Is it Brock Purdy or the culture?

[America's Cowboy]

Are you saying SF is immensely more talented than the 'Boys? I can't even name the 49er WRs/TE (we know Kittles). I can't even name the RBs (before McCafferty). It's the CULTURE. They are more physical and quicker than our D. And their coaching beats our's by a landslide. And please don't mention injuries, as the excuse. SF just plugs & play.

It's all of the above. Plus, the 49ers get more production because of all of the above.

 

[Cmac]

It's all of the above. Plus, the 49ers get more production because of all of the above.

Yep.....And I didn't even mention Deebo because he's been out, but came in a made a big play. Plug & play.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No doubt Brock Purdy has talent. But you have to love what they have built and cultivated in San Francisco. They SHOULD have won a Super Bowl with Jimmy G against the great Patrick Mahomes and that juggernaut in KC. You saw what the 49ers came into Dallas and did last year during the divisional round. And let's not forget they were without Deebo Samuel for a big chunk of the season. If CeeDee Lamb were to go down...would Dallas have been able to stay afloat? And I am not comparing CeeDee to Deebo....Deebo is a flat out beast.

I mean...I don't need to remind anyone that Jimmy G took them to the Super Bowl..the organization said "that was not good enough". They spent a top 5 pick on a QB...he was ineffective and got hurt...and they plug in Mr Irrelevant and don't skip a beat. I said it last year before our playoff game against the 49ers...the game against the 49ers last year was lost before it started...because the guy on their sidelines (kyle shanahann) gives them a decided advantage on gameday against the guy on our sidelines. Coaching (read culture) matters...especially in the postseason. They have that thing built RIGHT in San Fran.

Our culture is so fragile...I don't think we would even DARE draft a QB with Dak in the building. And this is not a bash Dak thread. It's about a REAL football organization versus an entitled entertainment conglomerate where football is one arm of Jerry's empire. I am smiling in admiration at the 49ers approach...for them to look at a guy that took them to a Super Bowl....decide he held them back....draft a guy top 5...then draft a guy in the 7th round because they thought that is what was best for their FOOTBALL team...with no concerns about how it would make there top 5 pick feel....get said 7th rounder ready to play.....IMPRESSIVE!!!!

its the culture and they may have stumbled into something. Bilicheck took a 7th round pick one time that helped him go 11-5. it happens once in a generation, but Shanahan is an awsoem coach and Lynch an awsome GM. they went to superbowl with Grapolo, they are in playoffs and competitive and nobody is going to mistake him for an elite QB. he is barely above average. Shanahan system is quite effective and they execute fantastically.

with that said, there is elements of newness that's to your advantage. there is not a lot of tape on this kid, so DCs haven't yet deciphered strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Streifenkarl]

I'm not going to argue against what the 9ers have built, but I do think it's ironic the last time they WON a superbowl was 1995.

No one talks about that while heaping praise on their accomplishments.

You are absolutely right, despite their efforts they haven't had more success than the Cowboys ever since the 90s. But this thread is more about the current culture in either team. It seems like the 49ers are closer to winning it all than this team.

But I stand by what I said in countless other threads. Playoffs are a tournament, it's not necessarily the best team on paper winning it all. Daily performance, luck, momentum, "getting into a rhythm" and all that can erase talent differences easily. What I'm saying is, we "just" need four good days.

 

[Whyjerry]

Let’s be clear…

The Dallas Cowboys are unique. “Culture” emanates from the ownership here. 100 pct. Other franchises the coaches are critical but in Dallas the buck starts and stops with Jerry Jones and his spawn. So let’s not pretend culture is the result of coaching here.

 

[duane33]

Very true. Protect the brand , and figure that will suffice if it appears we are getting better. Fan since the 60’s so have seen it all and how Murchinson let Tex S and Gil Brandt cpupled with Landry lead us out of semi contenders to the first SB ‘s and multiple playoff and NFC championships......

JJ struck it rich with Jimmy, the triplets and then thought it was him and we have suffered ever since.

100% agree. And then media hypes the team, JJ does, more $ from merch. Winning for JJ is more cash and most valuable franchise, not Super Bowls. Hate to say it

 

[doomsday9084]

QB's are overrated. The passing game is the culmination of a lot of people's efforts. Playcalling, route running, pass blocking and even running to set up that pass. If everyone is doing their job right, there are a fair number of QB's who are going to look good.

With that said, Purdy looks better than Garoppolo and a TON better than Lance in the same system. QB's do matter and Purdy deserves credit where its due.

