Is Merriman on way out in San Diego this year or next? Would Wade look at him?

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theogt;2926676 said:
I'm not the one twisting your arm into making these silly arguments.

I understand your opinion on Wade and whether he'll be back. But you have to accept that others think the reasoning behind your opinion is a little -- off.

Personally, I think the odds are he won't be back, because the odds are we won't make it to the Super Bowl and I think that's what it will likely take for him to keep his job. But I'm not going to say that the "odds" are 1/16 that we'll make it to the Super Bowl.
I wasn't arguing. I was clarifying math. There is a big time difference.

I didn't say 1/16 either. I said 1/32. I didn't say get to the Super Bowl. I said win it. Technically the odds are 1/16 that we will make it since there are 2 teams.

Again, that is simply mathematical accuracy it has no reflection on talent as I have repeatedly said.
 

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Sarge;2926678 said:
But talking strictly math is meaningless with regard to this subject - or am I missing something?
I would guess you are. I never said the math was meaningful. I simply stated the odds as all 32 teams sit right now. No idea why that is so offensive or hard to grasp.

Here you go, this is a word problem on a math test.

There are 32 teams in a sports league and only one can be crowned as champion. What are the odds team A is that champion?

If you come up with any answer other than .03125 or 3.125% then you will not get that question right.

That is all I am saying and all I have been saying from the word go when I added math to my opinion.
 

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Hostile;2926680 said:
I wasn't arguing. I was clarifying math. There is a big time difference.
I think you might want to check out the definition of "arguing." You very clearly have been engaging in arguments in this thread. And, please, don't think of the term "arguments" as what children have with each other.

I didn't say 1/16 either. I said 1/32. I didn't say get to the Super Bowl. I said win it. Technically the odds are 1/16 that we will make it since there are 2 teams.
Re-read my post and you might understand where the 1/16 came from. To help you out in that regard, in the post you're quoting, I stated that my opinion was that reaching the Super Bowl would be sufficient. I was not referencing your opinion or any of your posts.

Again, that is simply mathematical accuracy it has no reflection on talent as I have repeatedly said.
I think we're all aware that your "mathematical accuracy" has no reflection of what is "likely" or what might be construed as "odds."
 

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Odds are really one in twenty nine. Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos have no prayer. None-zero.
 

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Hostile;2926569 said:
It is Wade's contract year and he is not being offered an extension.

Even if Jerry does not go with Jason Garrett (I think he will) I think he would go get Holmgren or Shanahan.

I honestly think the only reasons Wade is here has to do with the amount of money the stadium cost. No way Jerry wants to pay a man not working for him.

Speaking of money, get Ware's deal done.

IMO, Wade would have to win the Super Bowl to save his job. He has a 3% chance of that happening.


I'm really surprised to see this from you. I know you have no love lost for Wade.

But do you really think Jerry let money factor into his decision to keep Wade one more year?
 

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Hostile;2926684 said:
Blah blah blah. I knew better than to respond the last time I said it was wasting my time.
Someone needs thicker skin.
 

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sonnyboy;2926686 said:
I'm really surprised to see this from you. I know you have no love lost for Wade.

But do you really think Jerry let money factor into his decision to keep Wade one more year?
Yes sir.

Jerry wants to win. I have always defended him on that front. No one wants to win more. But Jerry wants to win his way. That I do find fault for.

When the Gailey and Campo experiments blew up in his face he did the best thing he has done as the GM. He hired a legend. Parcells fell way below my expectations, but I cannot fault Jerry for Parcells failures here.

When Parcells showed a yellow streak up his back after the Seattle loss Jerry went through the most extensive Coaching search of his tenure as Cowboys owner. I applaud him for that.

Wade was the best choice at that point.

I cannot with a straight face say Wade is the best option right now. Not with proven winners like Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren, Dungy, and Gruden unemployed. Now I doubt all of those guys would work for Jerry, but I'd bet 3 of them would and give us a better chance to win.

I also look at the Dan Reeves debacle which I took very hard. If winning is the aim and money is not an object, then why wasn't Dan Reeves retained? Over a time clock type clause? That's Campo-like stupid.

I would not have hesitated to hire Holmgren or Shanahan and fired Wade. Not even one second if I knew I could 100% sure have one of those guys.
 

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Hostile;2926681 said:
I would guess you are. I never said the math was meaningful. I simply stated the odds as all 32 teams sit right now. No idea why that is so offensive or hard to grasp.

