Inside Staffer telling the truth on ol Dez

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Dez has never been known for having an array of skills or being a polished receiver. He made his name on sheer athleticism and the ability to make big dazzling plays with physical ability. His routes have always been sloppy for a player of his reputation.



This is what I have wondered about all season. Dezzies have claimed all those passes Dez didn't catch were "uncatchable". Ball slightly behind, ball a little low, Dez having to turn around and getting popped in the face with the ball, ball not thrown 3 inchs above the defenders head like Romo claimed...all uncatchable and Dak's fault for not having a perfectly thrown ball.

He stopped making the physical plays at the rate he used to. So, what makes him special now?

Can two things not be true simultaneously?

Dez isn’t the best route runner and he was thrown a ton of poor balls. Not complicated
 

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“Based on last year,” one staffer says, “he does very few things really well.”

I don't usually credit unnamed sources at all (it could literally be anybody), but then, I don't think this statement here is all that tough to buy. Other than high-pointing the ball and running in the open field, Dez was pretty much solid at everything most of his career anyway. But he was phenomenal making those catches above his head. He's still good with the ball in space, though, that's silly.

More interesting to me is Breer saying Dez has lost inches off his vertical as if that's been measured and is a fact. I'd buy it, but it's not something I'd noticed and not something I'd heard elsewhere. It's easy to check, too. It'd be interesting to know if it's true or not.
I don't claim to be any specialist in the area of verticals but it does seem to me as though he's not high pointing the ball as high as he used to. Many of those battles are now (seem to me) 50/50 whereas 3 years ago they seemed 80/20 Dez.
 

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I don't claim to be any specialist in the area of verticals but it does seem to me as though he's not high pointing the ball as high as he used to. Many of those battles are now (seem to me) 50/50 whereas 3 years ago they seemed 80/20 Dez.

Next year when you have 3rd and goal from the 17 with 7 seconds left on the clock - and you're down by 5 points - can you name 4 Cowboys receivers you'd rather have on the field than Dez? (and I'll grant you an unnamed draft pick as one of them)
 

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From the article:
Dez has never been known for having an array of skills or being a polished receiver. He made his name on sheer athleticism and the ability to make big dazzling plays with physical ability. His routes have always been sloppy for a player of his reputation.



This is what I have wondered about all season. Dezzies have claimed all those passes Dez didn't catch were "uncatchable". Ball slightly behind, ball a little low, Dez having to turn around and getting popped in the face with the ball, ball not thrown 3 inchs above the defenders head like Romo claimed...all uncatchable and Dak's fault for not having a perfectly thrown ball.

He stopped making the physical plays at the rate he used to. So, what makes him special now?
Counter riddle #1:
So,this alleged franchise " insider" is claiming FULL AWARNESS of this professionals weakness's ( defects) residing within the contracted franchise property being the #88,,,:huh:,,,,just HOW LONG HAS THIS
" INSIDER" BEEN AWARE OF THESE Footballish FLAWS ?
Logic reasonably dictates that astute
" observation" would've been fired off to 'skybox command " in a saturn5 rocket launch fashion most ricky-tick,,,yet,,,:rolleyes:,,,,'command' having been handed the hot poop concercerning this,
IS apparently incapable of addressing it & other such future players issues in a proactive timely manner,,,:huh:,,,I copy,,,er,,maybe,,,ah,,,,I guess:rolleyes:


*I wanna know why Mr. Bean spiller Insider guy, is still held in a favorable franchise fashion first& foremosto_O
 

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Can two things not be true simultaneously?

Dez isn’t the best route runner and he was thrown a ton of poor balls. Not complicated
Yes other things can occur, too. He didn’t win as many of the physical battles he used to win in the past and he dropped more balls than he normal did in the past. They can all contribute.
 

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Next year when you have 3rd and goal from the 17 with 7 seconds left on the clock - and you're down by 5 points - can you name 4 Cowboys receivers you'd rather have on the field than Dez? (and I'll grant you an unnamed draft pick as one of them)
Courtland Sutton
Calvin Ridley
Sorry. Needed two..

Rico Gathers
Allen Hurns
Zeke behind a screen
 

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Courtland Sutton
Calvin Ridley
Sorry. Needed two..

Rico Gathers
Allen Hurns
Zeke behind a screen

If you need to draft Calvin Ridley and Courtland Sutton just to offset losing Dez, then cutting Dez is going to be extremely costly to the Cowboys.
 

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I don't claim to be any specialist in the area of verticals but it does seem to me as though he's not high pointing the ball as high as he used to. Many of those battles are now (seem to me) 50/50 whereas 3 years ago they seemed 80/20 Dez.

I saw him dropping more balls than he had previously, but it seemed like he was able to high point them still just fine, to me.

