I want Zeke back next year

diamonddelts

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And i answered you.

What YOU refuse to answer...is why.

Maybe...i know this might be hard to comprehend...but lets try....if the USE him like 2nd highest paid....hed be 2nd best in the league.

You hate because of the paycheck. You got your own great Tree Of Woe.

You had one job.......
 

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And i answered you.

What YOU refuse to answer...is why.

Maybe...i know this might be hard to comprehend...but lets try....if the USE him like 2nd highest paid....hed be 2nd best in the league.

You hate because of the paycheck. You got your own great Tree Of Woe.


I half hope the Cowboys keep Zeke just for the misery it will cause the haters. Zeke doesn't call the plays.. I firmly believe that if they handed him the ball 20 times a game he'd lead the league in rushing and the Cowboys' overall record would be better. The Cowboys CHOSE to pay him top dollar then turn him into a part time back. He's not the one out there calling pass plays 65% of the time.. Not one running back who ever lived wants to play that style of offense.
 

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As long as he is willing to take a pay cut. That is fine.

get Zeke to take a pay cut. Franchise Pollard so you get one more season out of him.


I would be totally in on that.

Terrible idea. Delete your post.
 

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vs. ALL teams played so far this season

Pollard (14 games) 177 carries 969 yards 9 TD's 5.5 ypc

Zeke (12 games) 188 carries 774 yards 10 TD's 4.1 ypc

The tandem has paired well this season but keep in mind that in the 2 games Zeke missed due to injury, Pollard had 36 carries for 246 yards and 4 td's.

That all said, salary HAS to come into play for next season given Zeke is scheduled to count $16.7M against the cap while Pollard is an UFA who could command an AAV contract in the neighborhood of $9-$11M/year based on his performance this season and based on what other RB's are being paid.

So do you trade/release Zeke to save $5M in 2023 (or about $11M in 2023 if designated a post June 1st cap hit with $5.9M dead money in 2023 & 2024) and sign Pollard to a contract averaging $10M/year and pair him with a rookie draft pick or do you allow Pollard to test the market and potentially lose him???? The franchise tag for a RB in 2023 will be around $9.75M-$10M so......decisions decisions.

The decision comes down to whether you think Pollard at 10-ish million a year and a rookie on a rookie deal can approximate what you get from Pollard and Zeke on a combined salary of 15-16 million. OR do you think Zeke for 6-7 million and rookie on rookie deal can outperform Zeke and Pollard? I am of the mind that the change of pace splash play guy is easier to replace than the meat and potatoes guy. I recognize that other see it differently. What Pollard accomplished against bottom feeder defenses while Zeke was out was nice but Zeke has feasted on bottom feeder defenses at an even higher level when he was allowed to. Those games are nice.. but averaging just barely 2 ypc against good defensive fronts cannot be ignored.

Would you rather have the guy who can get you 120 yards a game against chumps but barely 20 a game against tougher fronts or the guy who might only get you 90-100 against chumps but will deliver 70-80 against the tougher defenses as well. The answer to me comes down to which level of defense do you think you are likely to see in the playoffs. People are free to feel however they want about it. There's only three people whose feelings about it actually matter. And none of those three is on this board.
 

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The decision comes down to whether you think Pollard at 10-ish million a year and a rookie on a rookie deal can approximate what you get from Pollard and Zeke on a combined salary of 15-16 million. OR do you think Zeke for 6-7 million and rookie on rookie deal can outperform Zeke and Pollard? I am of the mind that the change of pace splash play guy is easier to replace than the meat and potatoes guy. I recognize that other see it differently. What Pollard accomplished against bottom feeder defenses while Zeke was out was nice but Zeke has feasted on bottom feeder defenses at an even higher level when he was allowed to. Those games are nice.. but averaging just barely 2 ypc against good defensive fronts cannot be ignored.

Would you rather have the guy who can get you 120 yards a game against chumps but barely 20 a game against tougher fronts or the guy who might only get you 90-100 against chumps but will deliver 70-80 against the tougher defenses as well. The answer to me comes down to which level of defense do you think you are likely to see in the playoffs. People are free to feel however they want about it. There's only three people whose feelings about it actually matter. And none of those three is on this board.


Ultimately what it will come down to will be is Zeke willing to slash his salary by nearly 1/2 next season without an extension?
 

