Is Garrett getting a pass for lack of discipline?

[Toruk_Makto]

To be clear, I don't think those were unique cases that shouldn't be counted. I think they were cases of players they took a chance on and carried on the roster when many other teams wouldn't. In a lot of NFL cities, Josh Brent's career is over after the accident, period, and his 10 games never show up on their suspension ledger. In Dallas, he gets another shot.

Same for McClain. Really, in McClain's case I think the team carried him last year for bookkeeping reasons, because it somehow allowed them to get back some of the money they paid him. I don't remember the specifics, but there was a rationale for it.

The point is, these aren't discipline problems. This is a part of how the organization goes about finding or trying to reclaim players. I have no problem with you not liking it. I'm not a huge fan myself because it hasn't proven to be effective. But that's not what you asked. You asked if the HC was getting a pass for lack of discipline based off of a count of players' games suspended. He pretty obviously isn't.

I'd argue that Rolando was an effective cheap pickup who mostly exceeded his play and who we never tied ourselves to.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

It's funny that the Raiders and Bengals, two teams you might assume would be high on that list, even after COMBINING their numbers, still have 66 less suspensions than the Cowboys.

This. Had I not clicked it I would've assumed Cinci would be first

 

[visionary]

I am not making an excuse they are adults period they pretty much do what they want to do. Acting as if a HC has control over any player away from the field is a joke. Teams and the league can hand down punishment for bad behavior but you will not stop a player or any person of legal age for doing as they choose. I don't make excuses for any player you smoke weed and get busted that is on the player no one else. I sure as hell do not cry and say how unfair it is or how it is the leagues fault it rest squarely on the player himself. Using HC or league as some scape goat is pathetic.

I will say because the Cowboys have drafted players and brought in FA with questionable backgrounds that rest on them for giving an opportunity to a troubled player like a Randy Gregory or McClain to name a couple but no HC or team can control the actions of a player when he is away from the team.

No HC can control.....

Other teams and HCs are doing the job just fine under the same exact rules

Maybe Garrett needs to go do an internship at one if the other NFL teams in how to be a HC and learn the meanings of discipline and accountability

 

[Idgit]

Are they counting Gregory for the 16 this coming year? Is that where you're getting your 30 from? And where are you getting your 14 from McClain from?

I imagine they're counting all suspensions that have been handed down for that period, which ought to include Gregory's 16.

I'm getting my counts here:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/fines-suspensions/all-years/suspensions/dallas-cowboys/

 

[CCBoy]

Maybe, this group fights for individual rights that really don't reflect in a social conscience, directly upon the NFL...I'd like to see President Trump or even Jerry Jones pass a lie detector test on if there ever was past use, you know, beyond second hand smoke excuses.

 

[haleyrules]

Believe it or not, "what happens on an NFL football team" is not the same in all NFL cities, and there are places where a young team getting 13 wins and a tough loss to a good playoff team is a sign of an arrow pointing up rather than a sign of an impending apocalypse.

Garrett sucks.

 

[haleyrules]

What makes you think any of those supsensions are Garretts fault?

He sells pot on his spare time.

 

[haleyrules]

David Irving is included and you forgot Joseph Randle.

He is TRYING to forget about Harris..

 

[Idgit]

He sells pot on his spare time.

I think when a robot gives you pot for money, it's typically referred to as 'vending.'

 

[kumizi]

Are you kidding me with this thread?

Is Garrett the one you think acquired knuckleheads like Gregory, McClain, etc?

 

[Little Jr]

I imagine they're counting all suspensions that have been handed down for that period, which ought to include Gregory's 16.

I'm getting my counts here:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/fines-suspensions/all-years/suspensions/dallas-cowboys/

Rolando number should be 16. He was suspended all last year. Yeah, looks like they are already counting Gregory suspension for this coming year.

 

[waving monkey]

If people want to argue that Garrett has built this great culture here, has been instrumental in rebuilding the roster and making player personnel decisions, you then can't run and hide from player problems and claim Garrett has no responsibility. You can't have it both ways. You can't pick and choose when Garrett is responsible for the roster and what happens with players on the roster.

Garrett's getting a pass in lack of discipline on the team and him taking responsibility for off field infractions
are not equivalent. There has been a seas change with this team inside and out.
Not to say that the chance taking has always paid off and I am tired of it to.
So I guess Iam not disagreeing so stringently with your remarks.
I am a Garrett apologist.

 

[dallasdave]

He is TRYING to forget about Harris..

 

[dallasdave]

He sells pot on his spare time.

what !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dallasdave]

Garrett sucks.

THAT"S the COACH your talking about !!!!

 

[casmith07]

This is one of the dumbest posts ever written on this site.

I don't care what you all think - the head coach has absolutely zero control over what the players do in their time. They're adults just like you and me.

 

[haleyrules]

THAT"S the COACH your talking about !!!!

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[dallasdave]

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He's no Jimmy Johnson !!!!

 

[Trouty]

He's no Jimmy Johnson !!!!

 

[haleyrules]

He's no Jimmy Johnson !!!!

Ha! More like Marvin Lewis!