Is Dak Prescott the next Tebow?

[Dodger12]

I can't even believe we have Kellen Moore stans on this board.

We are 5-6 with Dak. With Kellen Moore we are 2-9.

Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm not pimping Kellen Moore. He sucks. But 30 yards near the end of the 1st half is horrible. Putrid. You can 30 yards from Babe right now if he came out of the booth. We've had a coaching problem for years if anyone was objective about what the Red Dolt brought to the table. Now we have a QB problem which is bigger than a coaching problem.

 

[DIAF]

I disagree. I think the coaching problem is much bigger than the QB one.

 

[Dodger12]

You don’t think the results would be the same if Zeke was still playing and Dak was suspended?
Do you think having Zeke and Rush or Moore would really be different?

Hey Case Keenum will be a free agent next year.

Your building a strawman and I don't like using that term but I don't know how else to put it. We don't know if the results would be the same. I considered the thought today and I honestly believed we could have gotten more productivity with Cooper Rush. That certainly doesn't mean we'd win. I just think Dak has issues with things a "franchise" QB shouldn't have issues with: accuracy and anticipation. He's just dumping the ball off to his safety valve trying to avoid a mistake. He's playing scared. I can't fathom the pressure the kid is under. But that's the reality of the position he plays for a premier franchise.

 

[Dodger12]

I disagree. I think the coaching problem is much bigger than the QB one.

We can look far and wide for a coach. We can't do the same with a QB. We're slaves to our record and draft position to find one. It's a long, painful process. 5 and 11 or 6 and 10 won't do it.

 

[Darkhound]

I was duped. I bought in to the stock, only to find out it's fools gold.

I don't care about age or experience or anything else. If you've seen enough football, you can get a feel for a guy's ability just by looking at him.

Without zeke, Dak doesn't have "it". He is scared and timid and utterly embarrassing. And now he isnt even using the one thing that could help him - his legs.

I fear that Dak is what the scouting reports said he was. What's that saying about makeup on a pig? Zeke is Dak's mascara

As much as i hate to admit it.. you MIGHT be right...

 

[DOUBLE WING]

We had one of our all time best QBs ready to play again and we froze him out for this flameout.

I'm sure Romo would have given us a solid two quarters of football before getting stretchered off with a back injury.

 

[Darkhound]

At this point... we need to give DAK a season or two more.... hopefully wiht a better staff and coaching around him

 

[School]

Just as the pendulum swung too far in the positive direction after his rookie season, now the pendulum will swing too far into the negative direction.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I'm sure Romo would have given us a solid two quarters of football before getting stretchered off with a back injury.

Ironically, "thanks" to both Jerry and Garrett wasting his career.

 

[SSoup]

Tim Tebow was a career 47 percent completion passer. He was, to put it as kindly as possible, useless trash as a passer.

Dak, on a bad day today when his o-line was banged up and the defense was expecting almost every pass, still completed 70-something percent today.

The difference between Tebow and Dak purely as passers is the difference between Roger Clemens and Derek Jeter purely as batters, basically.

 

[Carson]

Tim Tebow was a career 47 percent completion passer. He was, to put it as kindly as possible, useless trash as a passer.

Dak, on a bad day today when his o-line was banged up and the defense was expecting almost every pass, still completed 70-something percent today.

The difference between Tebow and Dak purely as passers is the difference between Roger Clemens and Derek Jeter purely as batters, basically.

His % was so high today, because every pass he threw was under ten yards ... minus the two to Dez I believe

 

[sb220]

I'm sure Romo would have given us a solid two quarters of football before getting stretchered off with a back injury.

but that one token drive they let him back in for and he worked the offense across the field in 2-3 plays. That was cool.
Wish we could've at least seen Tony running this offense at the line with zeke and this oline...woulda, shoulda, coulda been lethal

 

[bodi]

His % was so high today, because every pass he threw was under ten yards ... minus the two to Dez I believe

have to argee


IMO he worse right now

 

[Tabascocat]

Until our offensive braintrust caters a scheme to Dak's game, he may not ever get above where he is at now. You know, play with some X's and O's and put him into position to succeed for his strengths. He is not a pure pocket passer, he needs to be on the move and such.

This current system does not fit his style.......square pegs in round holes again. Dak does have some concerns but coaching is failing him mostly.

 

[rdskn4eva]

Tim Tebow was NEVER a passer. He never came close to a season like Dak's last year.

Robert Griffin tore his knee to shreds and then tore up his shoulder in a matter of 9 months and was never the same. He also never had a year like Dak's last year, either.

Rg3’s was very comparable. They had similar td totals. Rg3 had about 500 more rushing yards.. dams was better but they were close

 

[DFWJC]

We haven't had a 3 game streak of this poor of QB play...and overall offensive failure..in nearly 30 years.

I'm not in the camp that's giving up on Dak. He's shown me enough at other times to see his potential.

But lets not deny how bad hes been these three games.
Its almost unprecedented.
Look it up if you doubt me.

Really looking forward to this turning back around.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Rg3’s was very comparable. They had similar td totals. Rg3 had about 500 more rushing yards.. dams was better but they were close

Actually a very strong case can be made that RGIII was better. He had very similar passing totals and over 800 yards rushing, which is a huge value. Pro Football Reference’s average value statistic says RGIII’s season was better.

 

[DFWJC]

90.5, 68.6, 141.7, 93.8, 105.2, 134, 82.2, 106.8, 82.1, 30.4

Those are Dak’s QB ratings this year while struggling with a less effective sophomore year, recently dealing with injuries on the OL and lack of a good run game. He missed some throws in the first two games, then caught fire and looked like last year’s QB for several games. Now, when the entire team has stunk, he has looked very poor.

It’s way premature to call him a bust...silly. Probably the same guys who were laughing at Wentz last year when he had no weapons and no run game. Wentz didn’t become the darling this year with the same cast from last year. Philly totally revamped their receiving corps and lead RBs, along with getting healthy at OL and aggressive on defense.

We have a second round QB trying to learn how to play without a Run game and with an OL that has been inferior during this bad streak. No one know what he will be, but everyone knows what he can be, and with experience, he will learn how to play when his cast is weak.

And 60.6

The last three have rough. 82, 30, 60
Here's to hoping it turns back around soon.

 

[GORICO]

I know exactly what kind of response this thread will get.

And that is fine.

But weeks ago when the Elliott suspension looked real, I pointed out we really did not have a big enough sample size without Elliott to make a determination about Prescott's future prospects. A lot of people got angry.

Now, after three games, we have a sample size. It is basically a quarter of a season.

To me, he looks like he has had the benefit of scripted starts since he came into the league. You just can't go from dangerous to inept with the loss of one player.

I don't care about the Sean Lee and Chaz Green arguments.

Look at the player and what he is doing.

I am pretty concerned. To the point that I believe he can't play without Elliott behind him.

The thing that bothers me at this stage is if it is the player or this staff's inability to adjust his game.

I realize it is next to impossible to do this after preseason, as it is set, but it still bugs me.

All I can say is that this season is over.

And we will be left with this QB question at the end.

Dear Sir--- I hate to say this but i must agree

 

[BrassCowboy]

I know people don't like Garrett and I won't cry if they get fired but it can't be when they win it's the players and when they lose it's the coaches. That is that weak stuff. We ran the same stuff last year we running this year and the same stuff we ran in 2014 also.

The other stuff I can agree about.

Ok but the fact that they have done both doesn't negate the inadequacy of our coaching staff. And you don't need to see the W's and L's to know what a good and bad coaching staff is. Players and coaches can overcome for a time, but time does have to make way for reason