Is it time to overpay for a WR?

[sonnyboy]

When Sam Hurd can pull of a catch like Tyree did in the Superbowl against a team like the Patriots in a moment where it was do or die (Not even a regular moment during the regular season where our backup WRs did little to nothing), then let's hear about these no names...Obviously, you are lacking from poor knowledge

NOT ONE MORE WORD ABOUT THIS STUPID HURD/TYREE COMPARISON. It's a bigger waste of time than this thread. They both suck!

But Hurd did have the game winner against the Giants in weekone. That was clutch.:

 

[superpunk]

When Sam Hurd can pull off a catch like Tyree did in the Superbowl against a team like the Patriots in a moment where it was do or die

See also: Realistically attainable criteria.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

were probably trading up for a WR anyway, why not get a sure thing w/ the picks instead of an unkown who might take time to develop.

Im afraid of a Galloway as well, but were in win now mode

 

[Doomsday101]

When Sam Hurd can pull of a catch like Tyree did in the Superbowl against a team like the Patriots in a moment where it was do or die (Not even a regular moment during the regular season where our backup WRs did little to nothing), then let's hear about these no names...Obviously, you are lacking from poor knowledge

Because a blind squirrel found a nut he is all of a sudden a great WR? It was 1catch nothing more. You are claiming how good the Giants young WR are yet they were not great this past season . There is no doubt Austin and Hurd need to prove themselves this season if they hope to continue on with Dallas but it is not uncommon for a WR to take some time before they come into their own.

 

[superpunk]

were probably trading up for a WR anyway, why not get a sure thing w/ the picks instead of an unkown who might take time to develop.

Im afraid of a Galloway as well, but were in win now mode

Because we have more than enough pieces to win now.

Our roster, as it stands is arguably the most talented in the NFL, IMO by a decent margin. I don't think any other team can compete with what we have across the board.

Doesn't mean we'll go 16-0, but we have enough to win it all.

You can't stockpile positions and sacrifice the future just because you're afraid TO might sprain his coccyx in week 13.

 

[sonnyboy]

I never want to overpay. I absolutely do want to acquire a WR opposite TO.

OK, Arizona or Detroit calls you and requests your best offer for these guys.


You know what acquiring Boldin or Williams would do for this team at this time in it's history.

What's your best offer? How much do you over pay?

Oh and just for a little extra incentive, they have the eagles on line 2 offering a package with Lito.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

I really don't see why some of us seem to think acquiring a #2 WR with some proven skills is considered a luxury.

If we remain healthy in the passing game, and we didn't down the stretch last season, then were fine. But with some more proven depth, we could afford an injury. Even one that would befall TO. Of course we would have to skate by on Romos coat tails.

If we had a solid #2 plus a healthy TO, then we would be dominant. I'm all for dominance.

It all boils down to this "#2" not being worth "#!" money which is what he will get if he is aquired. If i was Jerry i wouldn't pay top dollar to a number 2 wide reciever and neither are the Lions or Cardinals.

 

[FCBarca]

Because a blind squirrel found a nut he is all of a sudden a great WR? It was 1catch nothing more. You are claiming how good the Giants young WR are yet they were not great this past season . There is no doubt Austin and Hurd need to prove themselves this season if they hope to continue on with Dallas but it is not uncommon for a WR to take some time before they come into their own.

Those squirrels were making catches and plays against Dallas and New England (i.e. Steve Smith, Kevin Boss and Tyree)...When do we see our squirrels make plays in games like these?

It isn't about being a 1,000 yard receiver to lineup next to TO, it's about being able to make plays and give something to the team when it's needed...I can't recall a time where a backup WR made plays when the chips were down.

 

[sonnyboy]

were probably trading up for a WR anyway, why not get a sure thing w/ the picks instead of an unkown who might take time to develop.

Im afraid of a Galloway as well, but were in win now mode

"Because we have more than enough pieces to win now.
Our roster, as it stands is arguably the most talented in the NFL, IMO by a decent margin. I don't think any other team can compete with what we have across the board.
Doesn't mean we'll go 16-0, but we have enough to win it all.
You can't stockpile positions and sacrifice the future just because you're afraid TO might sprain his coccyx in week 13."

Good posts guys. You know I think WR is the one spot we could and should load up. Especially with a guy who can replace TO. What's a coccyx?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Because we have more than enough pieces to win now.

Our roster, as it stands is arguably the most talented in the NFL, IMO by a decent margin. I don't think any other team can compete with what we have across the board.

Doesn't mean we'll go 16-0, but we have enough to win it all.

You can't stockpile positions and sacrifice the future just because you're afraid TO might sprain his coccyx in week 13.

Acquiring a 20 something Roy Williams or Bodin would sacrafice the future?

a 2nd WR isnt a back up, its another weapon.

We have no holes, next years draft well either trade up for a WR(unknown) or get depth. Ill give that up if it means increasing our odds even more.(Were not the favorites)

 

[Doomsday101]

Those squirrels were making catches and plays against Dallas and New England (i.e. Steve Smith, Kevin Boss and Tyree)...When do we see our squirrels make plays in games like these?

