Is Garrett getting a pass for lack of discipline?

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visionary

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Garrett coaches players he is not a damn Baby Sitter. He nor any adult is responsible for the action of another adult. These are not children these are grown men who many make more than the HC himself. Jimmy Johnson did not do a damn thing to Eric Williams nor did he do anything to Leon Lett but was he responsible for their action? Hell no he wasn't. If people have a stick up their backside over Garett fine but blaming him for the action of adults is stupid

Way to make excuses and not answer a simple question

Is garrett bringing in these players and building this team ?
 

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Way to make excuses and not answer a simple question

Is garrett bringing in these players and building this team ?

What excuse? again he is a coach not a baby sitter, he has no control over their action off the field nor does any HC. Yes he is building a team and when they are on the field and in that locker room he is 100% responsible for their action outside of that he not any HC is responsible for what a player is doing. The NFL has setup rules for player with punishment for when the break them and yet many of you whine about that as well.
 

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What excuse? again he is a coach not a baby sitter, he has no control over their action off the field nor does any HC. Yes he is building a team and when they are on the field and in that locker room he is 100% responsible for their action outside of that he not any HC is responsible for what a player is doing. The NFL has setup rules for player with punishment for when the break them and yet many of you whine about that as well.

At least we have clarified that you accept the Garrett has little input into personnel/roster decisions. The myth that Garrett is "building this team" is just a load of crap

A HC with a back bone would walk in to the owners office and tell him to stop signing these idiots

A real HC would hold them accountable by not playing them

Of course then we are talking about a real HC not Garrett
 

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He didn't want Hardy or Gregory. I don't think he wanted Ro either

And what's he supposed to do when Scandrick is out partying in Caribbean with his crazy woman taking mollies?
Someone with the ability to think beyond troglodyte level? It must be my birthday.

Back to read the rest of the thread and identify the posters with the 3rd copy of chromosome 21.
 

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That's it...the NFL needs to expand the IQ test to include social environments and identification ability to recognize sexual, anger, drinking, and drug abuse environments.
 

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Yes I give Garrett a pass as he doesn't control all the aspects of the team makeup and or the control over human beings themselves.

Does Belichick get a pass for cheating in which he has TOTAL control over?
Belicheck has certainly gotten a pass for Aaron Hernandez. The OP wouldn't touch that subject (which, in reality, is exactly the same argument) because he'd look like an idiot. Wait.........
 

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Garrett gets a pass for a lot of things, discipline being one of the for sure.

He gets a pass because he's got a very positive locker room overall. And because the arrest record for Cowboys is fairly middle-of-the-road (tied for 13th league-wide in terms of counts of incidents since Garrett took over).

It just gets blown up by our fans around here who are looking for things to blow up about.

Go through the arrest data and judge how big an issue it is yourself:

http://nflarrest.com
http://nflarrest.com/team.html#DAL
 

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Garrett gets a pass for a lot of things, discipline being one of the for sure.
There are three players who got shoved down our throat that account for this....gregory, McClain, Greg hardy. And two of them were jerry Jones selection.......

Most of us here expressed concern over these signings when they happened.
 

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He gets a pass because he's got a very positive locker room overall. And because the arrest record for Cowboys is fairly middle-of-the-road (tied for 13th league-wide in terms of counts of incidents since Garrett took over).

It just gets blown up by our fans around here who are looking for things to blow up about.

Go through the arrest data and judge how big an issue it is yourself:

http://nflarrest.com
http://nflarrest.com/team.html#DAL

Good points... JG doesn't impress me overall, just not much of a fan of his. I tried to be positive with him, the end of last season did it for me.
 

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He gets a pass because he's got a very positive locker room overall. And because the arrest record for Cowboys is fairly middle-of-the-road (tied for 13th league-wide in terms of counts of incidents since Garrett took over).

It just gets blown up by our fans around here who are looking for things to blow up about.

Go through the arrest data and judge how big an issue it is yourself:

http://nflarrest.com
http://nflarrest.com/team.html#DAL

oh ****, I agree with Idgit.
 

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oh ****, I agree with Idgit.

A magician had a floor show in a gambling ship. In the back of the room, was a parrot. All during his act, the parrot would ruin his act by giving the trick away...

Sqwack...it's in his hat; Sqwack...it's in his sleeve; Sqwack...it's in his collar.

The magician took all he could handle and pulled out a revolver and fired at the parrot.

Well, the parrot ducked the bullet and it hit a propane cylinder...exploding. The entire ship was destroyed.

After the explosion, the magician and the parrot were together on a rather small 2x4 board. When the parrot looked the magician in the eye and stated,

'All right, I give up, where's the damn ship?'
 

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oh ****, I agree with Idgit.

You agree with me more than you care to admit. You're just mad at me for unrelated (and completely irrational) reasons and can't reconcile those two facts. But secretly, I know we're on the same page, and that gives me courage to keep posting somehow.
 

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You agree with me more than you care to admit. You're just mad at me for unrelated (and completely irrational) reasons and can't reconcile those two facts. But secretly, I know we're on the same page, and that gives me courage to keep posting somehow.

A ham and cheese sandwich walked into a bar and ordered a beer. The barkeep walked up to it and stated, 'Sorry, we don't serve food here.'
 

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Good points... JG doesn't impress me overall, just not much of a fan of his. I tried to be positive with him, the end of last season did it for me.

Fair enough. I know a lot of posters feel that way.

The Cowboys are always a circus. Even when we tamp down on the characters, we're still a circus. Jerry likes it that way, and the coverage comes with the popularity of the team. You employ a guy like Hardy, or one who goes gradually nuts like Randle did, and you're going to get your share of justified negative attention.

But the players know this is a good locker room. Just last week, we saw Zack Martin talking about the team culture on AJ Hawk's 'show.' Pretty good stuff, if you happened to have missed it:



I give stuff like this a lot more credence than I do an arrest report for an offseason DUI. Every team has it's share of DUIs. What we've got going on is a bit harder to emulate. And it's not always a byproduct of coaching, either. Sometimes you just get the right group of guys together and it works out.
 

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A ham and cheese sandwich walked into a bar and ordered a beer. The barkeep walked up to it and stated, 'Sorry, we don't serve food here.'

"Aren't you a ham sandwich?" the barkeep asked?
"No, I'm a frayed knot."

Is that what you're getting at?
 

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@Idgit friend...don't you feel a little embarrassed by your defense of JG and not a week later another player gets in trouble? Can we find some middle ground here? Ultimately the individual is responsible for his/her actions. That being said, when you're in a profession where availability is the best ability, doesn't the HC bare some responsibility for establishing a culture where players are always considerate of the team/franchise when making decisions/actions in their personal lives?
 

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You agree with me more than you care to admit. You're just mad at me for unrelated (and completely irrational) reasons and can't reconcile those two facts. But secretly, I know we're on the same page, and that gives me courage to keep posting somehow.

I sincerely hope you're joking.
 
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