Is this the lowest the fanbase has ever been?

[mrmojo]

Its the lowest in recent memory and I have been a die hard fan since 1970....I just take it for what it is now.... dont put much into hype anymore...Jerry has numbed me.

1970's- Worst season was 8-6 in 74 and no playoff appearence, thats as bad as it got, But Landry, Tex and Gil the next year had one of the NFLs greates drafts.

1980's- The 3 straight NFC championship losses were devestating but there was always hope, until Danny went down in 86 and they couldnt draft to save their lives. 87-89 were terrible teams.

1990's- Jimmy brought us the SBs and I was ridng high, in my prime, life was good. Firung Jimmy, hiring Barry and signing Deon was the start of the dynasty downfall. By 97 the team had gotten stale and old. Still made playoffs in 98-99 bit you could see the talent wasn't being replenished.

2000's- The Campo/Lacewell years. Jerry thought he could do it his way (sound familiar). Drafts were lacking, talent was lacking, QB was a revolving door. Parcells helped get us back to being highly competitive, if he had stayed one more year I think they get to SB in 2007. But not to be, Wade was a puppet, Jerry didnt need Bill anymore and the Red Headed Genius was waiting in the wings.

2010s- The Garret years. Just good enough to staye relevant. People say those teams lacked talent but from 2014-2019 their should have been enough talent to get to an NFC Championship game at least. JG was there 10 years too long, JGs tenure was the beginning of my indifference.

2020's- More of the same just a different coach and better regular seasons but same playoff dissapontments.

Constant in all this? The Owner, FO and GM..............they say even a squirrel finds a nut now and then.......but I just dont see this happening with the Jones's. Im just glad I was blessed to see all the championships, wins and losses. Most of the younger fans have never had the great sensation of having your team win or the harsh dissapointment of a championship loss.

 

[DuncanIso]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

1988
2000-2002
2010
2015
2020
2024

might be missing a few....

 

[JohnsKey19]

Of course it’s the cumulative effect. This isn’t just comparing 1 poor season to another. It’s decades of crap management and nepotism!

Agreed. With that in mind, obviously now is the worst. I was just going down my list while I've been a fan.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

I think it is the lowest because the Joneses took the mask off completely, they do not care at all about winning, the fanbase or the franchise history.

This clowns showed us who they really are very cynically.

 

[Creeper]

It was different for me back then, because we weren’t playing very well for three or four seasons before Landry was released because Jerry purchased a team. You still had opportunity to be very good this season other than injuries which killed us. People forget we were down to our third string backfield
when you see what really happened and why, you know it not hard to fix. And losing the coach that was a positive.

And the Cowboys were really bad those last years of Landry's reign. The ownership of the team was in question and the Cowboys were not really doing anything to improve the team at the time. When Jerry bought the team there was hope he would invest in players and rebuild a bad team.

Where we are not is facing the reality that we can't every be a contender again until Jerry gives up control of the team, and even then we have to be concerned about Stephen who could be worse. I believe Jerry's control over the Cowboys will last no more than 3 more years. I think he is showing signs of a mental decline of some sort already. This won't get better, it will get worse quickly. I do think the Cowboys mess will get worse too. But within 3 years from now I think Stephen will be more in control of the team than Jerry. Is that reason for optimism?

 

[Bullflop]

I would say that this year is the worst low that I have ever seen on this website for the fans that frequent this site. Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones have failed to prove themselves as reliable managers of the Dallas Cowboys' organization. They continually rely upon mediocre coaching to resolve what has been relatively unsuccessful years for the last three decades. Simply put, it's toxic for the fans.

A once-proud organization is now struggling to maintain their mediocre stance in the NFL, with no promise of relief in sight. Jerry Jones continually relies upon mediocre coaching that he can easily control. It's a sad scenario that also insists upon the cheapest ways to function. That situation will never be the way to succeed. Inept management has long been a terrible curse to this team.

 

[blueblood70]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

No it's not how can it be the Campbell years the Chan gaily years I mean the first ten years of 2000 were terrible and the eagles were destroying us even though they weren't winning Super Bowls they were dominating the division which doesn't happen very often those were the bad years.. And by the way we did have to put up with it you're listing good points they have to go through a three-year transition from Tom Landry to Jimmy Johnson and it was really bad for a couple years until it got turned around those were by far worse than going through this McCarthy era at least McCarthy won 36 games two division titles and three straight playoff appearances we've been to the playoffs 5 out of last eight years I realized that's hard to accept given the current situation..

