I'm sorry but Cooper Rush isn't good

[GINeric]

That's nothing new for Dallas. Romo and Dak couldn't/can't and both have had 13-3 one seed opportunities.

You said Dak and Romo couldn't take a team to the championship game, right? Ok that's fair.

Well Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Dan Fouts and a host of other great quarterbacks couldn't take their teams to the Superbowl.

Well Colin Kaepernick did. So is it safe to say that Kaepernick was better than all NFL quarterbacks who never took their teams to a Superbowl?

 

[big dog cowboy]

So whos your backup qb?

Will Grier

 

[CowboyoWales]

You said Dak and Romo couldn't take a team to the championship game, right? Ok that's fair.

Well Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Dan Fouts and a host of other great quarterbacks couldn't take their teams to the Superbowl.

Well Colin Kaepernick did. So is it safe to say that Kaepernick was better than all NFL quarterbacks who never took their teams to a Superbowl?

Whichever way you look at it, Dak (and Romo wasnt) able to get there whilst accounting for a large CAP% hit.

 

[CowboyoWales]

To correctly evaluate Rush you'd need to remove the 17% CAP we've allocated to Dak and see his performance with the equivalent talent/weapons.

 

[G2]

To correctly evaluate Rush you'd need to remove the 17% CAP we've allocated to Dak and see his performance with the equivalent talent/weapons.

No, he's always been a back up caliber QB. Doesn't have the arm. Not to mention Jones sat on 20+ million in cap space, so the salary POV isn't really accurate.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

To correctly evaluate Rush you'd need to remove the 17% CAP we've allocated to Dak and see his performance with the equivalent talent/weapons.

Again by this logic if any NFL GM thought that Rush had the ability to be a legitimate starter for their team, who could get them a decent amount of wins then they would have sought out Cooper Rush by now. Logic would say that any NFL GM for a QB hungry team would try and sign a QB who they truly thought had the ability to at least elevated their team into one who could get an above .500 record even if by just a few games.

If you buy into what Jerry is telling you about the cap, then why doesn't an NFL GM who doesn't have an QB signed to a big contract and is in need of a QB sign Cooper Rush. Since he is so cheap and therefore if he had any actual skill some NFL GM would see that and bring him to their team where they would put better talent/weapons around him.

NFL GMs had sought out QBs from other teams like Justin Fields, RIddler, and Pickett. Yet won't even reach out to Jerry to try and get Cooper Rush, despite the whole narrative about how he has a winning record as a starter. If some NFL GM really thought his QB play was the main factor for the W-L record some credit him for then the Cowboys would eventually get an offer for him by an QB hungry team who was interested in trading draft compensation for Cooper Rush.

 

[shabazz]

Cooper Rush can suck it from the back.

Him missing Ferguson on that last throw kept a slip that would've returned 8 grand from cashing.

2 million vs 60 million

Who'd a thunk there'd be a difference?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Yes they did, they put the non exclusive franchise tag on Lamar so he was franchised but could still negotiate with other teams. Another team would have had to give up multiple 1st round picks to sign Lamar, and Baltimore would have had the ability to match any offer from another team.

It was a sham of a free agency experience for Lamar Jackson.

Yeah Cooper Rush was on the Cowboys practice squad for a while and didn't have another team try to get him. He also was a true free agent at some point and didn't get any offers to be a starter. If Lamar had been allowed to hit free agency without the Ravens attaching a tag to him then he definitely would have been signed to another team as their starter.

 

[kskboys]

To correctly evaluate Rush you'd need to remove the 17% CAP we've allocated to Dak and see his performance with the equivalent talent/weapons.

Or just evaluate his arm strength. It's not there. Next.

 

[CowboyoWales]

No, he's always been a back up caliber QB. Doesn't have the arm. Not to mention Jones sat on 20+ million in cap space, so the salary POV isn't really accurate.

Never said Rush was a starting QB. But if Rush was starting you'd save on Dak's CAP hit. You get Rush(esque) type QB (+ CAP Space) OR Elite QB. The difference is that the elite QB needs to play up to that contract, whereas the lesser QB has the roster to make up for his lesser abilities.

The CAP space is so relevant (we sit on it, because of Dak's hit in 2025).

