CFZ If the QB doesn't get a new contract, how will you watch this season?

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I don't have personal hate towards Dak. If the players around him cave, he is toast. If the players around him can hold their ground, he has plenty of flashes in him. Players like Mahommes, Brady, etc know how to handle pressure.

Unfortunately, Dak doesn't. You can only go so far at Dak's stage. You need a QB like Mahommes or Brady (or that type) that can flash even when in pressure. You can post stats all you want. Stats aren't going to show the folding that Dak does on the field. You can't coach that out of a player. He is what he is.
So let me get this straight,

there are 32 teams in the NFL, you mentioned two players and ones retired.

So the other 31 teams might as well just give up because they don't have Patrick Mahomes? Just about everything you said about Prescott can be said about just about every quarterback in the league who doesn't win the Super bowl in a given year and there aren't many of those and then if you're trying to tell me that Nick Foles, Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Flacco, and guys like even Eli Manning and others say Garoppolo and Goff who've been to Super Bowls because of their teams somehow are all in your Patrick Mahomes category because they made the Super bowl??

Are you forgetting this is a team game and we can look back at every single playoff game since 2016 and find a lot of other reasons that were not because Prescott couldn't handle the pressure. I don't get it, I watched the game it's kind of hard to play when you don't have a run game or a physical offensive line that can block or guys who are running routes wrong or the play calls are ridiculous and you don't have the best coaching you might want to add in that Mahomes and Brady also had Bill Belichick and Andy Reed and a bunch of other players around them.

No quarterback can win on his own in this league once you get into the playoffs, you have to have your team support, you want a good recent example, how about this Patrick mahomes was losing in the Super bowl at halftime, they could not seem to catch up when they were playing like they played most of the year and guess what they did Andy Reed makes halftime adjustments that come out and ran the damn ball down the throats, the Eagles defense kept allowing chunk yards by a bunch of spares RBBC and Kansas city's defense was able to shut down the Eagles run game and make them one-dimensional and guess what happens jalen hurts fumbles they can't seem to consistently maintain drives and they got beat they got beat. Patrick mahomes team, you know his coaches his run game, and his offensive line didn't give up one sack, that's why they won the game.

the team stepped up, the coaches made adjustments, and that's how it works, I agree Patrick mahomes is probably the best quarterback in the league but there aren't very many elite quarterbacks that you speak of so the other teams have to use players like Prescott that means a team has to be built well that goes for all teams then because if we're talking about one quarterback being truly elite that has an elite head coach who calls the plays at an elite level.

so again, the rest of the league are in the same situation we are trying to find a quarterback that if you give him the right players around them and they come in and play well, you win,

if not, you lose... I'm saying quarterbacks all last playoff series, some of the ones are supposed to be great have games where they have three or four turnovers, we've also seen quarterbacks like Matthew Stafford win a Super Bowl leading the league in turnovers and having two turnovers in the Super bowl , explain how Prescott can't do the same if the team backs him up much in the same way, establish defense ,establish the run game, make adjustments, call the right plays at the right moments and execute properly,

that's football...
 

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The QB's contract situation will have nothing to do with my fandom or how much I watch. Never has.. never will. Same goes for any player at any position. I'm not that invested in these guys' paychecks. I honestly don't understand people who are..
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Apparently some fans are still looking into the sun for far too long without their sunglasses on :facepalm:o_O

they somehow think Cooper rush can win games, I don't care how stacked we're going to be on defense, we're going to need a quarterback to win games when the defense does allow points or is getting beat or we have injuries.

I think it's odd or ironic or whatever word you want to use that Cooper rush didn't get one offer for a backup quarterback position or starting but somehow our fan base think this guy can win 10 games they must have forgot to watch those five games again that he played in and find out how he just wasn't even that good a backup quarterback, he was a placeholder, he wasn't even a bus driver the bus was on cruise control but there is no defense I can remember that can play all 17 games like that and especially in the playoffs...

again, the fan base is delusional if they think this team is so good it can win with Cooper rush. SMH :popcorn::oldcouple:
 
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I posed this in another thread but thought it would be an interesting topic here, if all posters can really be honest with their answers.

First off, I am going to say Prescott is a more polarizing player than Romo was and I could see fans of the team actually pulling against their own team to try and get rid of him.

