I don't feel Gregory suspension will feel significant after camp

[Plankton]

No you can't. His 2nd year in the league you cant call him a bust.

Are you saying then that you can't call Johnny Manziel a bust? His fleas were apparent in year 2?

 

[DFWJC]

The Lawrence suspension was the big hit.
Gregory may not even be a starter the 1st half of 2016

 

[Stash]

No you can't. His 2nd year in the league you cant call him a bust.

Maybe you can't. But that doesn't stop the rest of the world.

At this point, I'm watching a young fool flush his future down the toilet.

 

[Stash]

Like I stated above, I'm not a big Maranelli fan. Didn't like Kiffins lack of aggressiveness and I feel like Maranelli is following that same blueprint. I wouldn't be upset at a coaching change there. Fan of the guy but not of his scheme that I think may be outdated.

I tend to agree with this.

I'm not sure how much we are suppose to blame Maranelli for his defensive end unit either being too young in Lawrence and Gregory or a Hardy being rusty a year removed from football or Tyrone Crawford being injured.

Are these excuses? Maybe. I think they are valid though. This was always a make or break year for Maranelli IMO. His defensive end unit may have been underwhelming but his defensive unit good enough to win despite getting NOTHING from the offense.

A little bit of both I think, valid points and excuses.

I'm not sure how much premier talent Maranelli has on the defensive line. I don't look at those guys and see players giving up or not playing.

I don't give coaches much credit for players "not giving up". That's the bare minimum of their job. Nothing gets a coach fired quicker than his players quitting on him.

I give coaches more credit for putting those players in the best position to be successful. That should be their biggest accomplishment and next to winning and losing how they're mainly judged.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I keep hearing about these amazing coaching jobs that Marinelli does with these no-name players, but it never shows up during the season. I like the 4-3 defense, but his system seems outdated at times.

Selvie, Mincey, and JCrawford. If you go over to pfr.com and look up his Bears and TB squads you will see more of the same. Kiffin started the reputation for them with Randle in Minnesota who was a perennial all pro but Marinelli wasn't there for that.

 

[jnday]

He's gotten some decent years out of guys no one expected. He made Hatcher a Pro Bowler.....he leaves here and looks pedestrian. He had Bruce Carter and Durant looking good. George Selvie had some years. I know we hate Hayden here but even as bad as he was at times Maranelli made him a serviceable linemen in this league.

Selvie was a McClay find. Carter was drafted for the 3-4 defense end really never played to his potential. If anything, allowing Hayden to stat on the roster is a strike against Marinelli as a coach. Hayden hurt the defense for much too long.

 

[jnday]

Selvie, Mincey, and JCrawford. If you go over to pfr.com and look up his Bears and TB squads you will see more of the same. Kiffin started the reputation for them with Randle in Minnesota who was a perennial all pro but Marinelli wasn't there for that.

Selvie came of the street as a Will McClay find. Mincey and Crawford are nothing to brag on. I think time has passed him by.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Selvie was a McClay find. Carter was drafted for the 3-4 defense end really never played to his potential. If anything, allowing Hayden to stat on the roster is a strike against Marinelli as a coach. Hayden hurt the defense for much too long.

I'm speaking on him getting guys to play over their heads and as bad as Hayden was he played far better than his potential.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Selvie came of the street as a Will McClay find. Mincey and Crawford are nothing to brag on. I think time has passed him by.

It's not about giving credit for these finds. It's about what he got from them and what he was given. The Minceys and Crawforrds are nothing to brag about but that works in his favor being thst is what he was given.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Only thing we have on the dine is questions and hope.

 

[JohnsKey19]

It's hard to consider Gregory's suspension significant when he's yet to do anything of note other than fail multiple drug tests.

The Lawrence suspension is the real killer.

 

[BAT]

If you have DLaw at RDE who is playing LDE?

Cowboys have talked ad nauseum this offseason about moving Ty Crawford back to LDE.

 

[Kolemmitt]

Cowboys have talked ad nauseum this offseason about moving Ty Crawford back to LDE.

