I'm not letting this coaching staff off the hook just because we won

[Falco78]

4 for 56 in the 1st half and 3 for 46 in the 2nd half. Are we seriously going to complain about a 7 for 102 yard game from Dez?

Yes this forum will complain about the sun rising!

 

[Falco78]

blame jerry all you want but he is only taking players marinelli is instructing him to based on who fits his seemingly uber specific defense.

That I doubt, I can see multiple heated talks we are not hearing

 

[CATCH17]

Yes this forum will complain about the sun rising!

Because it's not the best way to use Dez.

We still don't put him in catch and run situations. Just like TO.

I'm glad they finally pulled their heads out of their ying yang and decided we need to target him more but they need to get Dez in catch and run situations.

Take advantage of those 8 and 9 man front's on first down by just simply running a slant route against man coverage. 1 broken tackle and its a touchdown.

2nd down.. Why does he have to clear out for Witten and Beasley? Let the guy drag across the middle and catch it and put his foot on the gas. DB's are terrified of this players RAC ability .

 

[theebs]

That I doubt, I can see multiple heated talks we are not hearing

You think it is a coincidence we just started drafting guys that only fit marinelli's style? We have taken defensive players who were lower rated on the draft board because they fit Rod's defense. The coaches dictate the personnel here and then jerry and the rest look for players within the guidelines. Its been that way since parcells was here.

 

[waving monkey]

It's gotten so bad that making a team punt almost feels like a INT or Fumble.

we won

 

[CATCH17]

we won

Yay.. Big picture here. We're not the Browns. We want titles.

Im tired of the same old story with this team. Are you?

I'm extremely upset that management tried to sell us on this defense and it looks as awful as it does and has pretty much screwed our season from the get go and right now all we can hope for is Lawrence and Gregory coming back and being great.

 

[waving monkey]

we won

 

[Proximo]

"I'm not letting this coaching staff off the hook just because we won"

Translation:

We won the game but I'm still going to complain about the coaches immediately after the game ends anyway.

I'll give credit to OP though, by wording it the way he did he tries to give the impression that he has some tangible way to hold the coaching staff accountable to his personal standards (aside from complaining on an Internet message board). Good stuff.

 

[MileyDancer]

These statements crack me up.

awesome.

 

[renny]

Had DerkaKirk Cousins not overthrown a few times, we would have lost by at least 10.

Garrett's offenses have almost always struggled in the redzone, going back to when he was OC. We can't keep settling for FG's. They need to be more creative in the redzone.

I'm straight up done with Marinelli. The guy has had one good season, and even then our defense was average, but had a ton of turnovers.

I thought Byron Jones was supposed to be the center field type of safety, he was not in position for those two passes that were over thrown. The coaches don't have him playing center field and Church is not in the box.

 

[theebs]

I thought Byron Jones was supposed to be the center field type of safety, he was not in position for those two passes that were over thrown. The coaches don't have him playing center field and Church is not in the box.

he was coming up and playing wr and reed down in the box though. Didn't you notice reed was basically M.I.A. after the half?

 

[NextGenBoys]

It was good to see them use a play that was actually giving the defense trouble today with the bootleg but there is still too many problems.


Are we ever going to take advantage of 8 and 9 guys in the box on first down or are we satisfied with just letting them cheat on that play?

Dez completely disappeared again in the 2nd half... Why not give him some quick bubble screens on those first downs where they crowd the box.. He is one broken tackle away from scoring.

We all like the onside kick simply because our defense sucks but I think most of us can acknowledge it wasn't the right thing to do.


I'm happy we won but I still don't like this 50/50 brand of football we played.. Good to see these coaches get a win without Romo. (Against the same team they did it with last year)

Also, I can't help but ask myself why we totally skipped out on defense in free agency when watching these games. Our defense is so bad.

Feels like nitpicking. We passed a decent amount on first downs yesterday it seemed. I'd say pretty close to 50/50, and it 2014 I think we ran 80% of the time on 1st. I can't say Dez disappeared at all. In our last TD drive, he caught a big 2 and 14 pass, and then we went back to him again, on a 2nd and 10, but Norman did a great job of getting his hand in Dez's body and breaking up the pass. The TD drive before that he caught a 16 yard post or dig route on 3rd and 11. All in the 2nd half, all on big play where we were behind the sticks. He didn't disappear at all.

Was it perfect? No, but I think that given the outcome and we have a rookie QB and RB playing in the 2nd game, I think we played and coached very well.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Because it's not the best way to use Dez.

We still don't put him in catch and run situations. Just like TO.

I'm glad they finally pulled their heads out of their ying yang and decided we need to target him more but they need to get Dez in catch and run situations.

Take advantage of those 8 and 9 man front's on first down by just simply running a slant route against man coverage. 1 broken tackle and its a touchdown.

