I think Callahan is HC in waiting

[Chocolate Lab]

If Garrett goes next year, the Walrus will be your new head coach.

ray:

 

[Idgit]

ray:

I think you and I are just never going to agree on a Dallas coaching candidate. It's weird, because I agree with almost all of your other takes on every other topic, too.

I like Coach Walrus, but I'd much rather see us bring in some new blood if Garrett doesn't actually work out.

 

[Risen Star]

ray:

The only plus to that IMO would be that I think Jerry would have to make some Parcells-like concessions to get him in here. So less Jerry is of course good.

But I wouldn't like bringing in another old guy looking for one last hurrah. It'd be nice to find the next great head coach rather than a retread.

 

[Risen Star]

I think you and I are just never going to agree on a Dallas coaching candidate. It's weird, because I agree with almost all of your other takes on every other topic, too.

I like Coach Walrus, but I'd much rather see us bring in some new blood if Garrett doesn't actually work out.

If Garrett wins 7 or 8 games this year and gets fired I will not consider him a failure as an NFL head coach. I will recognize the situation he was in here and his inability to overcome that doesn't automatically make him unable to coach a team with a sane front office where he has a proper foundation to succeed.

The writing's on the wall though. We all know he's getting fired in January.

 

[jterrell]

I don't think any team, much less Dallas, is going to go all-in on Marinelli after the way his DET tenure ended. That guy's a career coordinator now.

Lovie Smith, though, teamed with Marinelli as DC, makes a lot of sense if we're looking to make a change next season. Problem with that, though, is we'll still need a new OC, and Lovie's track record in that department is not very good. I guess Callahan could step in there, but if Garrett's fired, it's probably going to be in large part due to disappointment with the offensive team in the first place.

Did you read my post?

I said I think Marinelli is the 'interim' coach if Garrett gets fired.
Kiffen has never wanted a head job and Callahan is too controversial.
Easier to go with Marinelli. I do not think he gets the gig long term unless we start poorly then kill it.

I agree Lovie would make sense however and that is a candidate I neglected. Good point. But that would be in the off-season not in season.

 

[Idgit]

...The writing's on the wall though. We all know he's getting fired in January.

I don't think so. But then, you and I think this team has lost the last two years for very different reasons. Not upgrading the OG positions isn't a big deal to me, at all. And the moves we have made this offseason are the types of moves I thought were needed and likely (I don't agree with everything that was done, but I think it was done for the same reasons I think we were losing big games in the first place). If the moves are even moderately successful in curbing turnovers and improving red zone play, we're very likely a playoff team.

If they're not, I agree that there's a good chance Garrett is fired and goes on to be at least relatively successful elsewhere.

 

[KJJ]

Bill Belichick flopped in Cleveland. He was flopping in New England too until Tom Brady arrived.

True Brady saved Belichick but the big difference between him and Saban is Belichick has always coached in the NFL. Belichick started coaching in the NFL in 79 and had great success as the Giants DC helping NY win 2 SB's. Other than 5 years with the Browns having limited success as their DC and 2 seasons with the Dolphins as their HC Saban has spent his entire coaching career in college. He started in 1970 as a college coach. A college coach is what he is and that's what he enjoys. If a coach isn't cut out for the pro game it's not going to work.

 

[Idgit]

Did you read my post?

I said I think Marinelli is the 'interim' coach if Garrett gets fired.
Kiffen has never wanted a head job and Callahan is too controversial.
Easier to go with Marinelli. I do not think he gets the gig long term unless we start poorly then kill it.

I agree Lovie would make sense however and that is a candidate I neglected. Good point. But that would be in the off-season not in season.

Ah, no, I didn't read it carefully. As an interim, yeah, Marinelli probably makes the most sense. It wouldn't be Kiffin, and Callahan would likely be tarred with the same brush that got Garrett fired.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think you and I are just never going to agree on a Dallas coaching candidate. It's weird, because I agree with almost all of your other takes on every other topic, too.

I like Coach Walrus, but I'd much rather see us bring in some new blood if Garrett doesn't actually work out.

Romo doesn't have much time left, especially after this year. Why hope we hit on some guy when we can get someone we already know is a great coach? The guy got Matt Hasselbeck to a Superbowl... Matt Freaking Hasselbeck.

As for the age, we just hired a 73 year old to run our defense, for Gawd's sake.

