Is Bledsoe a Hall Of Famer?

[ABQCOWBOY]

80'S ON ITS COMPARABLE.

16 games schedules and teams airing it out. Even look at Fouts and Air Coryell. Marino was slinging it in 83/84.

50,000 yards in any era is damn impressive.

No, I think late 80s perhaps, but not the majority of the 80s. I'd say it's fair to say 90s on. At far as 50K, Bledsoe hasn't done that. Lets wait and see where he finishes first.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Making stuff up.

May 1000 Fisher cats descend on your abode!

LOL!

 

[Nors]

If you take the time to do the research at the NFL's website, you will see that Bledsoe is already all over the record books, and he's only 33 years old.


By the time we play Philly, Bledsoe will have passed Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana in passing yards. That will put him in eighth place all time, again, as a 33 year old.

Bledsoe is already 7th all time in completions, ahead of : Montana, Fouts, Kelly, Unitas, Young. By the end of the season he will be in 5th place all time. Behind only: Marino, Favre, Elway, and Moon.

More Bledsoe records: just for fun: Most pass attempts in a game-70. Most completions in a game 45...same game...no interceptions!

If Bledsoe plays 3 more years and puts up "average" numbers by his own standards. He will be in the HOF...not a first ballot guy, but he will deserve to get in. His records speak for themselves.

If he wins a SuperBowl, he is in for sure.

The Super Bowl and a few good seasons seals it. After Namath and Fouts, Bledsoe would deserve in. Also throw in his 2 AFC championship wins.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I think there are two points being made in this thread.

1. One is, can Bledsoe get into the Hall of Fame?

The other...

2. Is Bledsoe a Hall of Fame Quarterback now?

The answer to number 1 is yes. If he wins a Super Bowl or too and is able to stick around a few more years, then he could get in, anything is possible.

The answer to number 2 is no. If his career ended today (hope it doesnt) then no, he doesnt go into the hall of fame. When I evaluate a players worthiness into Canton, I dont look at his peers of yesteryear, I look at the players that played around the same time he did.

Warren Moon
Brett Farve
Peyton Manning
Randall Cunningham
Jim Kelly
Troy Aikman
Tom Brady
John Elway
Steve Young
Joe Montana
Dan Marino


Like Juke said, Bledsoe is just not on none of the above guys level. I think when it is all said and done, you could probably pencil in Michael Vick in this list.

Bledsoe is just not there yet. Oh and as far as the excuses for him losing his job. If you are a Hall of Fame Quarterback, the organization finds a way to keep you unless it's like the ticket likes to say, "You've had it".

Bledsoe is an exceptional quarterback in his prime, but that is where it ends...


- Mike G.

 

[Juke99]

Fouts has like 250 TD's to 240 Inters
Namath threw like 40 more picks than TD's. Wasn't for 1 win, the guy really is not a Haller.

Bledsoe is around 50 positive.

Didn't you just post, "80's on..."???

Nors, there is something more than just stats when considering a guy's career. Yep, if Namath didn't have that one win...but Namath DID have that one win...which is one more than Bledsoe.

The point is, Namath was the savior of the AFL...that simple.

His career is about more than stats.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Fouts has like 250 TD's to 240 Inters
Namath threw like 40 more picks than TD's. Wasn't for 1 win, the guy really is not a Haller.

Bledsoe is around 50 positive.

Bledsoe has a very unimpressive TO ratio himself. If you stick Bledsoe in the same era as Fouts, this would not be a discussion. Bledsoe would not have put up the same kind of numbers he has thus far. That's only the truth of it Nors.

In the end, I stick by what I said earlier. I think Bledsoe has to win championships to get it.

 

[NorTex]

Listen, I lived in San Diego when Fouts was doing his thing. I can tell you with first hand knowledge that guy wasn't HOF caliber. He had no arm whatsoever. The Chargers defense stunk so bad those years that they had to score at least 30 points a game just to make it competitive.

But he has passing records and that's what counts.

Bledsoe has more and better records and he is still playing. And, he could set new single season records in the next few years, who knows.

There is no denying a QB into the HOF if he passes for 50,000 yards. It would be like keeping out a homerun hitter who has 700 or more homeruns.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe has a very unimpressive TO ratio himself. If you stick Bledsoe in the same era as Fouts, this would not be a discussion. Bledsoe would not have put up the same kind of numbers he has thus far. That's only the truth of it Nors.

In the end, I stick by what I said earlier. I think Bledsoe has to win championships to get it.