Dak fans crapping on Cowboys players is getting really old. Dallas has a good offensive line. Pollard is one of the better RB's in the league. The #2 WR is weak but that's largely because Dak made last year's #1 WR look bad and Jerry dumped him. Beyond that, the defense leads the league in turnovers and regularly sets up the offense in good position. Cooper Rush is a pretty bad QB. He has zero mobility and questionable arm strength. Despite that, this same Cowboys team is 5-1 with him as a starter. Dak isn't carrying the team.

 

[fansince68]

No doubt Brock Purdy has talent. But you have to love what they have built and cultivated in San Francisco. They SHOULD have won a Super Bowl with Jimmy G against the great Patrick Mahomes and that juggernaut in KC. You saw what the 49ers came into Dallas and did last year during the divisional round. And let's not forget they were without Deebo Samuel for a big chunk of the season. If CeeDee Lamb were to go down...would Dallas have been able to stay afloat? And I am not comparing CeeDee to Deebo....Deebo is a flat out beast.

I mean...I don't need to remind anyone that Jimmy G took them to the Super Bowl..the organization said "that was not good enough". They spent a top 5 pick on a QB...he was ineffective and got hurt...and they plug in Mr Irrelevant and don't skip a beat. I said it last year before our playoff game against the 49ers...the game against the 49ers last year was lost before it started...because the guy on their sidelines (kyle shanahann) gives them a decided advantage on gameday against the guy on our sidelines. Coaching (read culture) matters...especially in the postseason. They have that thing built RIGHT in San Fran.

Our culture is so fragile...I don't think we would even DARE draft a QB with Dak in the building. And this is not a bash Dak thread. It's about a REAL football organization versus an entitled entertainment conglomerate where football is one arm of Jerry's empire. I am smiling in admiration at the 49ers approach...for them to look at a guy that took them to a Super Bowl....decide he held them back....draft a guy top 5...then draft a guy in the 7th round because they thought that is what was best for their FOOTBALL team...with no concerns about how it would make there top 5 pick feel....get said 7th rounder ready to play.....IMPRESSIVE!!!!

That is a perfect summation.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I'm not going to argue against what the 9ers have built, but I do think it's ironic the last time they WON a superbowl was 1995.

No one talks about that while heaping praise on their accomplishments.

This may be true....but because winning the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal...the architect of the franchise has not stayed the same since 1995.

They have been to multiple NFC Title games and multiple Super Bowls since 1995....I don't need to remind you that we've been to NEITHER since 1995.

 

[fansince68]

SMH. You forgot to mention the 49ers are loaded with weapons, veteran players proven in recent playoffs, a very good Oline, excellent receiving weapons, top 3 overall TE, excellent RBs and the #1 overall Defense. That's not including having one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Then you add their easy schedule and super weak division. They SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND DOING WELL since they are one of the top 3 overall loaded and experienced teams.

Totally different for the Cowboys. It's an unfair comparison and expectations. 49ers QBs would not be performing as well with what we've got Dak surrounded with. They are by far better loaded, managed and have recent playoffs experience.

Oh, by the way, the culture here in Dallas is pretty bad. It goes to the players' heads thanks to all of the media and hoopla.

Swap Dak and Kellen Moore with Purdy and Shaniahan. We would be much better team offensively. And our defense would be better due to sustained drives.

 

[America's Cowboy]

QB's are overrated. The passing game is the culmination of a lot of people's efforts. Playcalling, route running, pass blocking and even running to set up that pass. If everyone is doing their job right, there are a fair number of QB's who are going to look good.

With that said, Purdy looks better than Garoppolo and a TON better than Lance in the same system. QB's do matter and Purdy deserves credit where its due.

Dak fans crapping on Cowboys players is getting really old. Dallas has a good offensive line. Pollard is one of the better RB's in the league. The #2 WR is weak but that's largely because Dak made last year's #1 WR look bad and Jerry dumped him. Beyond that, the defense leads the league in turnovers and regularly sets up the offense in good position. Cooper Rush is a pretty bad QB. He has zero mobility and questionable arm strength. Despite that, this same Cowboys team is 5-1 with him as a starter. Dak isn't carrying the team.

Dak hating lies.

 

[CWR]

Absolutely, go follow Amari as well. Jerry made the right decision for the reasons previously stated, plus Amari refused to take a pay cut. Has Jerry failed in replacing Amari? Absolutely, and it has hurt the team, but Jerry had his reasons for not keeping Amari any longer.

I never heard he was approached about a pay cut. All said, most of our moves went fairly well for us despite the criticism. I still disagree with the Coop move though. Had we netted more than a 5th I might feel differently. I also thought we should've been able to extract some value out of LC in a trade.

