CFZ If this team fizzles again-the off-season was a big reason

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Sorry to say Jerry didnt throw the pick 6 at end of regulation.
Jerry didnt throw at 3rd and 10 instead of running out the clock.


Whenever Cowboys lose, fans point finger at Jerry and Stephen. They have assembled a decent roster with a chance to win both Packers and Jags games.
 

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Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”

Great post Bob. Well stated analysis.

The FO is most certainly the main culprit and common denominator for years of mediocrity and underachievement.

The culture, values, and approach/philosophy that are on display by this organization’s top “leaders” leave a LOT to be desired.

Disappointing to say the least, and here we find ourselves watching the same movie play out again.

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Great post Bob. Well stated analysis.

The FO is most certainly the main culprit and common denominator for years of mediocrity and underachievement.

The culture, values, and approach/philosophy that are on display by this organization’s top “leaders” leave a LOT to be desired.

Disappointing to say the least, and here we find ourselves watching the same movie play out again.

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Always love a “Groundhog Day” reference!
Sorry to say Jerry didnt throw the pick 6 at end of regulation.
Jerry didnt throw at 3rd and 10 instead of running out the clock.


Whenever Cowboys lose, fans point finger at Jerry and Stephen. They have assembled a decent roster with a chance to win both Packers and Jags games.
27 years will do that to a fan. I stated in the OP some of this is on the coaches and players too. Jerry wants all the credit. Shouldn’t Jerry and his DNA fortunate son accept some of the blame too?
 

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Exactly right and this is why Philly will continue to run circles around us.

Just think of the outside additions they've made:

WR: AJ Brown
DL: Haasan Reddick, Javon Hargrave, Ndamukong Suh, Linval Joseph
CB: Darius Slay, James Bradberry
S: Chauncey Gardner Johnson

This is the core group that is putting them over the top. They had a similar approach with their last SB team. Roseman is aggressive and is always looking for ways to improve his team and win a SB. The Jones boys are just happy with justifying being cheap by remaining a middling team and making the playoffs every few years.
 

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Sorry to say Jerry didnt throw the pick 6 at end of regulation.
Jerry didnt throw at 3rd and 10 instead of running out the clock.


Whenever Cowboys lose, fans point finger at Jerry and Stephen. They have assembled a decent roster with a chance to win both Packers and Jags games.
And have refused to address the fact that we keep losing in the playoff because we can't stop the run.

Hey, if you're going to state facts, get 'em all in there.
 

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Exactly right and this is why Philly will continue to run circles around us.

Just think of the outside additions they've made:

WR: AJ Brown
DL: Haasan Reddick, Javon Hargrave, Ndamukong Suh, Linval Joseph
CB: Darius Slay, James Bradberry
S: Chauncey Gardner Johnson

This is the core group that is putting them over the top. They had a similar approach with their last SB team. Roseman is aggressive and is always looking for ways to improve his team and win a SB. The Jones boys are just happy with justifying being cheap by remaining a middling team and making the playoffs every few years.
If we had just signed Hargrave out of that group, we would've won both the JAX and GB games. It would've made that much difference.
 

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Our GM is obsessed with WRs and “War Daddys”. They sell more tickets and jerseys than trench hogs that can stuff the running game. Oh the irony.

Exactly. Roseman understands what wins football games. The Joneses are at this for 3 decades and still have no idea how to build a contender.
 

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Sorry to say Jerry didnt throw the pick 6 at end of regulation.
Jerry didnt throw at 3rd and 10 instead of running out the clock.


Whenever Cowboys lose, fans point finger at Jerry and Stephen. They have assembled a decent roster with a chance to win both Packers and Jags games.

The fans are right to point all the fingers at Jerry for one very good reason - "Jocks to socks!"

He wants the credit so bad he derailed the greatest dynasty that was ever going to be for it. So now he certainly gets blame for the failures now getting close to 30 years.
 

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I look at the defense and think they are a year away from being as dominant as we first thought. After all, we are relying heavily on three starting rookies and three starting 2nd year players. That's more than half the starting defense with less than two years' experience. Two of these players were supposed to be backup/projects but injuries put them in play.

Most of the rotational players and/or backups fall into the same category. Parsons, Joseph, Osa, Bland, Clark, Williams, Bohanna, Mukuamu, Wright, Golston, they are not experienced enough to form a dominating defense this season. However, next season? They will be better.

The Cowboys are trending in the wrong direction, we all realize this. The next indication would be a Cowboy loss to the Eagles absent Jalen Hurts. At least, it would prove that Parsons was right about Jalen and the Eagles.

The Dallas Cowboys became an iconic franchise because they won consistently in the late 60's to the mid 80's.

Consider this,

The Dallas Cowboys had 20 consecutive winning seasons from 1966 to 1985 in which they won 12 division titles, went to 12 NFC title games, 5 Super Bowls and won 2 Super Bowls.

This meant that the Dallas Cowboys had the last or second to last pick in the draft 5 times during those 20 seasons. They were in the bottom quarter of the draft in all remaining seasons.

So how could a team that consistently drafted last or near to last in the league maintain such a dominant team?

They had a GM, JC, and VP of Personnel that didn't just work their jobs, they LIVED their jobs. They weren't jobs, they were callings. Their search for perfection never ended.

That's what it takes. It takes a committed, dedicated, FOCUSED executive group to build a team that consistently competes in the playoffs.

They left no stone unturned.