 

[CowboyoWales]

Or just evaluate his arm strength. It's not there. Next.

Not saying about Rush's abilities, I'm saying that with the CAP saving on the inferior QB you'd improve the roster.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yes they did, they put the non exclusive franchise tag on Lamar so he was franchised but could still negotiate with other teams. Another team would have had to give up multiple 1st round picks to sign Lamar, and Baltimore would have had the ability to match any offer from another team.

It was a sham of a free agency experience for Lamar Jackson.

nothing like facts to debunk made up fallacies of some fantasy football type fans

 

[G2]

Never said Rush was a starting QB. But if Rush was starting you'd save on Dak's CAP hit. You get Rush(esque) type QB (+ CAP Space) OR Elite QB. The difference is that the elite QB needs to play up to that contract, whereas the lesser QB has the roster to make up for his lesser abilities.

The CAP space is so relevant (we sit on it, because of Dak's hit in 2025).

Flawed logic. You guys are blaming Prescott when it's the GMs inability to build a team. What was the excuse when he and Elliott were on their rookie contracts? This is why fans shouldn't concern themselves with salary when they're not in full possession of the facts.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Never said Rush was a starting QB. But if Rush was starting you'd save on Dak's CAP hit. You get Rush(esque) type QB (+ CAP Space) OR Elite QB. The difference is that the elite QB needs to play up to that contract, whereas the lesser QB has the roster to make up for his lesser abilities.

The CAP space is so relevant (we sit on it, because of Dak's hit in 2025).

the question is not cap space....its never been an issue. we had 23M on the cap this year and could have used it to sign a legit DT...but didn't.
the question is will we spend the cap space and the answer is clearly no.

and I am sure most will respond with, we need the cap space for next year, and the year after and the year afte....yet Jerry said he is all in......
you get a small window to do something special in the NFL and then pay the piper with dead cap space.....you don't just worry about next year all the time..... you win now.
look at the Rams...they went all in and they won a superbowl.
Philly reloaded with a bunch of new top 5 contracts they handed out...they are top 2 in NFC....

and I read multiple articles that with 3, 4 contract restructures we can open up about 65-70M in cap space....and we can still redo Dak's contract to have more space.

you don't live today for cap space of tomorrow. you invest today.....you had a 12-5 team that needed DL help and some saftey help...you go out and get it...you don't say, but 2025!!!!
secondly, there are 9 other teams that have QBs that are averaging 52M or more...you want to tell me because of 8M we are handicapped to sucking!!!! how is they are doing it? that includes GB, Detroit., chargers....

no, this narrative of cap space issue can be easily managed with a competent GM

 

[GINeric]

Whichever way you look at it, Dak (and Romo wasnt) able to get there whilst accounting for a large CAP% hit.

And that's cool, I get that, but you never answered the question....

Moon, Fouts, Cunningham and many other great quarterbacks weren't able to get their teams to a Superbowl.

Colin Kaepernick DID get his team to the Superbowl. So does that mean Kaepernick was a better quarterback than all great quarterbacks who never made it to a Superbowl?

 

[kskboys]

Not saying about Rush's abilities, I'm saying that with the CAP saving on the inferior QB you'd improve the roster.

Of course. Then you'd need a QB.

 

[GINeric]

Never said Rush was a starting QB. But if Rush was starting you'd save on Dak's CAP hit. You get Rush(esque) type QB (+ CAP Space) OR Elite QB. The difference is that the elite QB needs to play up to that contract, whereas the lesser QB has the roster to make up for his lesser abilities.

The CAP space is so relevant (we sit on it, because of Dak's hit in 2025).

Other than Mahomes, how many elite quarterbacks are playing up to their contracts in the NFL?

What's the playoff records of these elite quarterbacks making elite money? I'll guarantee you that all max contract quarterbacks don't have pretty playoff numbers. That includes some quarterbacks we call "elite".

 

[blueblood70]

Still don't understand the nitpicking on a backup quarterback look unless he's a guy in the waiting the next guy up just learning and the guy you had is a bridge guy are you telling me that this league is starving for starting quarterbacks they're like 10 maybe even 15 teams out there yearly looking for a starting quarterback and you're trying to tell me the Dallas Cowboys are supposed to have two great quarterbacks just raring to go I mean what era are you in?