It is an oddity but it is there, many just don't want him to be the DC QB. The question is enough to pull against him and the team?

I gotta say, if I disliked him at QB as much as some here do, and evidently that is not exclusive to the Zone, I might be tempted to pull for a QB crash and burn.

And I am not going to ask if not him, then whom because those that really dislike Prescott do not care, I really do believe they have arrived at "anyone but him".

I am also not going to say if they go that route they are not good fans. Plenty of fans have pulled for their teams to get worse in order to get better.

So, my question is mainly to those that do not like him. If he does not get a new contract, can you pull for him and the team knowing he will get another one and most likely larger than the extension he might have gotten?

Oh, I know, the Joneses intend on extending him but they intended on getting him on a new contract before they had to do that 160M one. He's bet on himself before and won.
If they truly develop the power run game and the defense continues to become elite then another choke from Dak should cement his departure or at least a shorter-term extension. If he can't win in the playoffs with that QB-light formula then what's the point of having him? I'm rooting for the running game and the defense to step it up a level so that there are no excuses, and I'm rooting for Dak to show he can be that guy,,,
 

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I seriously doubt I will watch much...this franchise has gone completely into the toilet.
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Could care less who our Qb is in terms of watching and rooting.

But we all have opinions on the value and skill of ANY of the players and we will never agree as a fan base.
 

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Exactly the same. He shouldn't get a new contract until we see how he does without KM regardless.

That said I expect Dak to ball out and sign an extension next off season.
 

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Could care less who our Qb is in terms of watching and rooting.

But we all have opinions on the value and skill of ANY of the players and we will never agree as a fan base.
I care about WHO the QB is.. but have no concern about what he is paid. I watch how he plays.. If he plays well I want him to stay.. If he stinks I want him gone. How much he costs is a teeny tiny part of that equation because we should all have realized by now that any decent QB is going to make a TON of money. I personally don't like it.. Not only for our team but for the league in general. Overpaying these QBs has caused the overall quality of play in the league to drop (IMHO) because it has caused teams to move on from or pass on other good players because of the QB financial burden. Again not just the Cowboys.. ALL teams have faced this dilemma.. and it can all be traced back to the escalating QB salaries. Now if the Cowboys were the ONLY team dealing with this I might assign it more mental energy. But pretty much every team is in the same boat or about to be as their current QB comes off his rookie deal.

Since everybody is playing by the same rules the playing field is more or less level and winning or losing becomes more about how good you are at the other 52 roster spots and coaching than it is about the QB. Yes a great QB can mask deficiencies in other areas.. but he can't mask them all. At some point other people gotta do their job. Mahomes is the inarguable best in the business right now but he looked like an absolute chump when his o-line was compromised in the Super Bowl against Tampa. If that didn't teach people how important it is for other aspects of the team to be up to snuff regardless of who the QB is then nothing will. If I'm not mistaken Brady had three Super Bowl wins while passing for less than 200 yards and 1 TD. He got one win while "leading" his offense to 13 points. Actually two because the offense only scored 13 points in the first win against the Rams in '01. Ty Law took a pick to the house off Warner for their other points. I don't care if the Cowboys ever have "the best QB in the league.." or any other position for that matter. I am more concerned about them having "the best team in the league.."
 

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No you’re haters because for the 1 billionth time a hater is someone like you who almost ALWAYS *****es and complains and mostly about Dak. It’s ok to criticize a player, coach, etc. but to DO NOTHING but rag on Dak is a friken hater.
No you’re haters because for the 1 billionth time a hater is someone like you who almost ALWAYS *****es and complains and mostly about Dak. It’s ok to criticize a player, coach, etc. but to DO NOTHING but rag on people that have different opinions of Dak's QB skills.

Stop being a hater Rock and learn to live with the fact that not everyone agrees with you. You can do better than this!
 

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-----I very well remember fans rooting against the Cowboys to lose so they could get a better draft pick.
They used to get so mad when they won and cost them a few spots.


So did that last game win @ Philly years ago mean ANYTHING other than keeping The Clapping Carrot from a losing season? Did it help revive and spark the team and send them into great things the next season? The answer to both questions is NO....all it did was cost us about 5 slots in the draft....nothing more. It was a STUPID win, by a stupid organization.
 