 

[USArmyVet]

In 5 of 7 games played, Purdy competed against playoff teams. In his games played, he went 114 of 170 (67.1% comp %) for 1,374 yards (8.1 ypa) with 13 td's and 4 int's while helping the team go 6-0 (7th game was late game entry vs. KC) with 1 4th quarter comback and 1 game winning drive. In the playoff win yesterday Purdy went 18 of 30 (60% comp %) for 332 yards with 3 rd's and 0 int's.

So while SF no doubt has a quality defense and made a wise move in acquiring McCaffery mid-season the fact is Burdy has played with the poise and determination of a veteran QB and not a rookie 7th round draft pick.

 

[DFWJC]

They drafted Purdy the year after drafting Trey Lance with a top 5 pick! Do you think we would ever have the stones to do that?

They took Purdy with the last pick in the entire draft.
zero stones requird on that one and zero risk

 

[ryanbabs]

No doubt Brock Purdy has talent. But you have to love what they have built and cultivated in San Francisco. They SHOULD have won a Super Bowl with Jimmy G against the great Patrick Mahomes and that juggernaut in KC. You saw what the 49ers came into Dallas and did last year during the divisional round. And let's not forget they were without Deebo Samuel for a big chunk of the season. If CeeDee Lamb were to go down...would Dallas have been able to stay afloat? And I am not comparing CeeDee to Deebo....Deebo is a flat out beast.

I mean...I don't need to remind anyone that Jimmy G took them to the Super Bowl..the organization said "that was not good enough". They spent a top 5 pick on a QB...he was ineffective and got hurt...and they plug in Mr Irrelevant and don't skip a beat. I said it last year before our playoff game against the 49ers...the game against the 49ers last year was lost before it started...because the guy on their sidelines (kyle shanahann) gives them a decided advantage on gameday against the guy on our sidelines. Coaching (read culture) matters...especially in the postseason. They have that thing built RIGHT in San Fran.

Our culture is so fragile...I don't think we would even DARE draft a QB with Dak in the building. And this is not a bash Dak thread. It's about a REAL football organization versus an entitled entertainment conglomerate where football is one arm of Jerry's empire. I am smiling in admiration at the 49ers approach...for them to look at a guy that took them to a Super Bowl....decide he held them back....draft a guy top 5...then draft a guy in the 7th round because they thought that is what was best for their FOOTBALL team...with no concerns about how it would make there top 5 pick feel....get said 7th rounder ready to play.....IMPRESSIVE!!!!

Biggest difference: Their GM knows what he is doing.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Let’s be clear…

The Dallas Cowboys are unique. “Culture” emanates from the ownership here. 100 pct. Other franchises the coaches are critical but in Dallas the buck starts and stops with Jerry Jones and his spawn. So let’s not pretend culture is the result of coaching here.

Jerry would not even hire someone if he felt they could change the culture in Dallas. Jerry is convinced the culture he has created is fine...and anyone that is hired or drafted needs to to adapt to an already established culture.

You hear all the time...."what is the "identity" of a team" all the time. Well the identity of the Cowboys is the 81 year old owner! And he would not have it any other way.

 

[doomsday9084]

Dak hating lies.

Pretty sure the team is, in fact, 5-1 with Rush as a starter. Do you disagree that he lacks arm strength and mobility?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2972515/cooper-rush
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2972515/type/nfl/year/2021

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/rushing_advanced.htm
There are the stats for Pollard and all NFL runners. Among RB's, Pollard is:
#1 in yards after contact / rush
#3 in yards per attempt
#6 in TD's

Where are the lies?

Just in general, tearing down the RB's, the receivers, the line and the defense just to make Dak look good doesn't make a person a strong Cowboys fan.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

They took Purdy with the last pick in the entire draft.
zero stones requird on that one and zero risk

You are missing my point. They had just drafted a QB...Dallas would not see the need to spend draft capital on QB if they had just spent draft capital on a QB the year before.

 

[CWR]

This may be true....but because winning the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal...the architect of the franchise has not stayed the same since 1995.

They have been to multiple NFC Title games and multiple Super Bowls since 1995....I don't need to remind you that we've been to NEITHER since 1995.

Im not arguing we've been more successful. I'm arguing all that culture has still left them with a drought, just as bad as ours. So before we go full Tarzan maybe we should also take that into consideration.

 

[The Fonz]

Dak could be 89 years old with a poor vision and JJ and his son will say : he is our guy ..it is that bad