*IF*Drew Bledsoe Goes down for season in Preseason

Hostile said:
During the playoffs?

Were you ever on a team?

i'm not excusing him for anything he did i was just saying stop blowing up on Nors for a question many people have asked worse.
 
Woody'sGirl said:
Prolly still counseling. I think QC sits out this year and maybe make a comeback, of sorts, next year.
I highly doubt Carter has the personal fortitude to wait a year in rehab to make a comeback. That would have been the smart thing for him to have done last year.
 
dargonking999 said:
Pennington is their franshise QB, why would they want to not let himplay in the postseason, they have a great back behind him and they did good with pennington the last time i checked.

Pennington's shoulder was in bad shape, they had no other QB on the roster with NFL experience, Carter was AWOL so they added a QB from the PS, for the playoffs.

This says that six months after losing your job and letting down your team, he did it again to his new team.

It's now six months later, what proof is out there that things have changed?

TB released Johnson, have a developmental QB in Simms and a journeyman in Griese, but they did not sign him either.
 
dargonking999 said:
i'm not excusing him for anything he did i was just saying stop blowing up on Nors for a question many people have asked worse.
Where did I blow up on Nors?

I must have missed that. Either that or you haven't seen what I do when I want to shred a stupid argument.
 
Hostile said:
Where did I blow up on Nors?

I must have missed that. Either that or you haven't seen what I do when I want to shred a stupid argument.

no not you it was another person i was commenting to.
 
blindzebra said:
Pennington's shoulder was in bad shape, they had no other QB on the roster with NFL experience, Carter was AWOL so they added a QB from the PS, for the playoffs.

This says that six months after losing your job and letting down your team, he did it again to his new team.

It's now six months later, what proof is out there that things have changed?

TB released Johnson, have a developmental QB in Simms and a journeyman in Griese, but they did not sign him either.

You're right BZ...Carter bombed (or bonged) out his NFL career. The fact he's still being brought up as a potential Cowboy QB is laughable.
 
blindzebra said:
Pennington's shoulder was in bad shape, they had no other QB on the roster with NFL experience, Carter was AWOL so they added a QB from the PS, for the playoffs.

This says that six months after losing your job and letting down your team, he did it again to his new team.

It's now six months later, what proof is out there that things have changed?

TB released Johnson, have a developmental QB in Simms and a journeyman in Griese, but they did not sign him either.
I'm going to switch gears for a minute and hope this can turn into an interesting thread.

Is anyone besides me not impressed with Pennington as a QB? Sorry LTN. I thought he'd be more than he is. Just not impressed with him. I'm open to listening to it being the OCs fault, but I don't see him do anything more than lob passes to his targets. No zip, no swagger.
 
Hostile said:
I'm going to switch gears for a minute and hope this can turn into an interesting thread.

Is anyone besides me not impressed with Pennington as a QB? Sorry LTN. I thought he'd be more than he is. Just not impressed with him. I'm open to listening to it being the OCs fault, but I don't see him do anythign more than lob passes to his targets. No zip, no swagger.

Pennigton just doesnt have the arm or confidence to throw the ball down fiel, he relys to much on the martin and short hooks to move the ball.
 
DallasEast said:
I highly doubt Carter has the personal fortitude to wait a year in rehab to make a comeback. That would have been the smart thing for him to have done last year.
Outpatient counseling sessions, not so much onsite in a rehab clinic. That said, you're prolly right. He prolly should have sat out last year. More than likely he and/or his agent wanted to show teams that he could actually be trusted. Unfortunately, he proved just the opposite at the most inopportune time.

My thought for QC is simply, good luck to him....elsewhere.
 
Hostile said:
You replied to me. That would intimate you meant me.

i'm sorry for the misunderstand, but my first post in this thread was a reply of seombody else post, then it all went from there.
 
dargonking999 said:
Pennigton just doesnt have the arm or confidence to throw the ball down fiel, he relys to much on the martin and short hooks to move the ball.
My opinion exactly.
 
Woody'sGirl said:
Outpatient counseling sessions, not so much onsite in a rehab clinic. That said, you're prolly right. He prolly should have sat out last year. More than likely he and/or his agent wanted to show teams that he could actually be trusted. Unfortunately, he proved just the opposite at the most inopportune time.

My thought for QC is simply, good luck to him....elsewhere.
What the good lady said.