There are not many backups in this league that once your starter goes out there's not gonna be a severe drop off unless your team is like absolutely insane good like all in and your quarterbacks a system quarterback and they can function somehow with a backup quarterback I mean you'd have to have a suffocating shutdown defense that's giving up less than 15 points a game or say like the Ravens greatest teams they assembled maybe even the bears those defenses are giving up under 12 a game, then adding a great run game so you have to be dominant in the trenches you're not covering up a backup quarterback on almost any team in this league once he goes down your starter you almost have no chance of functioning normally not against the better teams..

So what exactly did you expect from Cooper rush I think he's done an admirable job for what he is the fact is we've had about 20 injuries this year this is like 2020 it's a lost year what he's doing is he kept us competitive against some questionable teams and with Mike McCarthy as the play caller and not many extra weapons I mean Prescott was having a problem in this offense but at least Cooper Russ was giving a better defense and better run game and for some reason the offensive line is better without some of our starters so there was a shooter's chance here that we would at least be competitive and we were...

So why are we ripping on the Cowboys for keeping a Cooper rush here when you have a star quarterback a top ten quarterback and in some cases and I don't care what you think of them Prescott it's top five I mean he's gonna own every Dallas Cowboys record here he's a bonafide starter when he goes down you're gonna see a drop off that's just the way it is you're not gonna have a team so good that it they can carry a backup quarterback it just doesn't work that way teams get more weak every time they lose a key player and that's that's not starters and the Dallas Cowboys have lost so many I lost count this year so just be happy they were competitive don't get angry about the loss we're gonna get a good draft pick we're gonna get our starters back next year we're gonna do all over again but I don't think Cooper rush has embarrassed himself but everybody knew this and there are still people out there St. Cooper rush is better fit for this offense in this team than Prescott is and they are absolutely a name I can't even say on here but we'll just call him delusional and ridiculous they don't understand and what their eyes are seeing.​

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The irony here is that rush had a better offensive line a better run game and a better defense than Prescott had all year when you have your starter like that and you have your guys play like that the game wouldn't have come down to that weird punt the Dallas Cowboys would have beat in my opinion the Bengals wait no problems had Prescott been the quarterback and I know people are not gonna like that statement but when you give him that kind of run game and if you look around his favorite player on that last play CD lamb running wide open he wouldn't have missed him 'cause he would've been looking for him first but I don't believe we would have lost that game with our starter Prescott loves it when we have a run game and a decent defense that's all he's asking for but all this year he didn't have that look at all the losses there were no signs of a run game because our stupid head coach couldn't figure out that Rico was the starter and that we should run more he didn't figure out if he shuffled around the offensive line to get the true best 5 on there we'd have been better and our defense finally getting players back and playing better but now that's gone too because now overshown is out.....​

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The point being this is how it goes with a backup I don't see how we could have asked for much more I mean if you have that dynamic of a backup you'd be really lucky in today's day and age that would be a coincidence typically when your starter goes out the team goes way down a level...​

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

nothing like facts to debunk made up fallacies of some fantasy football type fans

Most of the debate around Lamar Jackson is about is playoff performances and those who think he is more of an RB than a QB. But anyone with credible football knowledge would know that Lamar would have been signed as a starter for another team if he was a true unattached free agent, who was allowed to start all over with a contract negotiations to whichever team wanted him.

The Rush defender is really reaching to act like that's the same as Rush not getting any offers from other teams despite being available for pick up when he was on the Cowboys practice squad and was a free agent.

 

[leeblair]

Yes they did, they put the non exclusive franchise tag on Lamar so he was franchised but could still negotiate with other teams. Another team would have had to give up multiple 1st round picks to sign Lamar, and Baltimore would have had the ability to match any offer from another team.

It was a sham of a free agency experience for Lamar Jackson.

You're right; I was mistaken.
Still, no other team showed interest.
It doesn't mean Rush is less of a player simply because he stayed in Dallas.
He's proven he can win in the NFL against top teams.
However, none of this matters anymore.
Jerry has destroyed the franchise we once loved, replacing it with a circus.
If you still want to cheer the circus, that's your call.
I don't.