It isn't about being a 1,000 yard receiver to lineup next to TO, it's about being able to make plays and give something to the team when it's needed...I can't recall a time where a backup WR made plays when the chips were down.

Timmy Smith of the Commanders had over 200 yards rushing in the SB after than nothing his career went down the tubes it is not about 1 game you don't judge any player off 1 game and determine he is some type of great WR. The NFL has had many guys who had a great game in the post season and that was it. You want to claim the Giants WR as very good be my guest evidently we have a different view of what is great. For the most part these guys did nothing last year and Tryee a 6 year vet I'm not sure why you even threw his name into the mix?

 

[FCBarca]

Timmy Smith of the Commanders had over 200 yards rushing in the SB after than nothing his career went down the tubes it is not about 1 game you don't judge any player off 1 game and determine he is some type of great WR. The NFL has had many guys who had a great game in the post season and that was it. You want to claim the Giants WR as very good be my guest evidently we have a different view of what is great. For the most part these guys did nothing last year and Tryee a 6 year vet I'm not sure why you even threw his name into the mix?

Big games and a players steps up, that stands out...And it was in impressive style, you can't deny that.

Steve Smith and Boss didn't just do it in one game, they were weapons from the end of the season through the playoffs...Those were rookies...Not sure how you can sweep that under the rug...Who contributed as a complement to TO in that same stretch?...No one.

 

[superpunk]

Acquiring a 20 something Roy Williams or Bodin would sacrafice the future?

a 2nd WR isnt a back up, its another weapon.

We have no holes, next years draft well either trade up for a WR(unknown) or get depth. Ill give that up if it means increasing our odds even more.(Were not the favorites)

We're already up against the cap, and in the last offseason we extended the relatively ancient Flozell Adams and Terrell Owens. Going after an injury-prone WR (both of them are) with a high pick is exactly what sacrificing the future is. You acquire those guys via free agency or when their value is at an all time low, like Moss. Not when you've already got a stacked team up against the cap with DeMarcus Ware needing to set the record for a defensive contract, and Boldin and Williams needing new contracts.

It's like, come on....

 

[Sandyf]

The SMARTEST thing that Jerry and Dallas can do right now on the WR front is WAIT. Give the WRs we have a couple of weeks to see what pans out before anyone panics ----- unless, Arizona or Detroit or Cincinnati come calling.

Injuries are the key, us staying away from them but those teams not. Cincinnati has already had it's share of injuries on the DL, anymore and desparation might set in for someone say like Spears.

Detroit has injuries at the CB position and are supposedly thin at the DL for decent players.

Arizona is basically the same as Detroit.

So look at it this way, if we stay injury free (hopefully), we may be able to get one of the premier guys for a decent price, say something like Spears, possibly Alan Ball and a 3rd for any of them. Now that is a deal we would do.

I just don't see us overpaying for Williams or Johnson when there is a better than even chance both will be free agents at the end of the year. In Johnson case either a trade or overright cut. Williams is about 20-80 to be franchised. Boldin on the other hand would cost something but it is Arizona so we will have to see.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

wow.....that sounds a little much

remember Gallawoy?

 

[Doomsday101]

Big games and a players steps up, that stands out...And it was in impressive style, you can't deny that.

Steve Smith and Boss didn't just do it in one game, they were weapons from the end of the season through the playoffs...Those were rookies...Not sure how you can sweep that under the rug...Who contributed as a complement to TO in that same stretch?...No one.

Boss is a TE not a WR you do understand the difference correct? Smith did have a good post season. As I said Austin and Hurd do need to step up or they could be replaced difference is I believe they can, I evidently do not give up on players as quickly as you do. Many WR in the NFL have taken 2 to 3 years to develop so it is not uncommon.

 

[FCBarca]

I'm not advocating selling the farm for a top tier WR...On the contrary.

I'm just saying that this talk about a WR emerging from the current crop is beginning to lose some steam for me...I hope I'm wrong

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

wow.....that sounds a little much

remember Gallawoy?

this post > SuperPunks post

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

I'm not advocating selling the farm for a top tier WR...On the contrary.

I'm just saying that this talk about a WR emerging from the current crop is beginning to lose some steam for me...I hope I'm wrong

you are very wrong. dont worry

 

[FCBarca]

Boss is a TE not a WR you do understand the difference correct? Smith did have a good post season. As I said Austin and Hurd do need to step up or they could be replaced difference is I believe they can, I evidently do not give up on players as quickly as you do. Many WR in the NFL have taken 2 to 3 years to develop so it is not uncommon.

Uhh, yes, thank you...I didn't realize that beheamoth of a man was a TE

The point is that he's a receiver out there, a target for the QB...And these targets for a hopelessly inept Giant offense with the exception of Burress managed to field rookies out there and still move the chains AND in big games.

And I have pointed out that while guys like Hurd and Austin keep giving us talk of promise, they have yet to show up when we've needed them going into Season 3...The receivers I mentioned, did it in year 1...Coming full circle, I pointed out that this idea that they have to develop for years before they show something seemed to have it's foundation crumble with the Giants' success...It can happen with receivers who step up.

If we never hear from Smith, Boss or Tyree again then sure you're right...If we do, what's the likelihood that the ones we won't hear about again are actually guys like Hurd and Austin?