I see a guy who's lost the slight edge he had in terms of deep speed and who's always been more sudden than quick. And I see a guy who doesn't have things down with his QB like he used to with Romo. That's about it with Dez in my book. Not quite worth what we're paying him, especially given the cap hit, but still a pretty good player.
 

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If you need to draft Calvin Ridley and Courtland Sutton just to offset losing Dez, then cutting Dez is going to be extremely costly to the Cowboys.
Regardless, the list stands on its own merits. A declined Dez is not as important to the success of the Dallas Cowboys as he once was. One could even argue that his volatile approach to everyday on field situations is detrimental to that very success... More detrimental than how it may have been back in the day when his talent level kept everything else at a lower level. You're willing to forgive the bull crap when he's throwing up the X regularly after scoring yet another amazing TD. Those days are long gone.
 

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Counter riddle #1:
So,this alleged franchise " insider" is claiming FULL AWARNESS of this professionals weakness's ( defects) residing within the contracted franchise property being the #88,,,:huh:,,,,just HOW LONG HAS THIS
" INSIDER" BEEN AWARE OF THESE Footballish FLAWS ?
Logic reasonably dictates that astute
" observation" would've been fired off to 'skybox command " in a saturn5 rocket launch fashion most ricky-tick,,,yet,,,:rolleyes:,,,,'command' having been handed the hot poop concercerning this,
IS apparently incapable of addressing it & other such future players issues in a proactive timely manner,,,:huh:,,,I copy,,,er,,maybe,,,ah,,,,I guess:rolleyes:


*I wanna know why Mr. Bean spiller Insider guy, is still held in a favorable franchise fashion first& foremosto_O
Because
 

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I saw him dropping more balls than he had previously, but it seemed like he was able to high point them still just fine, to me.

I see a guy who's lost the slight edge he had in terms of deep speed and who's always been more sudden than quick. And I see a guy who doesn't have things down with his QB like he used to with Romo. That's about it with Dez in my book. Not quite worth what we're paying him, especially given the cap hit, but still a pretty good player.
Fair assessment. Much appreciated.
 

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No, someone claimed his decline started when Romo wasn’t the QB. And I showed it did.

Now, if you want to take a different look at it. Romo and Dez played about 2.75 games that year together. They had around 11 receptions, about 100 yards, 1 TD during that time. What does that average over a year? Ball park figures since I am tied up is about 55-60 receptions, about 700-800 yards, and 5-7 touchdowns? How does that compare to 2012-2014?

Lol...you can't go by that, there's no way to factor in a game that might be exceptionally good or duds. Now going on past history the previous 3 seasons, there's no reason not to think over 1000 yards,80-90 catches, and double digit tds.
 

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Counter riddle #1:
So,this alleged franchise " insider" is claiming FULL AWARNESS of this professionals weakness's ( defects) residing within the contracted franchise property being the #88,,,:huh:,,,,just HOW LONG HAS THIS
" INSIDER" BEEN AWARE OF THESE Footballish FLAWS ?
Logic reasonably dictates that astute
" observation" would've been fired off to 'skybox command " in a saturn5 rocket launch fashion most ricky-tick,,,yet,,,:rolleyes:,,,,'command' having been handed the hot poop concercerning this,
IS apparently incapable of addressing it & other such future players issues in a proactive timely manner,,,:huh:,,,I copy,,,er,,maybe,,,ah,,,,I guess:rolleyes:


*I wanna know why Mr. Bean spiller Insider guy, is still held in a favorable franchise fashion first& foremosto_O
To be fair that portion of the article appears to be from the author and not the unnamed source. :thumbup:
 

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I can't say for sure about the drain he has on the team, but WR is absolutely a priority.

If anyone needs convincing, go watch The last Chargers game. The skill gap was stunning.
Ya,that whole skill gap of allowing weasle Rivers to methodically take aim& fire away at will in a mocking manner without the sweat BROUGHT ON from any DEFENSIVE HEAT :thumbup:

:rolleyes:
 

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Lol...you can't go by that, there's no way to factor in a game that might be exceptionally good or duds. Now going on past history the previous 3 seasons, there's no reason not to think over 1000 yards,80-90 catches, and double digit tds.

Yeah, no reason to go by what actually occurred on the field. It’s not favorable to the protected players.

We don’t want to come up with any excuses for the non protected players like Cassel who got thrust into a new system mid-year and the had to try to develop chemistry with Dez. Then Romo comes back for a couple games and Cassel is thrown back in yet again after Romo gets injured for the 2nd time. And he has to play with an injured Dez.

Nope, he is the reason Dez sucks.
 

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This article says nothing that people here haven't been saying lol. Its hardly news worthy. Dez wasn't good last year and he didn't do many things good last year...ok? lol.

Booger & Son have a bigger problem than Dez, they've got a mouth that should be shut inside their camp. Shades of the "reliable source" that helped wreck a season not too long ago.


Every team has that "source". No one even knows if any of this stuff is even true.
 
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