Here you go, this is a word problem on a math test.

There are 32 teams in a sports league and only one can be crowned as champion. What are the odds team A is that champion?

If you come up with any answer other than .03125 or 3.125% then you will not get that question right.

That is all I am saying and all I have been saying from the word go when I added math to my opinion.

I am not offended - I am just trying to be certain I am understainding your point correctly.

However, I think you completely wrong in your assessment on the chances of individual teams winning the Super Bowl. You would be correct if the TALENT on all 32 teams were equal but the are clearly not. Thus, your rationale is incorrect.

If you were talking about 32 tickets being drawn out of a hat -you would be correct in your rationale - but that is not what we have here.

IE: the chance that the Patriots make the Super Bowl are not the same as the Detroit Lions.

IMO/FWIW/.02.

:)

This is a statistics question and when you talk like that in this regard, all things have to be equal from the start.
 

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I honestly think the only reasons Wade is here has to do with the amount of money the stadium cost. No way Jerry wants to pay a man not working for him.

You are way off base IMO. Jerry's ego gets in the way again. Deep down he knew Wade should have been fired after the Philly game. Jerry just didnt want to look foolish by firing another puppet two years after hiring him. He thinks Switzer proved his win with any of 500 coaches theory. That was a different time, place, and team. Jerry could easily bury the Wade mistake financially without blinking.
 

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Wow. What the hell happened here? A guy throws out a percentage and some simple math and the 'I'm smarter than you' crowd shows up?


Put on your football hats, fellas...................
 

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Hostile;2926669 said:
One of the greatest posts ever. I wonder what happened to that guy. Danged if his username isn't escaping me right now.

Wasn't it Chris something?
 

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Hostile;2926638 said:
Ah, I should just assume you are right and the person I know who has met him is full of crap, despite all the negative stories that have happened around this guy since he shared that info wit us so long ago.

Got it.

I never said He is full of crap but if you believe everything people say you are a fool.. I would assume someone as smart and mathematically gifted as youself would not place judgment on something or someone without first hand experience or atleast a little more evidene then just some pal of yours claiming merriman is a bully.

But wait you are always right and I'm wrong. Got it.
 

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Sarge;2926692 said:
I am not offended - I am just trying to be certain I am understainding your point correctly.

However, I think you completely wrong in your assessment on the chances of individual teams winning the Super Bowl. You would be correct if the TALENT on all 32 teams were equal but the are clearly not. Thus, your rationale is incorrect.

If you were talking about 32 tickets being drawn out of a hat -you would be correct in your rationale - but that is not what we have here.

IE: the chance that the Patriots make the Super Bowl are not the same as the Detroit Lions.

IMO/FWIW/.02.

:)

This is a statistics question and when you talk like that in this regard, all things have to be equal from the start.
For the 10th time. I was not talking about equal talent.
 

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DallasDomination;2926758 said:
I never said He is full of crap but if you believe everything people say you are a fool.. I would assume someone as smart and mathematically gifted as youself would not place judgment on something or someone without first hand experience or atleast a little more evidene then just some pal of yours claiming merriman is a bully.

But wait you are always right and I'm wrong. Got it.
Would first hand experince also be remembering steroids suspensions and arrest for domestic violence? Or since I was neither a Balco employee or an arresting officer I should have no opinion on it. I wonder how we ever survive in life. Why did you bu that car if you don't work for GM? You know nothing about that car.

Why did you read the new Harry Potter book if you aren't going to be in the movie.

Man, makes life sound awful dull to go through everything with your eyes shut. Think I'll stick with what I've observed and learned.
 
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DallasDomination;2926547 said:
Merriman is not a thugg...Why are so many people so sensitive. Feels like I'm in church sometimes and nobody has ever got out of line or done something bad. First of all Nobody knows what really happened with tila tequila. Rich little girls tend to lie and be drama queens.

Merriman is a man child roids or not and if the chance ever came to Bring him to dallas it would be stupid not to accept the idea and be happy about it.


If he isn't a choir boy, dont bring him in. We need more Bobby Carpenters on this team.
 

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If Dallas is going to spend big money on a complement to Ware at OLB, then I would rather have Julius Peppers. Peppers does not have the off field issues, has been more consistent, less injured, does not rely on artificial enhancers and most importantly HE WANTS TO BE A COWBOY.
 

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Hostile;2926762 said:
For the 10th time. I was not talking about equal talent.

My point exactly.

;)
 
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