there. Anyone is going to "unseat Randy Gregory coming out of training camp" as he's going to serve a 4-game suspension no matter what. As for Jack Crawford, he's a journeyman player who nobody else even wanted in free agency with what? 6 career sacks?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

His 'Rushmen' haven't ranked higher than 26th in the league since he's been here. Time to stop allowing the guy to live on past reputation and start judging him on his current work.

He's gotten plenty of resources invested and the results continue to be disappointing.

its not like he's had premiere talent to work with. His defensive units have overachieved. I'm not even a fan of his but his unit despite its lack of talent or experience has overachieved while the offense has been inconsistent and uneven.

 

[Stash]

its not like he's had premiere talent to work with. His defensive units have overachieved. I'm not even a fan of his but his unit despite its lack of talent or experience has overachieved while the offense has been inconsistent and uneven.

I think that's a myth. Last year, he had Lawrence, a player the team gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick to get. He also had Randy Gregory, considered the top pass rusher in the draft (who ended up with 0 sacks), as well as Greg Hardy, the top pass rusher available and a 15-sack, Pro Bowl talent.

And his group still underachieved.

Time to face facts.

 

[Aven8]

It just seems like, our defense is the same every year, regardless of the coach.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

He's on pace to lose more game checks than tackles he has made.

I have pretty much labeled him a bust at this point and any production we get out of him is a bonus.







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[Yakuza Rich]

We have a terrible defensive personnel philosophy. For years we have thought it was 1995 and you just need cover corners that can't tackle and we could go cheap on the safeties. The game and the passing schematics has changed. Lots of short throws and teams are forcing safeties to do a lot of different things. A couple of months ago Louis Riddick said that by far and away safety was the worst coached position in the NFL. So it doesn't surprise me that offenses have changed their schematics to put a lot of pressure on poorly coached and often 1-dimensional safeties. And we have yet to really catch on to that because we seem to like to make the same mistake 10 years in a row before we FINALLY catch on.

The good thing with Marinelli is that he prefers the zone and is not going after those cover corners that can't tackle and don't play zone well. That's how guys like Terrance Mitchell come into the fold. Unfortunately, we are kinda stuck with Claiborne and Carr. The problem with Marinelli is that he has never been a coach that wants the elite athletes at safety. Hopefully that is changing with Byron's move to FS and perhaps this Frazier kid can play because it's certain that Wilcox and Church can't.






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[DallasDomination]

I remember how excited we were when the presumed best pass rusher in the draft fell to our lap in the 2nd round.

Now my expectations for him are almost zero. If he comes into camp with the added weight and strength and the right mind set I'll start to care again. Until then I fully expect him to be a non factor even when he returns.

 

[waving monkey]

I keep hearing about these amazing coaching jobs that Marinelli does with these no-name players, but it never shows up during the season. I like the 4-3 defense, but his system seems outdated at times.

I hope you liked that 2014 season I hope you liked it very much

 

[waving monkey]

It is an outdated system, you pretty much have to try to out-talent teams because they can't seem to scheme their way into sacks or picks

ya that 2014 season was just loaded

 

[LocimusPrime]

I am not sure why we are in semi-panic mode at DE in part because of Randy Gregory suspension. Not sure how Gregory was handed starting job because he certainly didn't earn it. Dallas is going to camp with alot of young talent and I like Marinelli coaching ability with unknown young players. I would not trade Leary or sign FA until you know what they have in: Russell, Mayowa, Irving & Charles Tapper. Here is fearless prediction: Jack Crawford will unseat Randy Gregory as starting DE coming out of training camp and thus making Gregory suspension insignificant.

Cause they all suck. First, none of our DEs are starting quality DEs, they are good back up types ( second and third tier guys). Second, " young" means nothing without talent and production. Our 9 DEs have combined for a total of 14 sacks. Lolololol. Third, ever year we get " hyped up" about our awesome DLine picks who " shine" in camp. Boatright, Whaley, Ben bass ect. We need to realize if they where UDFAs, late round picks, or on other teams practice squads, there probably was a reason. I'm tired of dumpster diving, I want first round DLine talent and Prowbowl free agents signed. Don't tell me there's a salary cap, it's a myth and every year it goes up 10 million.