Is Dak Prescott the next Tebow?

superonyx

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If there were a new head coach coming in, their first job would be to fix Prescott.

Are you serious about this? Have you not watched our defense get carved up like a turkey week after week?

Any coach that we’re hired and actually agreed with you would fail miserably.
 

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Absurd, why? What is different other than the fact that you believe in Prescott more?

Tim Tebow has a career completion % of 47.9%

Prescott has a career completion % of 65.7%

Tebow has a career YPA of 6.7

Prescott has a career YPA of 7.8

Tim Tebow was a fundamentally inaccurate passer who never consistently demonstrated the ability to complete passes more than 5 yards down the field. He had such flawed mechanics that he was written off at the peak of his career and played only 2 more NFL games. He effectively ran the veer for half a season, beat a bunch of bad teams and then had one miraculous throw to win a playoff game.

Dak Prescott is demonstrably superior at the most basic aspects of playing the position and that will never be an untrue statement.
 

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Tim Tebow: 47.9% completions, 17/9 TD/INTs, 75.3 rating

Dak Prescott: 65.7% completions, 39/11 TD/INTs, 98.7 rating

Yep, totally the same. :rolleyes:

I think some of you really need to calm down and/or learn a bit more about the game of football.
 

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90.5, 68.6, 141.7, 93.8, 105.2, 134, 82.2, 106.8, 82.1, 30.4

Those are Dak’s QB ratings this year while struggling with a less effective sophomore year, recently dealing with injuries on the OL and lack of a good run game. He missed some throws in the first two games, then caught fire and looked like last year’s QB for several games. Now, when the entire team has stunk, he has looked very poor.

It’s way premature to call him a bust...silly. Probably the same guys who were laughing at Wentz last year when he had no weapons and no run game. Wentz didn’t become the darling this year with the same cast from last year. Philly totally revamped their receiving corps and lead RBs, along with getting healthy at OL and aggressive on defense.

We have a second round QB trying to learn how to play without a Run game and with an OL that has been inferior during this bad streak. No one know what he will be, but everyone knows what he can be, and with experience, he will learn how to play when his cast is weak.
Cowboys fans are conveniently forgetting Wentz was the 28th rated QB in the league last year while throwing key interceptions to lose games for the 6-9 eagles..this was with a better defense that we have.
 

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Are you serious about this? Have you not watched our defense get carved up like a turkey week after week?

Any coach that we’re hired and actually agreed with you would fail miserably.
Yes, I am very serious about this.

If I cannot score without a RB, then I have a QB problem.

The defense is another issue that has existed for years. And yes, it is another key point to fix.

But you have to have the QB first.
 

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As a fan of Dak, I share some of your concern and am starting to worry about him, but as of right now this offseason we have many more pressing needs than QB such as:

1. entire coaching staff needing replaced: these schemes are too simple, lack of adjustments, players are never ready for situations in games, we are never fully ready for injuries which do happen, lack of respect for detail

2. Wide Receiver:
Dez is not the same guy and the guys behind him are having the same problem and that is being they are not able to break coverage and get open. Need a #1 WR

3. Linebacker:
Lee is the guy, but without him we are like dumbfounded. Need a guy or two that can outright play and not just fill in. Jaylon Smith may be still raw and getting better, but I still think we could use one more.

4. Tight End:
Witten is starting to show his age in his speed. We need to find a guy that can replace him.

5. Defense: young guys in secondary, and on dline could possibly use more help.

This team will not be able to fix this team entirely through the draft so it will have to work free agency and not just for 3rd string depth but actually spend a little money.

I think as long as we have a cheerleader for a coach, we will be stuck on this rollercoaster of mediocrity.
I know people don't like Garrett and I won't cry if they get fired but it can't be when they win it's the players and when they lose it's the coaches. That is that weak stuff. We ran the same stuff last year we running this year and the same stuff we ran in 2014 also.

The other stuff I can agree about.
 

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Tim Tebow: 47.9% completions, 17/9 TD/INTs, 75.3 rating

Dak Prescott: 65.7% completions, 39/11 TD/INTs, 98.7 rating

Yep, totally the same. :rolleyes:

I think some of you really need to calm down and/or learn a bit more about the game of football.

I am sorry I did not break it down to you simply enough so you could understand.

It was not about any statistical comparison.

