Is it really all JJ's fault?

[KMY_Amber]

So now being an All Pro means something?

Star, that's what people are trying to convince me of...but like you, I'm a bit skeptical.

Hec, I think this roster is overrated, and for that reason, I kept my expectations low all year, no matter how good this team looked in any single game.

But I was told by a lot of pundits and fans that this is the best roster the Cowboys have fielded since the Triplets.

So, which is it?

Is this team overrated (yet also underachieved)?

Or is this team (and coaching staff) really as good as many think?

 

[CTcowboy203]

Those are all part of the job description of the GM's duties.

The gm can’t make the players play hard or the coaches prepare correctly. The same reason that fans had hope for this team is bc of the roster the gm put together. Jerry deserves blame but what happened yesterday was not bc of the gm.

The players played with zero intensity, the defensive coach got out schemed all day long

 

[Aven8]

Financial success comes with being a Cowboys player, I can't hold that against them. We wouldn't turn down endorsement deals, all of us would gladly accept them too.

But how does having an endorsement deal affect the quality of play? Many, many players outside of Dallas have endorsement deals...hec, look at Mahomes, Kelce and others. No one is suggesting that Mahomes struggled this year because he's on TV too much. Well, I'm sure some KC fans connect the two.

But KC is about winning. We’re not. We say we are but we don’t commit to it at all cost. I said this yesterday, Alex Smith was a really good QB that had just went 11-5 and they made the playoffs. But Reid and the GM knew he wasn’t good enough to win the whole thing. So they made a concerted effort to trade up from the 20’s to go get Pat. The rest is history.

Pat’s on everything because he’s a winner now.

 

[1942willys]

Jerry Jones hired Parcells, and we know Parcells certainly wasn't soft.

Same results.

And Jerry whined and cried and then brought in TO and now its all BPs fault?
Sure

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

You can bet JJ would be the first one to grab the Lombardi if his team ever won another one. Credit and blame go hand in hand.

Well said!

 

[1942willys]

Of course any GM will get credit for hoisting a Lombardi Trophy, as they should. They fielded a really good team.

And if the team is devoid of talent, then the GM and Owner will always get the blame. Happens across the NFL.

And yes, if you look at all the bad teams across the NFL, the owner and GM are fielding A LOT of the criticism because of the product.

But the Cowboys have 9 All-Pro players and seasoned coaches? Is the Cowboys' product "bad"?

and how many championships have we even SNIFFED in 28 years?

 

[KMY_Amber]

Drug addicts? Come on, that is insane.

Come on, man, we all know Irvin was smoking marijuana and dabbling in cocaine while he was a player, and he "partied" with quite a few other young players. Let's not be coy to what was going on back then. Winning just covered up the stench.

 

[kskboys]

The gm can’t make the players play hard or the coaches prepare correctly. The same reason that fans had hope for this team is bc of the roster the gm put together. Jerry deserves blame but what happened yesterday was not bc of the gm.

The players played with zero intensity, the defensive coach got out schemed all day long

One more time:

He is responsible for hiring those coaches and for acquiring those players.

 

[1942willys]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

More excuses for failure

 

[Coogiguy03]

It's JJ fault, he has to supply the coaches with what they need, he wants to be cheap

 

[Coogiguy03]

One more time:

He is responsible for hiring those coaches and for acquiring those players.

agreeeed

 

[Tabascocat]

9 All Pro players, and 4 are linemen and 1 is the kicker, and there's no substance? When you have all-pro players in the trenches, isn't that the epitome of substance?

Substance is the linebackers, running game, interior lineman, quality backups, etc, etc. When injuries occur, you use another tool like FA and the trade deadline to shore up the deficiencies.

 

[kskboys]

Talented at key positions AND in the trenches.

WR
QB
CB
Offensive Line
Defensive Line
Kicker

Not a bad list of positions, most are critical

Now look at the weak positions:

LB's: We have none
RB's: Don't have a starter
DLine: We have a rotational type at 3 tech, and our DE's just aren't getting there
S: lack a FS

Let me put it this way. How good is that yacht if there are huge holes in the bottom?

 

[ICP]

Yes

Bad QB- who signed him?

Dumb HC- who hired him?

Soft culture- who is the one that has made it a country club in Frisco?

There's also a long list of player decisions that have been very bad such as drafting and even resigning LB's with a known bad neck and another with a major knee injury to the extent it was unknown if he'd ever play. These guys were taken with 1st and 2nd round pics. I know every team misses on draft pics but Jerry and company really seem to roll the dice on high draft capitol.

And don't even get me started on the Amari Cooper fiasco.

 

[Ozone22]

He brought in Parcells. Are you saying that Parcells allowed "no discipline and no accountability"?

Same result even with the almighty Parcells. Players know Jones has their backs when it all comes down who is really in charge.

 

[jazzcat22]

Come on, man, we all know Irvin was smoking marijuana and dabbling in cocaine while he was a player, and he "partied" with quite a few other young players. Let's not be coy to what was going on back then. Winning just covered up the stench.

Partying does not make them drug addicts.

 

[KMY_Amber]

and how many championships have we even SNIFFED in 28 years?

Zero

But recently, is it really all JJ's fault, after fielding 9 All Pro players and bringing in seasoned, winning coaches?...and a team that most pundits/experts agree that this team is LOADED with talent, so they significantly underachieved this season (and in recent seasons)?

If the team is underachieving recently, does this mean that the players and coaches aren't getting it done, but the Owner/GM is doing their job fielding a solid team?

I know it's easy to lay all this at Jerry's feet, but what more can he do? Hec, in many regards, he's been a successful GM recently by a lot of measurements.

Maybe he's picking bad coaches, yes, but he brought in Parcells with Romo, he's brought in McCarthy for Dak...both of those coaches won Superbowls.

Hmmmm...

 

[KMY_Amber]

Partying does not make them drug addicts.

OK, fine, he was a drug user, a regular user. And then was arrested.

Hec, imagine if CD was arrested for drugs today? We would blast him.

 

[Cowboys5217]

The gm can’t make the players play hard or the coaches prepare correctly. The same reason that fans had hope for this team is bc of the roster the gm put together. Jerry deserves blame but what happened yesterday was not bc of the gm.

The players played with zero intensity, the defensive coach got out schemed all day long

How many decades does a guy have to fail to put a team together before it is realized he is at fault?

 

[CTcowboy203]

One more time:

He is responsible for hiring those coaches and for acquiring those players.

Those same coaches are the reason the team had a chance at all. The question in this thread is “is it really ALL JJ’s fault” that answer is clearly no.