2nd down.. Why does he have to clear out for Witten and Beasley? Let the guy drag across the middle and catch it and put his foot on the gas. DB's are terrified of this players RAC ability .

I think how they moved him around yesterday was a step in the right direction. If they do this for the remaining 14 games it gets him in favorable situations and he finishes with 1400 yards easily. I get what you're saying but it appears they're never going to alter the playbook to feature getting him the ball like a TO.

 

[CATCH17]

Feels like nitpicking. We passed a decent amount on first downs yesterday it seemed. I'd say pretty close to 50/50, and it 2014 I think we ran 80% of the time on 1st. I can't say Dez disappeared at all. In our last TD drive, he caught a big 2 and 14 pass, and then we went back to him again, on a 2nd and 10, but Norman did a great job of getting his hand in Dez's body and breaking up the pass. The TD drive before that he caught a 16 yard post or dig route on 3rd and 11. All in the 2nd half, all on big play where we were behind the sticks. He didn't disappear at all.

Was it perfect? No, but I think that given the outcome and we have a rookie QB and RB playing in the 2nd game, I think we played and coached very well.

I just can't accept that.

I'm happy we won but I still don't feel like our best players are being put in the most optimal position to really give teams fits.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I just can't accept that.

I'm happy we won but I still don't feel like our best players are being put in the most optimal position to really give teams fits.

I hate to even go there, but, I really think that with our youth this year, it really is a process. First game was awful, this game was better. Dez, bootlegs, etc. Hopefully we can build off of it and continue to improve.

 

[CATCH17]

I think how they moved him around yesterday was a step in the right direction. If they do this for the remaining 14 games it gets him in favorable situations and he finishes with 1400 yards easily. I get what you're saying but it appears they're never going to alter the playbook to feature getting him the ball like a TO.

You're right.. It's baby steps.. Lining him up in different spots and the bootleg is something.

We have been so bland that any adjustments are an improvement. It's shocking when we run a play that confuses the defense and the bootleg did that.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It was good to see them use a play that was actually giving the defense trouble today with the bootleg but there is still too many problems.


Are we ever going to take advantage of 8 and 9 guys in the box on first down or are we satisfied with just letting them cheat on that play?

Dez completely disappeared again in the 2nd half... Why not give him some quick bubble screens on those first downs where they crowd the box.. He is one broken tackle away from scoring.

We all like the onside kick simply because our defense sucks but I think most of us can acknowledge it wasn't the right thing to do.


I'm happy we won but I still don't like this 50/50 brand of football we played.. Good to see these coaches get a win without Romo. (Against the same team they did it with last year)

Also, I can't help but ask myself why we totally skipped out on defense in free agency when watching these games. Our defense is so bad.

I disagree. This was night and day as compared to last game. At least Garrett played to win this week and got aggressive. Got Dez moving around.

As far as Marinelli the guy has the worst talent in all the NFL to work with on D. Its a miracle we can even stop anyone.

 

[fifaguy]

The onside kick will be forgotten since we won.

But it was a pivotal play in terms of momentum that put the D on the spot.

Thankfully, they responded.

All in all, in terms of posterity, this will not be a game you look back at and say, wow, we turned a corner.

It is more like, we really won?

That seemed to be the reaction of the players as well...

 

[CATCH17]

I disagree. This was night and day as compared to last game. At least Garrett played to win this week and got aggressive. Got Dez moving around.

As far as Marinelli the guy has the worst talent in all the NFL to work with on D. Its a miracle we can even stop anyone.

Guys running free and letting the team constantly have the flats is not a lack of talent.

At the very least our guys should be in the area to make a play.. Let their suckiness take over from there but we're not even getting them in position.

If you're going to give them the flats than at least don't give them the option to go deep as well.

 

[Jinxx13x]

It was good to see them use a play that was actually giving the defense trouble today with the bootleg but there is still too many problems.


Are we ever going to take advantage of 8 and 9 guys in the box on first down or are we satisfied with just letting them cheat on that play?

Dez completely disappeared again in the 2nd half... Why not give him some quick bubble screens on those first downs where they crowd the box.. He is one broken tackle away from scoring.

We all like the onside kick simply because our defense sucks but I think most of us can acknowledge it wasn't the right thing to do.


I'm happy we won but I still don't like this 50/50 brand of football we played.. Good to see these coaches get a win without Romo. (Against the same team they did it with last year)

Also, I can't help but ask myself why we totally skipped out on defense in free agency when watching these games. Our defense is so bad.

I personally am sort of glad they are approaching FA differently we are getting younger and building through the draft that is the right way to do it ! Stephan Jones i believe has finally reigned in Jerry and his overpaying for players. I would have liked for them to get vernon but not at the price the giants paid but thats me, we have alot of pieces on the oline to get under contract soon.