They drafted a QB in the 12th round with a six year military commitment because he would have been the 1st player picked in the draft otherwise. It tuned out to be a good investment when Roge Staubach led them to tehri first Super Bowl championship

They traded their #1 draft pick to another team for a future 1st round pick because they knew the following draft had better talent. Their trade partner tanked and it ended up being the #1 overall pick, Ed Too Tall Jones

They traded their back up quarterback to another team that tanked a few seasons later. That pick was #2 overall and it was HOFer Randy White.

They drafted two Olympic stars. The first was HOFer Bob Hayes who ended up redefining WR coverage. The other was Carl Lewis....well, you can't win them all.

They found a basketball player and turned him into both a Pro Bowl CB, then a Pro Bowl safety.

They drafted an Air force Academy cadet with a military commitment who served in the Gulf and then became an important D-linemen during the 90's, Chad Hennings.

They drafted a RB in the 5th round after that RB committed to a different league. Every other team had at least four chances to do the same. Don't forget, those teams of the 90's don't exist unless Tex Schram makes that move

They did these things because they dedicated practically every available minute of their business days towards one thing and one thing only.....making the Dallas Cowboys a stronger team.

Nowadays, it's all fluff. I don't think to this day that Jerry understands just how informed Cowboys fans insist on being. We gather and analyze information. we compare. Generally speaking, we have a pretty good idea of what other teams do.

Other teams hire GM's or HC's with GM duties.

They hire GM's based on something called "credentials". That's because credentials are the proof that this guy knows what he is doing. Credentials are his record of past success at previous levels. he probably started as a junior scout, perhaps an ex-player. He was promoted to regional scout as the result his success. After contributing to the team's success at that position he would become an assistant director of personnel, later to the Director position itself. This entire process would take 15-20 years.

The search for a GM would be a critical decision by an owner. Therefore , he would take this selection extremely seriously, it would make or break his legacy as a team owner. The vetting process had to be complete. All possible candidates had to be considered based on their credentials.

After such an intense search for the perfect GM for the Cowboys, imagine how shocked Jerry Jones had to be when he discovered that the best candidate was......himself!

His great fortune didn't end there. It turns out that the best candidates for Vice president of Operations and Vice president of Marketing also lived under his roof.

And so family has replaced credentials. The problem is that winning........losing........doesn't care who you are related to or how much money you have. In the NFL, as in competition in general, it's about who has the better team.

Part time GM's in a family run franchise might have great players, but they never have the better team.

You might counter with the assumption that McClay is the GM in everything but the title, but that's not true. The GM's make those critical decisions and we all know that's not McClay.
 

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Good post Plasticman. Part time GMs in a family run franchise can have great players because they get to draft from the best players on earth. Only about 2k guys in the world are good enough to play at the NFL level, and draft day concentrates them all in one place. Throwing darts blindfolded at a suggestion board the first couple of rounds will find you some great players. I don't give any credit to Jerry there as a result.
 

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INJURIES have been a big issue. If we get beat, I blame that largely. We are beat up badly.
 

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I am not ready to anoint Sirianni. He has an all-star team and all he had to do is not screw it up. If Jacksonville makes the playoffs, I think Doug Peterson will deserve coach of the year more.

And while I have been very critical of the Cowboys offseason blunders, it is hard to compare them to the Eagles because the Eagles QB is on his rookie deal. They had the room to bring on an AJ Brown. They also had the draft capital.

The Eagles clearly went all out this year to win a Super Bowl. They are taking the opportunity while Hurts is get paid squat to fill their roster with top talent. Maybe this is a model for the rest of the league to follow. build a great team around an young QB and just make sure the QB doesn't screw things up.
 

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I LUV LUV LUV how this place has again turned on this team, predicting doom and gloom same witj the media etc

why?

Lets see,

before a game was played this season this place stated we at best would be 7-10 because we had a terrible offseason, one of the worst in history,

then,
game 1 we lose ugly to the Bucs and Dak goes down....

Que the doom and gloomers to pounce again...

this place said no way we could even win 4 games with Rush as a backup, no #1 wr, everyone sux and its OVER and stated the rumor Jerry was organically tanking by not restocking talent.

even some said the draft had 73 as a project and others taken were suspect and overrated. reach ios the word we heard A LOT!!!


Odd not one of those things held true.....

Now we have Fans doing it again, saying we can not win a playoff game, its over saying we are supposed to have an endless amount of depth to cover up so many injuries at the same positions?

sure count us out, its worked great so far .

10-4 maybe a 12 win season B2B playoff berths , yes please

everyone talk like its over.
 

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Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”

You are partially right....however, Chuckles worries about the cap years in advance...it's a total obsession with him.
 

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Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”
Confirmation bias.

Suh is the 5th DT in terms of snaps played in the most recent game. The Eagles have good starting DTs.

Fowler has 5 sacks and 7 tackles for loss as a non-starter.

Re-signing Armstrong was part of the off-season and he has 8 sacks.

Sam Williams with 3 sacks.

Total 16 sacks by DEs acquired or re-signed in the off-season.

James Washington has been out injured. That could happen to any free agent.

They covered themselves at the critical position of LT...

They added a starring LB with a 5th round pick.

They added 2 TEs that have been key contributors.

They added a veteran WR well in advance of the playoffs.

They added key utility OLineman Peters.

Really the only 2 moves they could have made in March:
Sign a monster DT to 18M+ per season.
- A mid-tier DT was not really going to help.

Sign a big time WR for 20M+ per season instead of re-signing Gallup.
 

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That's why I never focus on one player. One player isn't going to fix this circus. You need a hard nosed coach like Payton or Arian who'll come in here kickin azzzz and telling Jerry where to go. But of course, this will never happen. Good post OP. But it's all a dream....First thing they need to do is get out oof California. But Jerry loves the press and the money. Not going to happen.
 
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