:bravo:
 
Hostile said:
I'm going to switch gears for a minute and hope this can turn into an interesting thread.

Is anyone besides me not impressed with Pennington as a QB? Sorry LTN. I thought he'd be more than he is. Just not impressed with him. I'm open to listening to it being the OCs fault, but I don't see him do anythign more than lob passes to his targets. No zip, no swagger.
Funny, I remember Randy Mueller saying that in one of those game day chats about Pennington. To paraphras: He was saying that, as good as Pennington is, he never seems to step up like you hope a franchise QB should. That if he doesn't get it, he's gonna be viewed as nothing more than "just a guy."

I've watched a few Jets games and I think he's a good QB, but I've never been sold on him as somebody who can carry the team. Somebody who can put that team on their back and will their team to a win. He just doesn't inspire that kind of confidence in that way.
 
Woody'sGirl said:
Funny, I remember Randy Mueller saying that in one of those game day chats about Pennington. To paraphras: He was saying that, as good as Pennington is, he never seems to step up like you hope a franchise QB should. That if he doesn't get it, he's gonna be viewed as nothing more than "just a guy."

I've watched a few Jets games and I think he's a good QB, but I've never been sold on him as somebody who can carry the team. Somebody who can put that team on their back and will their team to a win. He just doesn't inspire that kind of confidence in that way.
I wouldn't want him as our QB. I like him as a person, same as I did a couple of other kids we let go. I am not impressed with him as a QB. If he had some gambler in him I might change my mind. Too vanilla.
 
Hostile said:
I'm going to switch gears for a minute and hope this can turn into an interesting thread.

Is anyone besides me not impressed with Pennington as a QB? Sorry LTN. I thought he'd be more than he is. Just not impressed with him. I'm open to listening to it being the OCs fault, but I don't see him do anythign more than lob passes to his targets. No zip, no swagger.

He's completing well over 60% of his passes, at nearly 7.5 YPA, with a 2/1 TD to INT ratio, and a career QB rating of 93.

Does he have an Elway-like gun or throw a great deep ball? No, but Montana did not have a gun and Aikman, for all his arm strength, did not throw a great deep ball either.

He's a solid WCO QB, IMO.
 
Hostile said:
I wouldn't want him as our QB. I like him as a person, same as I did a couple of other kids we let go. I am not impressed with him as a QB. If he had some gambler in him I might change my mind. Too vanilla.

i agree i hope i'm not being to hard on him, but to me he just dosent seem strong minded enough to be the "franshise" QB,i mean as long as he a great back behind him, he cna be a great bus driver, but not a great QB, he just doenst have the mind to me
 
Hostile said:
I wouldn't want him as our QB. I like him as a person, same as I did a couple of other kids we let go. I am not impressed with him as a QB. If he had some gambler in him I might change my mind. Too vanilla.
I think it's that gambler aspect that just might be missing in him. He's extremely smart and he plays with a mistake-free mentality (if you get what I'm saying). He's very accurate, doesn't go down-field much (could've been the offense), and pretty much goes for the safe throws, IMO.

With a new OC in Heimerdinger(sp?), that just might change this year. He worked wonders with McNair and Tenn offense. So, that might loosen up Pennington and what he and Jets offense brings to the table.
 
blindzebra said:
He's completing well over 60% of his passes, at nearly 7.5 YPA, with a 2/1 TD to INT ratio, and a career QB rating of 93.

Does he have an Elway-like gun or throw a great deep ball? No, but Montana did not have a gun and Aikman, for all his arm strength, did not throw a great deep ball either.

He's a solid WCO QB, IMO.
Aikman could throw it deep, we didn't have an offense that could make it effective. When he needed zip on it he had it.

I'm not sure Pennington has it.

Solid point on the WCO thing. He is accurate. I just don't see him as a focal strength of an offense. Just a guy.
 
Hostile said:
Aikman could throw it deep, we didn't have an offense that could make it effective. When he needed zip on it he had it.

I'm not sure Pennington has it.

Solid point on the WCO thing. He is accurate. I just don't see him as a focal strength of an offense. Just a guy.

I disagree on the Aikman thing. Troy had a cannon and great accuracy, but 1+1 did not equal 2 on the deep ball.

Harper and Irvin had to make major adjustments, and many great catches on deep balls.

It's strange because a 20 yard out covers about 40 yards and he'd throw a rope, but when he had to put some air under it his accuracy dropped.
 

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