So it's a definitive no this is not the worst time there is no way in hell that it be compared to those years that we are discussing up there until it is until this becomes a long thing a lot of bad years strung together right now it's a injury riddled year with a transition to another coach and we'll see how it works out then we can start comparing it if the next three years are like 2024 sure we can talk about how bad this stretch might be but unless it's actually a stretch then no the answer is no it's not the worst...

I also wanna add I know people are not gonna be happy with the new coaching staff especially if it's the rumors are true but I remember all this energy saying that Mike McCarthy with a bad hire that there were better hires on the other teams during that hiring cycle and yet when we look back at it now Mike McCarthy was clearly and it's not even close the best hire of 2020.. He had the most success by far no one was even close those coaches all failed hard..

There was much controversy is being brought up with the possible new coaching staff they're not gonna like I wanna remind you guys that you said the same thing about Mike McCarthy and he turned out pretty good let's just say he was above expectations 'cause when he was brought out of retirement the same stuff was said about him as they're talking about whatever coaching staff we end up with.

i prefer the story to play out before i judge it....

 

[Chuck 54]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

Not even close.....Try the three seasons in a row at 5-11 under Campo or the 1-15 season under Johnson or the Landry strike season when we were losing with our starters vs bums off the street or the more recent season 2015 season when our starting QBs were
Matt Cassell - 1-6
Brandon Weedon - 0-3
Kellen Moore - 0-2 and Romo only played 4 games.

This roster is a dumpster fire with 1 top OLman, 1 top pass rusher, 1 top receiver, and an above average QB. The rest are young hopefuls or guys who have proven that they are just JAGS or worse. But I've seen it much worse. Winning in the NFL isn't all about 1 or 2 stars, not even if you have an elite QB. Winning is about having solid role players throughout the roster who can do their jobs. Guys like Brooks and Turpin, Deuce Vaughn, Damon Clark, Trey Lance, Mukwamu, Waletzko, Booth....they aren't even role players. They are guys sitting on the roster making money who shouldn't ever see the field, imo. We know who and what they are at this point; I'd rather pay a rookie or a minimum veteran who might actually help us.

Jerry holds onto guys for way too long and values their training camp production against other scrubs when he has seen they cannot play on Sundays. Sadly, he seems to be getting worse instead of better.

 

[john van brocklin]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

It's the worse because there is no hope.
It has become abundently clear that Jerry the GM cant build a winning team.
He simply lacks the skill set to do so.
So, I know that we will never go to another SB with him as GM.
So until he steps down, my enthusism for this team is in the toilet.

 

[john van brocklin]

Not even close.....Try the three seasons in a row at 5-11 under Campo or the 1-15 season under Johnson or the Landry strike season when we were losing with our starters vs bums off the street or the more recent season 2015 season when our starting QBs were
Matt Cassell - 1-6
Brandon Weedon - 0-3
Kellen Moore - 0-2 and Romo only played 4 games.

This roster is a dumpster fire with 1 top OLman, 1 top pass rusher, 1 top receiver, and an above average QB. The rest are young hopefuls or guys who have proven that they are just JAGS or worse. But I've seen it much worse. Winning in the NFL isn't all about 1 or 2 stars, not even if you have an elite QB. Winning is about having solid role players throughout the roster who can do their jobs. Guys like Brooks and Turpin, Deuce Vaughn, Damon Clark, Trey Lance, Mukwamu, Waletzko, Booth....they aren't even role players. They are guys sitting on the roster making money who shouldn't ever see the field, imo. We know who and what they are at this point; I'd rather pay a rookie or a minimum veteran who might actually help us.

Jerry holds onto guys for way too long and values their training camp production against other scrubs when he has seen they cannot play on Sundays. Sadly, he seems to be getting worse instead of better.

One disagreement:
I was very hopeful after the 1 and 15 season because of the Walker trade and all the draft picks we had coming in.

 

[FanofJerry]

Everyone got rich from Jerry's ways but me...

So...why is this board complaining about the guy?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

One disagreement:
I was very hopeful after the 1 and 15 season because of the Walker trade and all the draft picks we had coming in.

I was too. I knew the bad times weren't going to last forever. The very next year they played some inspired football. FF to today
They could win 12 games and I'd never believe in them. This team doesn't care about winning titles anymore.

 

[Chuck 54]

I think Jerry running his mouth and making a fool of himself multiple times in the last 12 months has really made people believe he is the problem. Given that he is going nowhere until he has some physical reason why he can't and his replacement (Stephen) might be dumber than him, there doesn't appear to be much light at the end of the tunnel.