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Can’t see Jerry letting go of him but would be ridiculous to keep him at current salary.
Has to take a pay cut and restructure or walk. Pollard is priority. Right now he and Ceedee are our only playmakers on offense. We ditched one last off-season for no good reason. Can’t decrease your playmakers and expect to get equivalent results.
 

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Ultimately what it will come down to will be is Zeke willing to slash his salary by nearly 1/2 next season without an extension?

Indeed.. He has already pocketed over 60 million in salary and bonuses in his career. I can't imagine he needs any more money and he comes from a smart family that won't let him piss away his money. He can play another 4-5 years and make himself another 20-25 million bucks while playing on a good team in his current role. Or he can play hardball, get released and hope there is at least one team out there that thinks he can either still be a feature back or just put butts in the seats like AZ tried to do with Emmitt. If no such team steps up then he becomes a vet minimum vagabond for the rest of his career.

What is likely to happen is his agent will be directed to feel out any potential suitors before any decision about his staying with the Cowboys and on what terms is made. Those conversations will go a long way toward determining how willing Zeke is to take less money to remain in Dallas. But I am already on record that I would find a way to make the money work so I could keep both. I am never a fan of losing good football players and hoping I can get someone as good in the draft or at the local five and dime. For those too young to remember the 5 and dime stores think of them as the forerunner to Dollar Tree, Family Dollar and that type of store.
 

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Yeah good luck convincing the people that hate of that. Yes they need to reduce his salary and his cap hit.. but the whole crusade to run him out of Dallas is just dumb. The guy's a good and complete football player who is unselfish and tough as nails. You can never have enough of that type of player.
I’m all for it, at an average rb cap charge
 

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Y’all really think he’s going to restructure his contract and take less money?

:lmao2::lmao2:

yeah no. Not happening.
 

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I know everyone is always trying to get rid of him but he has done his job and has done it well!

I love 21 and I hope he comes back next year
Same here. He’s been playing with a bad lg for 4 years. Pollard can get buy with weak guards abd good tackles. Zekes better with good guards and bad tackles.
 

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So those who complain about sending Cooper packing will also regreat it if we cut Zeke
 

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Me too, if he’ll play for 1/3 if what he’s currently making.

He’s no longer an elite RB. He’s good. Behind a great OL you can draft good in the 2/3rd round.

Franchise Pollard and let him walk.
 

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The decision comes down to whether you think Pollard at 10-ish million a year and a rookie on a rookie deal can approximate what you get from Pollard and Zeke on a combined salary of 15-16 million. OR do you think Zeke for 6-7 million and rookie on rookie deal can outperform Zeke and Pollard? I am of the mind that the change of pace splash play guy is easier to replace than the meat and potatoes guy. I recognize that other see it differently. What Pollard accomplished against bottom feeder defenses while Zeke was out was nice but Zeke has feasted on bottom feeder defenses at an even higher level when he was allowed to. Those games are nice.. but averaging just barely 2 ypc against good defensive fronts cannot be ignored.

Would you rather have the guy who can get you 120 yards a game against chumps but barely 20 a game against tougher fronts or the guy who might only get you 90-100 against chumps but will deliver 70-80 against the tougher defenses as well. The answer to me comes down to which level of defense do you think you are likely to see in the playoffs. People are free to feel however they want about it. There's only three people whose feelings about it actually matter. And none of those three is on this board.
Zeke is just a short yardage and goal line back at best.

He's been a washed up starter between the 10 yard lines for 2+years because he's too slooowwww bruh!

He was a progress stopper for Pollard for over 2 years and now he's just a progress stopper for the other younger rbs like Davis rn.

Let's see what Pollard and Davis can do behind this oline and use Zeke down by the end zone.

Both of those guys are wayyyyy better than Zeke is rn as runners.

Pollard and Davis are a better tandem between the 10 yard lines. Imo

Zeke and his 35 yard playoff rushing yards is why we lost. Defenses don't fear him like they do Pollard

He's just spelling all of the Pro Bowl rbs involvement at this point

I wouldnt use Zeke for more than 6-7 carries per game. He's a 3rd RB at best.

If I was Pollard I'd say heck no I want 3/4 of the carries.

Just do what Witten did and don't come off the field TP

Pollard is the pro bowler so go sit you slow molasses self down.
 
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