I would venture to argue that Alfred Morris is a better runner than DeMarco

[basstapp]

The McFadden hate on this board is absurd. The guy averaged 4.6 yards per carry and eclipsed 1k yards and he didn't even start the entire year...

 

[DandyDon52]

If Morris isnt a good pass catcher, then that makes Murray the better back.
Morris needs to learn to catch passes !
But it all depends on the system, the coaches , the play calling ,predictability etc.
Last year neither of them looked very good, but neither was in a good situation.

We will find out in a few months, both seem to be in better situations, and should do better this year.
Plus it depends on if dallas gets a RB in the draft.
McF did good enough last year to be the starter going into TC and pre-season.

 

[DFWJC]

Murray also fumbled like crazy in his 1800 yard campaign.

He had a great season, but that playoff fumble was easily the most costly turnover all year. Devastating.

 

[DeaconMoss]

On Alfred Morris

» Alfred Morris: "I definitely want to get more involved in the passing game, whether its screens or actually running routes, whatever it is I'm open for it. Just build that trust with the quarterbacks and coaches and that'll help translate to more catches."
» Jay Gruden: "We still have to keep pounding the rock and get more physical and keep coaching (the running backs) up."

My translation:
Morris: "This rookie Matt Jones is gonna take my job."
Gruden: "You cant catch, that's why we drafted Jones."

http://www.nfl.com/fantasyfootball/...-around-camp-alfred-morris-seeks-more-catches

 

[Bleu Star]

A better Runner than Demarco Murray. And definitely a better RB for the price.

Now Demarco is more versatile. Better receiver and possibly blocker. But for pure running the football, give me Morris. And he has shown to be a durable back. Emmitt Smith type durable. The guy can handle the load and runs between the tackles with great vision and cutting/sliding ability. Give Morris 400 carries in this offense and he will have 1800 yards no doubt in my opinion. The problem will be that it may take Garrett and Jones half the season or an injury to McChicken to figure this out.

I would love to see them take a young RB in the draft, but Morris is a great bang for the buck. Nice between the tackles RB for this line.

Nice job rubbing two sticks together. Personally, I will support Demarco until the end of time. His caliber of quality is that high IMO both on and off the field. Morris only compares because he comes cheap. Demarco trumps him in every other measurable category.

Here we go again... Just when I had gotten over my PPD & PTSD.

 

[Jstopper]

A better Runner than Demarco Murray. And definitely a better RB for the price.

Now Demarco is more versatile. Better receiver and possibly blocker. But for pure running the football, give me Morris. And he has shown to be a durable back. Emmitt Smith type durable. The guy can handle the load and runs between the tackles with great vision and cutting/sliding ability. Give Morris 400 carries in this offense and he will have 1800 yards no doubt in my opinion. The problem will be that it may take Garrett and Jones half the season or an injury to McChicken to figure this out.

I would love to see them take a young RB in the draft, but Morris is a great bang for the buck. Nice between the tackles RB for this line.

I agree with you man. Murray is so overhyped to me. He was an okay back until we got our monster o-line in 2014. Morris was outproducing him behind the Commanders line his first 3 years. He will be a monster behind our line. If he starts he is at least getting 1600 yards easy. We won't even remember old DeFumble Murray

 

[Doomsday101]

Nice job rubbing two sticks together. Personally, I will support Demarco until the end of time. His caliber of quality is that high IMO both on and off the field. Morris only compares because he comes cheap. Demarco trumps him in every other measurable category.

Here we go again... Just when I had gotten over my PPD & PTSD.

I agree, I have no ill feelings towards Murray and would have loved to keep him. he messed well with the offense and did a very good job for the Cowboys. Having said that he did what was in his best interest and the Cowboys did what they felt was in theirs. it happens this is why we see players moving in FA. As for Morris I think he is a quality RB and his style as a RB I think fits well with what the Cowboys want in their RB, he is a one cut runner who does not dance around he sees the hole and hits it quickly and runs with good power.

 

[Idgit]

The McFadden hate on this board is absurd. The guy averaged 4.6 yards per carry and eclipsed 1k yards and he didn't even start the entire year...

There's no other way to reconcile the freaking out over letting Murray walk unless his successor is woefully inadequate.

I never liked the McFadden pickup for us because of his history with the ZBS, but it's tough to complain about his productivity last year. On the long list of problems with last year's offense, RB was a non-issue.

 

[Verdict]

Uh, I don't think so.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You are right I stopped reading when you compared Morris to Emmitt Smith. That was enough dumb for me to stop reading.

Well, then its clearly comprehension. I compared his durability to Emmitt. He has never missed a game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

clueless post.. you never seen friday?

LOL....I don't watch dumb movies like Friday? No, I dont get off on watching midgets act like they are tough guys. Sorry, you may have a taste for that.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I would venture to argue that any comparison between Morris and Murray at this point is meaningless thus making this entire thread and it's posts, including mine, pointless.

 

[CowboyRoy]

but Cube isn't 5'2

fwiw, Alf was never as productive with Cousins as he was with RG3. Teams were afraid of RG3 running and it benefitted Morris. In a traditional offense he was average at best.

Other than a miraculous dream season for Murray, he has been worse than average. His year last year was horrible. Blame whatever you want on how he was used, he didnt produce even when he did get carries. 4 mediocre years of Murray to 1 great tell the tale. Ill take Morris and his slight contract over the overpaid, over hyped, injury prone Murray any day of the week.