Back in the Campo days, I remember there being hope. If the team just did X, Y or Z it would get better. That's true now too but we have no thought that they will actually do X, Y or Z.

We will find out soon just how inept Mike McCarthy was. Personally, I think he got a lot out of the garbage Jerry gave him.
Show me a playoff team that's near the bottom of the league every year in run defense, has weak DTs and no stud LBs.
Show me a playoff team that has no RB except an overachieving, admirable undrafted back who can't break any big plays and has 1 WR who can actually get open, but no #2 or #3 with any playmaking skills.

Fans overvalue our garbage roster that is not built for the playoffs or battling the best teams, and then blame it on the coaching or the QB.
I'm not saying Mike McCarthy is an elite top 5 coach or that Dak is an elite top 5 QB, but they are both above average and have shown that they can coach and play very well when given weapons.

Meanwhile, fans are lamenting the loss of Dan Quinn and how great he is because he got Washington this far; how fast we forget that during those three 12 win seasons and in the playoffs, he never could stop any team that was determined to run the ball. Even when they were gouging us for over 200 yards, he had no answer that would have at least made them stop and pass us to death. When a team passes, at least there a chance of a drop or a bad pass or the wind, but when you can't stop the run, you're just hoping for a penalty.

After Jerry saw the season Dak and Mike had last year with Lamb and Cooks, he should have been determined to bring in a real RB and another playmaking receiver if he wanted to be all in for a title. He should have brought in another run stopping DT and some depth at inside LB. Even with all the injuries, that could have made a huge difference for everyone. Even Rush may have had a chance with the offense against a good team.

 

[john van brocklin]

It's definitely the worst for me. Been a fan since 1970 and live in Eagles country so I have taken a lot of crap over the years from their fans. Only difference is, now, I don't have anything to say to them when they bust my stones. The Five Rings thing is old and when you havent gotten even a sniff in 30 years, ineffective. Now he's gonna hire a coach that not one other team has bothered to interview because he knows him and can control him. No hope to ever compete for the title while Jerry is in charge. Sorry to vent but it is what it is

About the same for me, except I live in Deadskins land.
Been a fan since 1975, btw.
Jerry has just sucked all the hope out of this fanbase by his unwillingness to step down in the face of 29 years of failure.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Guys like...Turpin...they aren't even role players. They are guys sitting on the roster making money who shouldn't ever see the field, imo. We know who and what they are at this point

You literally singled out an All-Pro.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Kinda reminds you of when Landry was fired hope we have the same results lol

Nah, we knew we were getting Aikman as number 1 pick in the next draft even before Jimmy took the job.

People were sad that the Landry era was over, but most knew that it was time for a new direction.

Even the Campo years weren't this bleak because the previous dynasty was only a handful of years prior with several players as a connection to that era still on the team.

This is absolutely the worst place the franchise has been in ever, and it's going to get a lot worse as more years of playoff futility go by.

Literally the only thing that could bring optimism back would be for the Jones family to sell the team.

 

[ICP]

I don’t think this compares to any specific year—it’s more like the result of years of management’s poor decisions piling up, combined with growing frustration and hopelessness from the fan base.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Not even close. There has been some lean years worse than this. There is a good amount of talent on the roster. That hasn't always been the case.

But there's no hope. I don't know why you insist on deluding yourself, but go ahead.

 

[Bobhaze]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

It has to be at the top. I’ve been a Cowboys fan since 1964 when I was 6. The lowest years I can remember (in no particular order) are:

• Now…for the reasons we are all discussing. This is the lowest IMO.
• 1968. After two close losses to GB in ‘66 and ‘67 in the conference championship games, in 1968 the Cowboys got blown out by Cleveland in the divisional round. Don Meredith retired and the future was very uncertain.
• 1988-89. End of the Landry era with 20 playoff wins and 2 SB rings. Jimmy’s first year in 89 we were 1-15 with no certainty we would be good again.
• 2000-2002- The Campo years. It was the end of the 90s team talent and the drafts were terrible.

 

[kskboys]

Been reading all the threads here and listening to constant ridicule on the media of Jethro and Team.

There doesn’t seem to be any optimism from anyone.

Even some of the diehard homers on this board have disappeared or changed their tune.

A lot of lifers here, do you consider this the lowest the fanbase has ever felt about the team?

I remember paper bags on head in Landry’s last year and Jimmy’s first year.

Fans were low after the Campo years until a rejuvenation shot of Parcells.

But is this the worst it’s ever been?

Yes, this is by far the worst. Why? Because there are no glimmers in sight. We've painted ourselves into a corner, w/ the upside being a 1st round playoff loss. If that.