CFZ If the QB doesn't get a new contract, how will you watch this season?

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Not enough to make waves within the organization.
I don't know Coach.
IF the number one cash cow player (Parsons) is disgruntled enough that he tells management he can't win championships with this QB, so trade me somewhere else, then those type conversations could cause some major organizational discussions imo.
 

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Agent's Take: How Cowboys can make re-signing Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb and Trevon Diggs add up​



...The Cowboys will be caught between a rock and hard place by waiting until next year to address Prescott's situation when he is in his contract year. He has clause a prohibiting Dallas from designating him as a franchise or transition player in 2025 should he play out his contract.

Prescott has the NFL's second largest 2024 cap number at $59.455 million thanks to Dallas restructuring his contract for cap purposes on three different occasions since he signed. If Prescott regresses badly this season, the Cowboys will be contending with $61.915 million of dead money, a salary cap charge for a player no longer on the roster by releasing him. It would be the same amount with a trade, which would require Prescott waiving his no-trade clause.

The quarterback market has increased dramatically since Prescott became the league's second-highest-paid player at $40 million per year in March 2021 on a four-year, $160 million deal with $126 million in guarantees. The $95 million fully guaranteed at signing and $66 million signing bonus were the most ever in an NFL contract at the time...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...prescott-ceedee-lamb-and-trevon-diggs-add-up/
 

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Agent's Take: How Cowboys can make re-signing Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb and Trevon Diggs add up​



...The Cowboys will be caught between a rock and hard place by waiting until next year to address Prescott's situation when he is in his contract year. He has clause a prohibiting Dallas from designating him as a franchise or transition player in 2025 should he play out his contract.

Prescott has the NFL's second largest 2024 cap number at $59.455 million thanks to Dallas restructuring his contract for cap purposes on three different occasions since he signed. If Prescott regresses badly this season, the Cowboys will be contending with $61.915 million of dead money, a salary cap charge for a player no longer on the roster by releasing him. It would be the same amount with a trade, which would require Prescott waiving his no-trade clause.

The quarterback market has increased dramatically since Prescott became the league's second-highest-paid player at $40 million per year in March 2021 on a four-year, $160 million deal with $126 million in guarantees. The $95 million fully guaranteed at signing and $66 million signing bonus were the most ever in an NFL contract at the time...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...prescott-ceedee-lamb-and-trevon-diggs-add-up/
Not counting a 5th year option, most players get an extension with 1 year left on their contract. There's absolutely no reason to extend Dak this year. Especially after they just restructured his contract. You do it next year before the season starts. That will automatically restructure that 2024 cap hit.

This also gives the front office the opportunity not to extend Dak if he craps the bed and the team misses the playoffs.
 

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Not counting a 5th year option, most players get an extension with 1 year left on their contract. There's absolutely no reason to extend Dak this year. Especially after they just restructured his contract. You do it next year before the season starts. That will automatically restructure that 2024 cap hit.

This also gives the front office the opportunity not to extend Dak if he craps the bed and the team misses the playoffs.
If they wanted to be naive and not take the current gamble to retain their four stars and get them all done for a very strong base of their team. QB, HOF LB, CB, WR...

This is Jerry's year...you guys want a Lombardi contender or not?
 

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If they wanted to be naive and not take the current gamble to retain their four stars and get them all done for a very strong base of their team. QB, HOF LB, CB, WR...

This is Jerry's year...you guys want a Lombardi contender or not?
Diggs and Lamb are up this year. They have to wait until next year to extend Parsons. But Dak isn't up until next year. If they wanted to extend Dak this year, there would be no reason to have restructured his contract, as an extension already includes a restructure.
 

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I posed this in another thread but thought it would be an interesting topic here, if all posters can really be honest with their answers.

First off, I am going to say Prescott is a more polarizing player than Romo was and I could see fans of the team actually pulling against their own team to try and get rid of him.

It is an oddity but it is there, many just don't want him to be the DC QB. The question is enough to pull against him and the team?

I gotta say, if I disliked him at QB as much as some here do, and evidently that is not exclusive to the Zone, I might be tempted to pull for a QB crash and burn.

And I am not going to ask if not him, then whom because those that really dislike Prescott do not care, I really do believe they have arrived at "anyone but him".

I am also not going to say if they go that route they are not good fans. Plenty of fans have pulled for their teams to get worse in order to get better.

So, my question is mainly to those that do not like him. If he does not get a new contract, can you pull for him and the team knowing he will get another one and most likely larger than the extension he might have gotten?

Oh, I know, the Joneses intend on extending him but they intended on getting him on a new contract before they had to do that 160M one. He's bet on himself before and won.
Dak with no new contract this year would give me a little extra hope.

Mainly hope for management. Last year's play just doesn't justify a new contract if you actually want to win. Does Jerry? I dunno.

To extend Dak as the franchise QB after last year would be a yuge "good enough".
 

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Diggs and Lamb are up this year. They have to wait until next year to extend Parsons. But Dak isn't up until next year. If they wanted to extend Dak this year, there would be no reason to have restructured his contract, as an extension already includes a restructure.
Good discussion here...Does Dallas gain further now, with a renewed negotiation with Dak Prescott?

So the offensive and defensive passing games should be in the sights for now?

My curiosity, beyond another player butting heads exercise, would the current balances gained push on out to the strength players filling out current starting positions and keep most positions on the team? Next season.

There should still be some very good as well as inexpensive players starting to reach strong NFL performances...offensive linemen, linebackers, and secondary.
 

