I think McCarthy stays

rnr_honeybadger

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I don't think it matters. This team has gone through coach after coach and can't get it right. I wonder what might be the real problem?
Maybe it's bad Fung Shui at AT&T stadium. Did they consult a Fung Shui man to ensure that the stadium was built on the earth dragons back and not it's eyeball?
 

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I'm guessing same thing. Plus he works good with McClay. I don't see a Belichick or Harbaugh landing here because they would want complete control over roster.
 

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Watch the first 10 minutes of this and try and come up with one reason that the Conman or Dork should remain....you just can't.


My man - Dak is Jerry's guys. That is reason enough to understand that he stays. This is not the franchise that is going to change the QB. Philly, SF, GB yes, the Dallas Cowboys? No way. They will bring the same cast back, hire a few low level free agents and maybe swap out McCarthy and Dan Quinn. The PR department will do what it does best create hype in the media so that the idiot fanbase can flock to it and watch.
 

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McCarthy isn’t doing anything different that Garrett did? Why keep holding on? We going for another 8 year streak?

 

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3 12 win seasons in a row is impressive but having 1 playoff win over that span is not. I could see it going either way, but with Bill now available I do think that creates an interesting croasroad decision for him.
It's not only losing post season games but how we lose those games. We absolutely fall apart and then it is impossible to re-compose ourselves and overcome the deficit against the more competitive teams in post-season. On top of that it was at home and we absolutely had a golden opportunity to play even more games at home had we beaten this young Packers team.
 

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Totally agree. It makes sense for Dak and the Offense.

Yet, Jerry can still have Belichick if Belichick is willing to be D-Coordinator? Dan Quinn and his Rod Marinelli type of Defense needs to go.
The offense was not good at any point this year against a good defense. RZ offense was crap at times. They couldn't run the ball. Those manifested yesterday.

The prudent thing is to not make Dak feel comfortable. At this point, Dak is part of the issue of this team not getting over the hump in the playoffs. If Jerry were smart, he'd do the best thing for the long term health of the franchise, not what makes the QB feel comfortable.
 

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You are probably right. That’s just how we run things. The players and coaches show us who they are and cowboy management refuses to believe them.

I think a lot of this is a reluctance to eat crow and admit error or fault.
 

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After having some time to think about it, I don't believe Jerry will fire McCarthy for two reasons and these are Jerry reasons not necessarily sensible ones.

1) He'll look to the improvement on offense in just the first year with Mike in charge. He'll expect growth in year 2. He won't want to give up on that. He'd see it as a disservice to his QB. Who he's about to pay again.

2) McCarthy will be coaching out his final year of his contract in 2024. Jerry's mentioned in the past liking this scenario as it's a great motivator for a coach.

This is how Jerry thinks. It will take some effort from his advisors to get him to change direction right now. He won't want to do it and I don't think some conversation he had with Bill Belichick in 1996 plays any part in this.

Another go for McCarthy in a make or break year. That's my prediction.
This is 100% what will happen. We don’t always agree but this is my full expectation as well
 

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In any sane organization the first person out the door would be the GM, then Dak, followed by Quinn and McCarthy.
In this scenario, where you have a vet QB that has had some success, granted mostly regular season stuff, you'd probably dump the GM and coaches, hire a new GM, find a new coach and then they decide if they can with the current QB.

I mean if Harbaugh came in here, for example, and said he could absolutely win with Dak because he's going to build a ground and pound offense, heavy play action that suits/limits Dak to not airing it out 35 times a game, that might work and I'd certainly trust what Harbaugh thinks.
 

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you may be right. but you need to move to a 3-4. put hankins at NT and 2 3Ts on the ends, move DLAW to OLB with Parsons and get a Thumper for ILB and someone that can move side line to sideline this 3-1-7 formation has to go we are getting gashed on the running game which sets up playaction and other passing.
Linebacker is by far our worst unit on defense and you want to start 4 of them?

I don't get it.
 

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Agreed. But even when our GM dies his idiot son controls the team for another generation
Yep, so either you can as a fan be invested in this yearly let down. Or say screw this and stop participating in the revenue generation of this franchise. 30 years of "Jerry's way" has reduced a once proud franchise to a punchline. I mean that takes some ********* effort.
 

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After having some time to think about it, I don't believe Jerry will fire McCarthy for two reasons and these are Jerry reasons not necessarily sensible ones.

1) He'll look to the improvement on offense in just the first year with Mike in charge. He'll expect growth in year 2. He won't want to give up on that. He'd see it as a disservice to his QB. Who he's about to pay again.

2) McCarthy will be coaching out his final year of his contract in 2024. Jerry's mentioned in the past liking this scenario as it's a great motivator for a coach.

This is how Jerry thinks. It will take some effort from his advisors to get him to change direction right now. He won't want to do it and I don't think some conversation he had with Bill Belichick in 1996 plays any part in this.

Another go for McCarthy in a make or break year. That's my prediction.
I’d agree.

The big change will be on defense as Quinn leaves for a HC opportunity.
 

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After having some time to think about it, I don't believe Jerry will fire McCarthy for two reasons and these are Jerry reasons not necessarily sensible ones.

1) He'll look to the improvement on offense in just the first year with Mike in charge. He'll expect growth in year 2. He won't want to give up on that. He'd see it as a disservice to his QB. Who he's about to pay again.

2) McCarthy will be coaching out his final year of his contract in 2024. Jerry's mentioned in the past liking this scenario as it's a great motivator for a coach.

This is how Jerry thinks. It will take some effort from his advisors to get him to change direction right now. He won't want to do it and I don't think some conversation he had with Bill Belichick in 1996 plays any part in this.

Another go for McCarthy in a make or break year. That's my prediction.
I thought the probability he got fired was nearly zero. Even with a loss to GB. I do think the game yesterday was so bad and the team was so lifeless that he might be canned. I do think it was that bad.
 

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In this scenario, where you have a vet QB that has had some success, granted mostly regular season stuff, you'd probably dump the GM and coaches, hire a new GM, find a new coach and then they decide if they can with the current QB.

I mean if Harbaugh came in here, for example, and said he could absolutely win with Dak because he's going to build a ground and pound offense, heavy play action that suits/limits Dak to not airing it out 35 times a game, that might work and I'd certainly trust what Harbaugh thinks.
Philly had a vet QB in Wentz that they spent big dollars on. They moved on. They didn't wait to decide if he is the guy they moved on. That's what successful franchises do. They don't hold on to talent past their expiration date.
 

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After having some time to think about it, I don't believe Jerry will fire McCarthy for two reasons and these are Jerry reasons not necessarily sensible ones.

1) He'll look to the improvement on offense in just the first year with Mike in charge. He'll expect growth in year 2. He won't want to give up on that. He'd see it as a disservice to his QB. Who he's about to pay again.

2) McCarthy will be coaching out his final year of his contract in 2024. Jerry's mentioned in the past liking this scenario as it's a great motivator for a coach.

This is how Jerry thinks. It will take some effort from his advisors to get him to change direction right now. He won't want to do it and I don't think some conversation he had with Bill Belichick in 1996 plays any part in this.

Another go for McCarthy in a make or break year. That's my prediction.
I agree with your logic, however there is one caveat that sticks out.

Can Jerry sell it to the fans? I will not buy it and I think the average fan may be able to see through the high grade horse manure Jerry spews out finally.

Nothing against MM, but he does not rock the boat. Jerry wants everyone in their place making believe the organization has accountability.

Time will tell.
 
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