I don't care if Prescott was 3 for 30 as long as those three completions mattered.

The point about Tebow is that he was scripted to be a winning QB.

It got Denver to a point that was as far as we ever got with a QB like Romo.

Griffin and others have demonstrated how things can pop and then fizzle in a heartbeat.

I think some of you really need to learn a bit more about the game of football as well.
 

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Yes, I am very serious about this.

If I cannot score without a RB, then I have a QB problem.

The defense is another issue that has existed for years. And yes, it is another key point to fix.

But you have to have the QB first.

No if your offense can’t score without a RB you have a coaching problem.
Case Keenum has been scorning at a high rate and they don’t have a RB. Is he suddenly a stud QB? No..he has coaching that puts players in position to succeed.
 

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I am sorry I did not break it down to you simply enough so you could understand.

It was not about any statistical comparison.

I don't care if Prescott was 3 for 30 as long as those three completions mattered.

The point about Tebow is that he was scripted to be a winning QB.

It got Denver to a point that was as far as we ever got with a QB like Romo.

Griffin and others have demonstrated how things can pop and then fizzle in a heartbeat.

I think some of you really need to learn a bit more about the game of football as well.
Your not even talking to me but wow dude just because you don’t agree with him doesn’t mean you should be a pissy dick to him.
You just come off as insecure in your position and not looking to be challenged. Maybe next time just let everyone know you aren’t interested in hearing what others think so we know your preaching.
 

Alexander

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No if your offense can’t score without a RB you have a coaching problem.
Case Keenum has been scorning at a high rate and they don’t have a RB. Is he suddenly a stud QB? No..he has coaching that puts players in position to succeed.

A coaching or a scheme problem?

I get that.

But most people won't admit that.

I am talking the issues with Prescott alone.

I know it is tough to overlook his glowing success last year and in a few other games this year.

But, once again, the sample size.

If God Himself dropped down from the sky and vaporized this coaching staff (which is about what it would take), what are you working with in Prescott?

I just don't know anymore.
 

Alexander

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Your not even talking to me but wow dude just because you don’t agree with him doesn’t mean you should be a pissy dick to him.
You just come off as insecure in your position and not looking to be challenged. Maybe next time just let everyone know you aren’t interested in hearing what others think so we know your preaching.
I am sorry I did not put it in ways that did not make you feel uncomfortable, snowflake.

I will try harder next time.
 

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Yes, I am very serious about this.

If I cannot score without a RB, then I have a QB problem.

The defense is another issue that has existed for years. And yes, it is another key point to fix.

But you have to have the QB first.

Absolutely 100% spot on. Your QB should be the one player you can't afford to lose. When that player is your RB, OT, and/or MLB, your team is built wrong and you don't have a franchise QB.
 

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I am sorry I did not put it in ways that did not make you feel uncomfortable, snowflake.

I will try harder next time.
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Dak needs to seriously develop his accuracy from the pocket, and his decision making when it comes to throwing downfield. These past 3 weeks he has looked completely inept when throwing anything over 7 yards. Now, some of that is on the receivers and offensive coaching staff, which are sub-par and doing absolutely nothing to help him. At the same time, we rarely see him trying downfield throws, and we've seen many awful passes at receivers' feet or over their heads (not to mention the atrocious pick six to Beasley). It's too early to give up, but he needs to take a step forward next season, particularity with his accuracy. His arm strength isn't incredible, but it's good enough, but the accuracy in the pocket is what's really lacking.
 

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Kellen Moore can give you more than 30 yards a half throwing right handed. How's that? Our passing stats were putrid.

I can't even believe we have Kellen Moore stans on this board.

We are 5-6 with Dak. With Kellen Moore we are 2-9.
 

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Absolutely 100% spot on. Your QB should be the one player you can't afford to lose. When that player is your RB, OT, and/or MLB, your team is built wrong and you don't have a franchise QB.
You don’t think the results would be the same if Zeke was still playing and Dak was suspended?
Do you think having Zeke and Rush or Moore would really be different?

Hey Case Keenum will be a free agent next year.
 

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You don’t think the results would be the same if Zeke was still playing and Dak was suspended?
Do you think having Zeke and Rush or Moore would really be different?

Hey Case Keenum will be a free agent next year.


Case Keenum is the Dak Prescott of 2017.
 
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