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No you’re haters because for the 1 billionth time a hater is someone like you who almost ALWAYS *****es and complains and mostly about Dak. It’s ok to criticize a player, coach, etc. but to DO NOTHING but rag on Dak is a friken hater.
..have to agree here. I seen some posters, really dish out derogatives to certain players on regular basis. Does become tiresome after while. (shrugs shoulders)
 

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The only good thing that will occur if they give INEPTO an extension is that I will have more than a valid reason to wash my hands of the Jones Circus.
Again I stress that Dak will not survive this coming season esp without his mental support (Moore, Zeke, and Shultz) out on the field to hold his hand.
Have no doubt this team is at its most important crossroad and the Dak decision will tell the tale of what the future holds for 28 years and counting franchise!
I don't believe you're ready to wash your hands of the Cowboys. The current group of players aren't guilty of what happened the previous 28 years.

Relax & enjoy 2023. It could turn out to be every bit as bad as you think, but you'll get at least 10 wins to get your hopes up before they'll crash just like they always have. That gives you about 8 months to gloat.

See ya in 2024.
 

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Good discussion here...Does Dallas gain further now, with a renewed negotiation with Dak Prescott?

So the offensive and defensive passing games should be in the sights for now?

My curiosity, beyond another player butting heads exercise, would the current balances gained push on out to the strength players filling out current starting positions and keep most positions on the team? Next season.

There should still be some very good as well as inexpensive players starting to reach strong NFL performances...offensive linemen, linebackers, and secondary.
Dallas has a pretty good cap situation with a lot of options. Do they keep DLaw after this season? What about Tyron Smith? A Dak extension alone would open up 35-40 million in space. They can pretty much pay who they want.
 

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The only good thing that will occur if they give INEPTO an extension is that I will have more than a valid reason to wash my hands of the Jones Circus.
Again I stress that Dak will not survive this coming season esp without his mental support (Moore, Zeke, and Shultz) out on the field to hold his hand.
Have no doubt this team is at its most important crossroad and the Dak decision will tell the tale of what the future holds for 28 years and counting franchise!
better to watch games and root for them to lose, in playoffs, the ol div round loss.
Mentally dak losing those 3 may affect him, cant be sure, have to wait and see.
I think dak is one big reason elliot got the contract, and was starter up until even last season.
Dak not having him will be a big change for him.also shultz who was often his go to guy, and then kellen he was used to.
 

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All That Spin and Projection just to ask this one question

Geez

What is success? . . . Is it reaching The NFC Championship. . . Is it a Super Bowl Appearance? . . . A Super bowl Win?

The answer will vary by many but this is my Idea of Success Dak balling out and putting the team on His Back and being the reason we win the game.

If this team carries Him to the Super Bowl in a ridiculously weak NFC then no Dak should not be rewarded

If this team is in the Super Bowl and Dak lays an Egg and cracks under the Pressure, Then no Dak does not get rewarded

But if this defense is being picked apart all game and Dak fights through it and makes the Game winning play with :30 seconds remaining then Yes he gets rewarded

If Dak jumps on the team and keeps His foot on their throat until the End and wins a Blowout then Yes He gets Rewarded

Not for nothing but there are no guarantees Dak finishes out the year as the Starter . . . Anything could happen

(I believe if Dak takes significant preseason snaps this year that it will be very telling)
sadly though if team gets past div round, which puts them in champ game, jerry will see that as progress, and will extend dak.
I think it may depend a little on what mike actually thinks of dak though, and if he is brave enough to voice his opinion to jerry.
I think it also depends on just how it all goes this season, for a lot of things.

also if kellen lights it up with herbert, what will that say to jerry ??
Chargers have been on the edge of playoffs since they got herbert, and last year finally got in, only to have jags surprise them.
more offense in 2nd half would have won that game, but they need better defense too.
 

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Dallas has a pretty good cap situation with a lot of options. Do they keep DLaw after this season? What about Tyron Smith? A Dak extension alone would open up 35-40 million in space. They can pretty much pay who they want.
D Law will stay after 2023 and Smith will probably just retire.
 

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better to watch games and root for them to lose, in playoffs, the ol div round loss.
Mentally dak losing those 3 may affect him, cant be sure, have to wait and see.
I think dak is one big reason elliot got the contract, and was starter up until even last season.
Dak not having him will be a big change for him.also shultz who was often his go to guy, and then kellen he was used to.
Correct they paid Zeke cause they knew (esp after the 6 games Zeke missed) that without him our offense was R.I.P.
What was that record Dakko set during Zeke's absence hmmmmm 15 Quarters of str8 offense without a TD?
Yep, all his mental support blankets are gone(Zeke, Shultz, Moore) and they better bring in extra towels cause he will be sweating plenty out there this season!!!!!
 

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Dallas has a pretty good cap situation with a lot of options. Do they keep DLaw after this season? What about Tyron Smith? A Dak extension alone would open up 35-40 million in space. They can pretty much pay who they want.
The Cowboys have some unfinished financial business before training camp starts in late July. Contract extensions for cornerback Trevon Diggs, wide receiver CeeDee Lamb and quarterback Dak Prescott are on Dallas' radar screen.

Cowboys chief operating officer and executive vice president Stephen Jones addressed the subject during the team's mandatory minicamp camp, which was held June 6-8.

"No specific order," Jones said. "It's just kind of when opportunity arises. ... But if the opportunity is there, we sure would like to get 1-2-3 of these guys signed. We'd love to do more than one, if we could (before training camp). Just because you want to doesn't mean (you can), it takes two to tango."

Salary cap room won't be an issue. The Cowboys currently have $21.8 million of 2023 salary cap space, according to NFLPA data.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...prescott-ceedee-lamb-and-trevon-diggs-add-up/

Stephen and the players have until 17 July to build more than a bank account.
 

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How many more players will waste their careers here because of Dak? Because of Jerry's idocy, I won't be watching anything but the 15 minute highlight reel after the game on youtube. No more wasted Sundays for me. Dak will fizzle and fold like a card table once again.
 
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