 

[jterrell]

I don't think so. But then, you and I think this team has lost the last two years for very different reasons. Not upgrading the OG positions isn't a big deal to me, at all. And the moves we have made this offseason are the types of moves I thought were needed and likely (I don't agree with everything that was done, but I think it was done for the same reasons I think we were losing big games in the first place). If the moves are even moderately successful in curbing turnovers and improving red zone play, we're very likely a playoff team.

If they're not, I agree that there's a good chance Garrett is fired and goes on to be at least relatively successful elsewhere.

Garrett didn't just walk in the door 2 years ago. He's been here plenty long enough with offensive control to get more out of this offense than he has. IF he gets fired it is WELL-DESERVED by NFL standards. He's been in war rooms for years and had a say in free agent acquisitions. He's had FULL offensive control until now. No matter how much anyone dislikes Jones only the mentally insane would argue he gave his head coach zero say in anything for years. Jerry doesn't now and has never worked that way.

But I do believe Garrett's best work is ahead of him. He needed experience and he has certainly been getting it. It would be nice to see that benefit us for years to come and not be a waste but it is what it is. We can't tread water forever.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Nope.

I think if Garrett doesn't make the playoffs this year, it's Lovie Smith's turn.

Remember, Jerry wanted him back when Parcells retired but Chicago had him under contract. The Bears knew this and IIRC, quadrupled Smith's salary.

Now you have Kiffin and Marinelli on the defense.






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[Ratmatt]

If he is the next head coach,we're in trouble!Oh,I'm sorry,we're already in trouble.

 

[Ratmatt]

lovie smith or nick saban is our head coach in waiting.

Nick Saban would never take this job.

 

[Bleu Star]

Another Bill may be the future Head Coach in Dallas.

Put the anointing oil away please.

 

[Ratmatt]

Nick Saban ain't turning down THE Dallas Cowboys. I'm sorry I know Bama is a good gig but NFL is still the NFL.

Yes, I agree the best scenario is for Garrett to succeed and be our coach for the next decade....that would be ideal! But I don't think it happens, team is too flawed yet the Super Bowl expectations still remain. That's a bad combo.

Nick Saban isn't taking any NFL job where he doesn't have total control of personnel.He doesn't have to.So if you believe that Saban would do that,or that Jerry would give him total control of personnel,well you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Idgit]

Romo doesn't have much time left, especially after this year. Why hope we hit on some guy when we can get someone we already know is a great coach? The guy got Matt Hasselbeck to a Superbowl... Matt Freaking Hasselbeck.

As for the age, we just hired a 73 year old to run our defense, for Gawd's sake.

In my defense, I didn't like the old guy DC hire, either.

Good point on Romo, though. And Holmgren does have a great working relationship with Jerry.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If Garrett goes next year, the Walrus will be your new head coach.

This is the most logical outcome of those being tossed around. Jerry and Holmgren are great friends and Holmgren would know how to get the most out of Romo and this offense.

As for Garrett, dude better make the playoffs and have a good showing. Just making the playoffs and then getting hammered 47-3 aint going to cut it. If we are one and done, it better be a last second loss to a legit SB team, not some wildcard scrub.

 

[TNCowboy]

Nick Saban ain't turning down THE Dallas Cowboys. I'm sorry I know Bama is a good gig but NFL is still the NFL.

Yes, I agree the best scenario is for Garrett to succeed and be our coach for the next decade....that would be ideal! But I don't think it happens, team is too flawed yet the Super Bowl expectations still remain. That's a bad combo.

Nick Saban can get virtually any job he wants. He's arguably the hottest commodity in coaching. There's no way on earth he'd come to Dallas as long as Jones is alive. Saban runs the show with an iron fist. I think there's zero chance Jones and his family cede control like that.

 

[Plankton]

True Brady saved Belichick but the big difference between him and Saban is Belichick has always coached in the NFL. Belichick started coaching in the NFL in 79 and had great success as the Giants DC helping NY win 2 SB's. Other than 5 years with the Browns having limited success as their DC and 2 seasons with the Dolphins as their HC Saban has spent his entire coaching career in college. He started in 1970 as a college coach. A college coach is what he is and that's what he enjoys. If a coach isn't cut out for the pro game it's not going to work.

Actually, Belichick started coaching in the NFL as a gofer/assistant under Ted Marchibroda with the Colts in 1975. He then worked under Floyd Peters as a defensive assistant (Peters was the defensive coordinator) in Detroit, then spent a year in Denver in 1978 before going to the Giants.

 

[Kalyan]

I disagree.

Callahan is an excellent coordinator. But he's a terrible head coach.

A la Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, and countless others.

Then he is the perfect "yes" man for Jerry