Actually, reporters have talked about it simply because DLaw may miss some time, which will likely be reduced. The coaches have only talked about it being a possibility, and only for a short time. Collins is good, but there is no way they are expecting a 3rd rounder rookie to start 16 games at the all important 3-tech. I am not aware of any one mentioning it as a full-time move. If Crawford does move out side it means that the other Crawford, Russell, and Irving have shown they can't hold down LDE until DLaw gets back.

The RDE spot will be a battle between Mayowa, Tapper, McAdoo(long shot), and Gregory when he returns. I think if he shows that he can be trusted Gregory is still the long term starter, but Mayowa has the most experience and has been a pet project of Coach Marinelli.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Cannot call a pick a bust after 1 year. No justifying that bro.

Yeah I agree, I think this is all very premature. Not saying he has lived up to things off the field but he was very close to the QB several times last year and with his frame nobody will benefit more from being in an NFL weight room that Gregory.

For me he gets every benefit of the doubt until he screws it all up off the field and is gone but on the field I think he can be an exceptional player.

 

[BAT]

Actually, reporters have talked about it simply because DLaw may miss some time, which will likely be reduced. The coaches have only talked about it being a possibility, and only for a short time. Collins is good, but there is no way they are expecting a 3rd rounder rookie to start 16 games at the all important 3-tech. I am not aware of any one mentioning it as a full-time move. If Crawford does move out side it means that the other Crawford, Russell, and Irving have shown they can't hold down LDE until DLaw gets back.

The RDE spot will be a battle between Mayowa, Tapper, McAdoo(long shot), and Gregory when he returns. I think if he shows that he can be trusted Gregory is still the long term starter, but Mayowa has the most experience and has been a pet project of Coach Marinelli.

RDE is too integral to the pass rush and success of the D to not give the best pass rushing DE on the team a shot at competing. It would be a huge mismangement of resources. The LDE spot has more run stopping duties and can be more easily manned by: Tapper, Russell, Irving, the Crawfords

Mayowa, McAdoo and Gregory are going to have to earn that starting spot, and rightfully so.

 

[Jstopper]

Are you saying then that you can't call Johnny Manziel a bust? His fleas were apparent in year 2?

Manziel actually increased his game his 2nd season he looked better and he actually started some games. But how would we see his fleas in the off-season BEFORE his second season even started. As you are trying to compare to Gregory

 

[Jstopper]

Maybe you can't. But that doesn't stop the rest of the world.

At this point, I'm watching a young fool flush his future down the toilet.

No real football person in their right mind would call a player a bust after their 1st season when the 2nd season hasn't even started.

 

[Stash]

No real football person in their right mind would call a player a bust after their 1st season when the 2nd season hasn't even started.

You go ahead and tell yourself that.

The fact is that this bonehead reaffirmed the fact that 31 teams in the league and their "football people" passed on him.

That's the definition of a bust.

 

[Plankton]

Manziel actually increased his game his 2nd season he looked better and he actually started some games. But how would we see his fleas in the off-season BEFORE his second season even started. As you are trying to compare to Gregory

Manziel was a train wreck off the field - this was seen well ahead of his second season. Gregory lacks the intelligence or self discipline to stay off of marijuana - a train wreck in a different way than Manziel.

To this point, Gregory failed multiple drug tests at Nebraska, failed a drug test at his job interview (NFL Combine), and then proceeded to fail three more drug tests as a member of the Cowboys. I think it's pretty safe to say that Gregory can be called a bust, and have that viewpoint be considered valid. He's not exactly providing much evidence to the contrary.

Just as one could feel confident in calling Manziel a bust after his rookie season. Somehow, if Gregory wasn't a Cowboy, I doubt that your view on him would be the same.

 

[Jstopper]

You go ahead and tell yourself that.

The fact is that this bonehead reaffirmed the fact that 31 teams in the league and their "football people" passed on him.

That's the definition of a bust.

Okay they passed on him in the 1st round. As if we are the only team that had him on our board yeah okay. And no that's not the definition of a bust. We shall see who is right once Gregory is back on the field.