CFZ If this team fizzles again-the off-season was a big reason

pacy

pacy

82 WITTEN 82
Messages
2,283
Reaction score
3,291
Well, the Vikings have a shot at the number one seed.
 
Loso86

Loso86

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,330
Reaction score
4,220
Bobhaze said:
10-4 is good. And we should be glad considering how this year started. But isn’t the bottom line of every season what we do or don’t do in the playoffs? If we are one and done again, should we be happy?
Click to expand...
Ok great so hoe about we wait to see what the end holds before we start conjuring of conclusions and excuses already
 
shabazz

shabazz

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,093
Reaction score
36,777
john van brocklin said:
Yep we find bizarre ways to lose football games.
You can't make this stuff up.
Click to expand...

To be honest, I was ready to go on a rant about the officials reviewing the out of bounds call until just a few hours later they did the same exact thing in the Giants- Skins game.

almost inserted my size 12 in mouth
 
shabazz

shabazz

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,093
Reaction score
36,777
rambo2 said:
Tom Brady is licking his wounds after getting his butt kicked.
Click to expand...

thats very true but it still doesn’t stop his success against the Cowboys……I would LOVE to see that come to a screeching halt!
 
rambo2

rambo2

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,996
Reaction score
17,092
shabazz said:
thats very true but it still doesn’t stop his success against the Cowboys……I would LOVE to see that come to a screeching halt!
Click to expand...
The Cowboys are a much better team than they are.
 
Bobhaze

Bobhaze

Staff member
Messages
19,110
Reaction score
76,185
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Loso86 said:
Ok great so hoe about we wait to see what the end holds before we start conjuring of conclusions and excuses already
Click to expand...
The first 4 words of this post were: “IF this team fizzles…”. Didn’t say they already have. I hope they go on a long win streak. Hopefully they can. It’s just hard to deny we’ve haven’t seen this movie before.
 
Nova

Nova

Ntegrase96
Messages
10,798
Reaction score
12,919
Bobhaze said:
And when your two big FO people have deals for life- regardless of results- there’s no urgency to win NOW. Anyone saying Jerry and Stephen want to win I just respond by saying, “Not bad enough to make the necessary changes.” They never learn from their mistakes because they don’t have to.
Click to expand...

Either they’re stupid or their priorities lie elsewhere.

Personally, with the moves they make, it seems like they’re more interested in building a team that is competitive in the most surface level sense.

As long as they’re good enough to be talked about, that’s all they need
 
Verdict

Verdict

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,250
Reaction score
20,540
Bobhaze said:
Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”
Click to expand...
I generally agree with your posts, but I can’t get fully on board with this one. I think the Cowboys have done an excellent job of creating a very deep and talented roster. The free agent acquisitions were prudent, frugal, yet effective pieces to the puzzle.

The Cowboys may not have gone as “all in” as the Eagles, but they have a rookie wage scale QB and we don’t. A. J. Brown is a difference maker, for sure but we couldn’t afford him without gutting the rest of the team.

The thing that I criticize is the “piss off” Jospeh pick. We need Joseph to step up and he is a big fat ZERO. Wright was also a swing and a miss. But Bland sort of negates that miss.

They better be hunting a corner for the playoffs or it will be a huge Achilles heel.
 
Diehardblues

Diehardblues

Well-Known Member
Messages
58,588
Reaction score
39,143
Bobhaze said:
The first 4 words of this post were: “IF this team fizzles…”. Didn’t say they already have. I hope they go on a long win streak. Hopefully they can. It’s just hard to deny we’ve haven’t seen this movie before.
Click to expand...
You’re right. And why we shouldn’t be surprised to continue seeing retakes . We should after almost 3 decades become accustomed. And at some point adjust our expectations.
 
nightrain

nightrain

Since 1971
Messages
15,163
Reaction score
25,297
Bobhaze said:
Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”
Click to expand...
So Hazey, just a hunch here, I take it you don't have an office at the Star.
 
ChronicCowboy

ChronicCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,543
Reaction score
16,005
Eagles are run far better as an organization than the Cowboys are. But they’ll never be worth what the Cowboys are and that’s all Jerry bases his success on now.
 
TequilaCowboy

TequilaCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,077
Reaction score
8,684
Bobhaze said:
Three games left. And the Cowboys are swooning in the same manner they did as last year. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaching staff, culture, etc. The usual suspects around here.

But if this team craters in the same manner as last year, I place a majority of the blame on the completely unaccountable front office who looks at the off season as a vacation on the yacht and looking at Will McClay’s scouting binders to select players for the draft.

While the GMs of teams winning playoff games are focused on winning now, Stephen Jones is focused on next years cap.

Our drafts have improved, but the use of Free agency to get better has not. The teams getting better in the off-season are led by young aggressive GMs whose jobs are on the line.

Hate to say it…but our chief divisional rival had a great off season. Their GM is the young and aggressive Howie Roseman. He had a fundamental understanding of what his team needed to get better. Look at his off-season moves compared to ours:
  • Roseman hired the young and aggressive Nick Sirianni as HC in 2021.
  • Roseman acquired WR AJ Brown in a trade, recognizing Jalen Hurts needed help to develop into a better passer. (Our FO cut Amari Cooper and replaced him with 3rd rd pick Jalen Tolbert, cheap FA James Washington- combined have 2 catches- both by Tolbert)
  • Roseman saw THIS SEASON as their year to make bold moves. (Stephen Jones is always worried about next year’s cap)
  • Roseman acquired LB Haason Reddick, an underrated player who has upgraded the eagles defense.(We signed DE Dante Fowler for a lot less- he has had almost zero impact)
  • In season, Roseman acquired Ndomincan Suh to upgrade their run defense (We acquired DT Jonathan Hankins for a 7th round pick. Not exactly bold.)
This could go on and on. The players, coaches and culture share some blame in Big D for underperforming. But it’s way more than that. The front offices of the better teams this year spent the off season saying, “We want to win now- what bold moves can we make?” Our front office says, “We want to win now BUT- we don’t want to hurt our cap for next year.”
Click to expand...

And what is even funnier, is they will do the same this off season. There is no responsibility and accountability for winning. It is just a pipe dream and if it happens, they will take the credit.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top