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No you’re haters because for the 1 billionth time a hater is someone like you who almost ALWAYS *****es and complains and mostly about Dak. It’s ok to criticize a player, coach, etc. but to DO NOTHING but rag on people that have different opinions of Dak's QB skills.

Stop being a hater Rock and learn to live with the fact that not everyone agrees with you. You can do better than this!
You just don’t get it.
 

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So let me get this straight,

there are 32 teams in the NFL, you mentioned two players and ones retired.

So the other 31 teams might as well just give up because they don't have Patrick Mahomes? Just about everything you said about Prescott can be said about just about every quarterback in the league who doesn't win the Super bowl in a given year and there aren't many of those and then if you're trying to tell me that Nick Foles, Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Flacco, and guys like even Eli Manning and others say Garoppolo and Goff who've been to Super Bowls because of their teams somehow are all in your Patrick Mahomes category because they made the Super bowl??

Are you forgetting this is a team game and we can look back at every single playoff game since 2016 and find a lot of other reasons that were not because Prescott couldn't handle the pressure. I don't get it, I watched the game it's kind of hard to play when you don't have a run game or a physical offensive line that can block or guys who are running routes wrong or the play calls are ridiculous and you don't have the best coaching you might want to add in that Mahomes and Brady also had Bill Belichick and Andy Reed and a bunch of other players around them.

No quarterback can win on his own in this league once you get into the playoffs, you have to have your team support, you want a good recent example, how about this Patrick mahomes was losing in the Super bowl at halftime, they could not seem to catch up when they were playing like they played most of the year and guess what they did Andy Reed makes halftime adjustments that come out and ran the damn ball down the throats, the Eagles defense kept allowing chunk yards by a bunch of spares RBBC and Kansas city's defense was able to shut down the Eagles run game and make them one-dimensional and guess what happens jalen hurts fumbles they can't seem to consistently maintain drives and they got beat they got beat. Patrick mahomes team, you know his coaches his run game, and his offensive line didn't give up one sack, that's why they won the game.

the team stepped up, the coaches made adjustments, and that's how it works, I agree Patrick mahomes is probably the best quarterback in the league but there aren't very many elite quarterbacks that you speak of so the other teams have to use players like Prescott that means a team has to be built well that goes for all teams then because if we're talking about one quarterback being truly elite that has an elite head coach who calls the plays at an elite level.

so again, the rest of the league are in the same situation we are trying to find a quarterback that if you give him the right players around them and they come in and play well, you win,

if not, you lose... I'm saying quarterbacks all last playoff series, some of the ones are supposed to be great have games where they have three or four turnovers, we've also seen quarterbacks like Matthew Stafford win a Super Bowl leading the league in turnovers and having two turnovers in the Super bowl , explain how Prescott can't do the same if the team backs him up much in the same way, establish defense ,establish the run game, make adjustments, call the right plays at the right moments and execute properly,

that's football...
I agree there are 31 other teams in the NFL. This post was about Dak and my reply was about Dak...
 

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Why can't people be allowed to form their own opinions without being labeled? They're haters because their opinions don't align with yours, right? You wouldn't be labeling them haters otherwise.
That is exactly right. You get labeled hater and troll just because of disagreement. It's disgusting.
 

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Apparently some fans are still looking into the sun for far too long without their sunglasses on :facepalm:o_O

they somehow think Cooper rush can win games, I don't care how stacked we're going to be on defense, we're going to need a quarterback to win games when the defense does allow points or is getting beat or we have injuries.

I think it's odd or ironic or whatever word you want to use that Cooper rush didn't get one offer for a backup quarterback position or starting but somehow our fan base think this guy can win 10 games they must have forgot to watch those five games again that he played in and find out how he just wasn't even that good a backup quarterback, he was a placeholder, he wasn't even a bus driver the bus was on cruise control but there is no defense I can remember that can play all 17 games like that and especially in the playoffs...

again, the fan base is delusional if they think this team is so good it can win with Cooper rush. SMH :popcorn::oldcouple:
Apparently we also need a QB who can win against good teams, who doesn't make critical mistakes at the worse times.
 

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Contracts don't impact me watching the Cowboys. For players I like or are meh about.
Unless the Cowboys want to beat the market before Herbert and Burrows sign, there's no real benefit to signing him this year.
Any new extension signed would add new prorated bonus to his current cap hit.
Unless he's willing to take a "discount" to sign this year, just wait till next year.
 
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