 

[Jarv]

Murray accomplished what was predicted in 2015. Very few RBs rebound from the amount of touches he had 2014 to have productive seasons the following year (2015). We made the right choice letting him walk, considering what he was asking and received in Philly.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Idk which one is better but I don't think there is a huge gap between McFadden, Morris, and Murray. One thing I do know is.. I'd rather have McFadden and Morris than have to pay Murray big $$. Who cares if Morris can catch? Why would we want to throw him the ball? He's a guy that can get dirty yards. McFadden is the one that can catch and be explosive in space,... as well as Dunbar.

 

[Chuck 54]

I won't attempt to say who's better, but behind an atrocious OL, Morris had more consistency and 1,000 yard seasons.
Murray had one (hey this guy might be good) season and one (rushing champion) season, but then couldn't beat out either of the two RBs in Philly, so maybe not very versatile--scheme dependent.

 

[KJJ]

Murray accomplished what was predicted in 2015. Very few RBs rebound from the amount of touches he had 2014 to have productive seasons the following year (2015). We made the right choice letting him walk, considering what he was asking and received in Philly.

Murray was the first RB to ever lead the league in rushing then play for another team the following season. Playing in Philly with several other players that didn't fit into Kelly's system is why he didn't have a productive season. The guy who brought him there got fired because he added several pieces that didn't fit. Murray only started 8 games in 2015 and received only 193 carries. Despite not being given the opportunity he still produced 6 TD's which was double what McFadden produced and he was our bell cow for most of the season. Plus Murray had a 54 yard TD run which was a longer run than McFadden had last season who was suppose to provide a bunch of long runs according to the FANS here. Philly was fazing Murray out as the season wore on he only had 40 snaps not carries but "snaps" the final few games of the season. He never had more than 14 carries the final 7 games of the season.

He was unhappy due to how he was being used but still produced 702 rushing yards and 44 receptions for 322 yards. It's beyond obvious we didn't make the right choice to let him walk and a 4-12 season points to that. Our lack of efficiency running the ball contributed to Romo being injured. He was forced to attempt 45 passes in the opener which was more attempts than he had in any game in 2014 and a lot of those passes were to the backs who didn't run the ball worth a damn. Romo was on pace for another 40 attempt game when he was injured in Philly and both injuries occurred in long down situations where the defense could pin their ears back and come after him.

We never saw as many long down situations in 2014 with Murray. In 3 of the games Romo started our backs averaged under 4.0 a carry. McFadden had 3 negative carries in his first 7 attempts against Carolina putting the game on Romo which contributed to him being lost for the rest of the season. Those of you who say we made the right decision to let Murray walk are in denial. Point to what you saw last season with the Cowboys that made it look like the right decision? Our running game wasn't close to what it was in 2014 we had over 400 fewer rushing yards and half as many rushing TDs putting the pressure on our passing game. We didn't move the chains near as well in short yardage and were the worst team in the league on 3rd and one.

 

[Jarv]

Murray was the first RB to ever lead the league in rushing then play for another team the following season. Playing in Philly with several other players that didn't fit into Kelly's system is why he didn't have a productive season. The guy who brought him there got fired because he added several pieces that didn't fit. Murray only started 8 games in 2015 and received only 193 carries. Despite not being given the opportunity he still produced 6 TD's which was double what McFadden produced and he was our bell cow for most of the season. Plus Murray had a 54 yard TD run which was a longer run than McFadden had last season who was suppose to provide a bunch of long runs according to the FANS here. Philly was fazing Murray out as the season wore on he only had 40 snaps not carries but "snaps" the final few games of the season. He never had more than 14 carries the final 7 games of the season.

He was unhappy due to how he was being used but still produced 702 rushing yards and 44 receptions for 322 yards. It's beyond obvious we didn't make the right choice to let him walk and a 4-12 season points to that. Our lack of efficiency running the ball contributed to Romo being injured. He was forced to attempt 45 passes in the opener which was more attempts than he had in any game in 2014 and a lot of those passes were to the backs who didn't run the ball worth a damn. Romo was on pace for another 40 attempt game when he was injured in Philly and both injuries occurred in long down situations where the defense could pin their ears back and come after him.

We never saw as many long down situations in 2014 with Murray. In 3 of the games Romo started our backs averaged under 4.0 a carry. McFadden had 3 negative carries in his first 7 attempts against Carolina putting the game on Romo which contributed to him being lost for the rest of the season. Those of you who say we made the right decision to let Murray walk are in denial. Point to what you saw last season with the Cowboys that made it look like the right decision? Our running game wasn't close to what it was in 2014 we had over 400 fewer rushing yards and half as many rushing TDs putting the pressure on our passing game. We didn't move the chains near as well in short yardage and were the worst team in the league on 3rd and one.

I see you a big Murray fan, when he was a Cowboy I pulled for him too. Actually thought he lost some speed after his rookie year. While I appreciate your fandom for Murray, I did not want to pay him 8 million/year. Bottom line we were right, he didn't have a good year last year, he got into the coaches doghouse and then looked like a whiner going to the owner and complaining. I wouldn't have minded keeping him at 4 million/year, which is less than we even offered. So I think we made the right choice at the price point he was asking for. Hopefully Morris and McFadden (along with rookie RB) can fill the role for us.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

There's no other way to reconcile the freaking out over letting Murray walk unless his successor is woefully inadequate.

I never liked the McFadden pickup for us because of his history with the ZBS, but it's tough to complain about his productivity last year. On the long list of problems with last year's offense, RB was a non-issue.

Joe Randle.

 

[dagreat1_87]

LOL....I don't watch dumb movies like Friday? No, I dont get off on watching midgets act like they are tough guys. Sorry, you may have a taste for that.

whoa whoa whoa. screw the morris/murray debate. did you just disrespect little people and the greatness of Friday in one post?