Who are you arguing with? - I generally agree Bledsoe has to win a Super Bowl. If he has 3-4 more very good years he might sniff at the entrance.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe has a very unimpressive TO ratio himself. If you stick Bledsoe in the same era as Fouts, this would not be a discussion. Bledsoe would not have put up the same kind of numbers he has thus far. That's only the truth of it Nors.

In the end, I stick by what I said earlier. I think Bledsoe has to win championships to get it.

Bledsoe's TD/Inter ratio is like 40-50 positive - for the record.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Listen, I lived in San Diego when Fouts was doing his thing. I can tell you with first hand knowledge that guy wasn't HOF caliber. He had no arm whatsoever. The Chargers defense stunk so bad those years that they had to score at least 30 points a game just to make it competitive.

But he has passing records and that's what counts.

Bledsoe has more and better records and he is still playing. And, he could set new single season records in the next few years, who knows.

There is no denying a QB into the HOF if he passes for 50,000 yards. It would be like keeping out a homerun hitter who has 700 or more homeruns.

I do not agree with you on Fouts.

The 50,000 yard thing is hypathetical. Bledsoe has not done this. He's only passed for 40,000 now. Bledsoe would have to play for another 3 seasons at a pretty high level to get there.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Who are you arguing with? - I generally agree Bledsoe has to win a Super Bowl. If he has 3-4 more very good years he might sniff at the entrance.

I did not realize I was arguing at all. Is this what it seems we're doing to you?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Bledsoe's TD/Inter ratio is like 40-50 positive - for the record.

Including last week, it's 43 to the good. The key point here is Interceptions as opposed to actual INTs and fumbles. If you take these into consideration, his numbers are unimpressive. This, in an era when WRs enjoy a significant advantage over DBs and the QB is protected to the point of obserdity (sp). This does not favor Bledsoe's bid for the Hall IMO.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Including last week, it's 43 to the good. The key point here is Interceptions as opposed to actual INTs and fumbles. If you take these into consideration, his numbers are unimpressive. This, in an era when WRs enjoy a significant advantage over DBs and the QB is protected to the point of obserdity (sp). This does not favor Bledsoe's bid for the Hall IMO.

Very well said ABQ.

 

[junk]

The ball patting stuff gets over blown I saw Brady doing it as well, ever since it was 1st brought up I started paying closer attention and the fact is other QB's do it as well. I will agree that 1 good outing does not make a season but I do think if the line can protect Bledsoe he has more than enough talent to get the job done

Sure, I agree with that.

 

[Cowchips]

It's not all about "team" accomplishments in order to get into the Hall.

The fact is that Kelly is light years better as a QB than what Drew is. It's not even close.

Is that why Drew in 3 years blew through most of Kelly's passing records in Buffalo?

 

[cowboygolfer]

He has the numbers but I do agree he has to win a ring to get in. I think if he wins a ring here and somewhat reforms teh perception he has he gets in at some point.

If not he probably doesn't.

 

[Nors]

Is that why Drew in 3 years blew through most of Kelly's passing records in Buffalo?

Not to mention the cast Kelley had around him. Those were loaded teams - that never could win the big one.....

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe at his size, motivational status to get the carrot. Will play 3 years EASY. Now if he and team tanks - he may retire early. But my money is on him to show that resolve and win that Lombardi.

Kis a smart one - he knows that his ultimate Career will be judged on if he and Parcells can get this done. He knows he gets the ring he's a Haller. Its almost that simple.

If not he's a fringer with a case.

 

[Hostile]

For those who are fans of more than 1 sport.

Drew Bledsoe = Dave Kingman




His numbers are great. Numbers are not the essence of the Hall of Fame. They WILL get you on the ballot. They will NOT get you in the door.

Some of the comparisons in this thread have been great. Some a little off base. It is a very good thread overall.

Jim Plunkett won 2 Super Bowls after resurrecting his career and is not in the HOF, nor should he be.

The Hall of Fame is not about stats, Super Bowls, or media attention. The Hall of Fame is about impact on the game.

I've read every post in this thread. I feel I was giving too much weight to his numbers. As such I am changing my mind. I do not think he will get in the Hall of Fame. He has not had enough impact on the game.

If he does that's great. I hope it is because he has 2 more Super Bowl rings and he goes in wearing the star. I'm not going to count on that though because it hasn't happened and it is rare.

 

[Juke99]

Is that why Drew in 3 years blew through most of Kelly's passing records in Buffalo?

Could you please tell me which passing records you are referring to?