Interesting QB cap fact I heard this morning

[unionjack8]

This is the Tickets way or saying Dak isn't the guy without ruining their relationship with the Cowboys.

Bingo, the suckup from Dallas media this week has been utterly embarrassing

 

[Denim Chicken]

Courtesy of the Ticket...

The highest QB cap percentage to ever win a Super Bowl was Tom Brady at 12%.

The highest percentage to ever make it to the Super Bowl was Peyton Manning at 18%.

Dak makes 22% of our cap.

Mahomes just set the record winning the Super Bowl at 17% of the cap.

He goes to 21% in 2023.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I mean it's logical right? You hear the Dak fans scream about how he needs weapons and he needs things around him to be successful. Okay, if that is true then we need to also acknowledge a few things
1. The NFL has a set salary cap on what teams can spend
2. The talent that you require Dak be surrounded by also wants to be paid

So either Dak should have been offered a much lower salary so as to surround him with talent that can make the entire franchise successful or we can do what we are doing today which is trying to patch with draft picks and bottom of the barrel FA talent - while overpaying at the QB position for a guy who simply does not have the ability to level up his game when it's time to do so. I mean if there is only so many way to slice the pie then this is what you have.

 

[CATCH17]

Mahomes just set the record winning the Super Bowl at 17% of the cap.

He goes to 21% in 2023.

And if he’s your QB you should pay him. He is not only most likely the most talented QB of all time he showed you on his rookie deal that he could win Superbowls.

Pay those guys. Don’t pay Dak’s who do nothing and aren’t elite.

 

[Ken]

Mahomes just set the record winning the Super Bowl at 17% of the cap.

He goes to 21% in 2023.

Clearly he can't win it next year at 21% lol

These dumb stats people cling to....

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Pay those guys. Don’t pay Dak’s who do nothing and aren’t elite.

Right? How exactly do you look at Mahomes contract and say because Mahomes got paid we need to pay Dak. The two aren't the same, not even the same caliber and Mahomes won a SB while Dak can't even get to the Championship game.

 

[Ken]

I mean it's logical right? You hear the Dak fans scream about how he needs weapons and he needs things around him to be successful. Okay, if that is true then we need to also acknowledge a few things
1. The NFL has a set salary cap on what teams can spend
2. The talent that you require Dak be surrounded by also wants to be paid

So either Dak should have been offered a much lower salary so as to surround him with talent that can make the entire franchise successful or we can do what we are doing today which is trying to patch with draft picks and bottom of the barrel FA talent - while overpaying at the QB position for a guy who simply does not have the ability to level up his game when it's time to do so. I mean if there is only so many way to slice the pie then this is what you have.

The talent around Dak WAS paid...they were just the wrong talent to pay.

This isn't hard to see if you are not biased as hell.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

The talent around Dak WAS paid...they were just the wrong talent to pay.

This isn't hard to see if you are not biased as hell.

Again, the talent that you needed to pay was out of your reach because you are busy paying a spare QB and a spare RB the lion share of the cap.

 

[CATCH17]

Clearly he can't win it next year at 21% lol

These dumb stats people cling to....

It’s simple..

Pay elite QB’s… Mahomes would fit into that category.

Don’t pay non-elite QB’s… This is Dak’s category.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Brady made 5x more off the field. He used to give the Pats hometown discounts and never really demanded to make what he was worth. That allowed NE to build teams around him.....though most of the savings were spent on defense.

 

[Ken]

Again, the talent that you needed to pay was out of your reach because you are busy paying a spare QB and a spare RB the lion share of the cap.

Dak hasn't been paid yet. FYI.

He won't be "paid" again this year either.

Exactly...highest paid rb in the league....that was not even average. That and a WR on 1 leg and a franchised TE who also played on one leg most of the year.

Sick of hearing that "we can't put talent around Dak because of his contract"

 

[atlantacowboy]

Again, the talent that you needed to pay was out of your reach because you are busy paying a spare QB and a spare RB the lion share of the cap.

I mean even Forrest Gump knew that stupid is what stupid does. Jerry and his boy don't recognize their mistakes as mistakes. Its just 27 years of bad luck.

 

[Ken]

It’s simple..

Pay elite QB’s… Mahomes would fit into that category.

Don’t pay non-elite QB’s… This is Dak’s category.

Looking at Mahomes' contract...wow. There is 0 wiggle room in it...very low Base money to convert...his contract is truly limiting.

Dak's...not so much. Can keep pushing the money down the line as long as you want.

There is the difference you are looking for.

 

[Flamma]

Clearly he can't win it next year at 21% lol

These dumb stats people cling to....

They cling to them because it just doesn't happen. A team with a QB on a rookie contract has an advantage over a QB with a 30-40M cap hit. It takes a really good QB to overcome that. For Dallas, they have to keep restructuring Dak so we can compete. Dallas can't compete with a QB taking up 17% of the cap.

 

[zenmastersauce]

So we're about to set a record?

This thinking is what it should be from every person. But.....

 

[Ken]

They cling to them because it just doesn't happen. A team with a QB on a rookie contract has an advantage over a QB with a 30-40M cap hit. It takes a really good QB to overcome that. For Dallas, they have to keep restructuring Dak so we can compete. Dallas can't compete with a QB taking up 17% of the cap.

Very small sample size relative to how long QBs have made this type of money in the cap era.

Restructuring is the strategy, always has been.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I mean even Forrest Gump knew that stupid is what stupid does. Jerry and his boy don't recognize their mistakes as mistakes. Its just 27 years of bad luck.

We're almost there says the carnival barker. I mean nearly 3 decades of this bs and the guy can't seem to grasp the problem.

 

[atlantacowboy]

We're almost there says the carnival barker. I mean nearly 3 decades of this bs and the guy can't seem to grasp the problem.

He will look everywhere but in the mirror.

 

[Flamma]

Very small sample size relative to how long QBs have made this type of money in the cap era.

Restructuring is the strategy, always has been.

Agreed 100%. But in roughly a decade, we've seen a lot of QBs on rookie deals in the SB. Or QBs that have manageable cap hits. The one's that do get there with big cap hits, are usually elite QBs.

Chiefs are going to have a problem with the Bengals for the next two years. They overcame it this year, but the Bengals have an advantage. And a pretty good QB.

 

[erod]

Jerry is a better GM than Dak is a quarterback.

And Dak makes Mahomes money despite having Tannehill talent.

Therein lies the problem.