Isaiah Stanback breaks down film

[America's Cowboy]

Street ball? You have no clue dude. If Dak wasn’t supposed to throw it at the point of the break where he was to be most open, he most certainly wasn’t supposed to throw it closer to the safety than the receiver. There is literally an almost five yard pocket from the linebacker and almost ten yard pocket to the safety that CD is sitting in when he is most open. I don’t know how anyone can blame CD for this.

What don't you understand? The area supposed to be open is between the LBs and Safeties. That's what they practice. Had CeeDee squared off his route and ran horizontal, he would have hit the open spot and caught the ball in stride. Instead, he rounded off his route and slowed down. Isaiah Stanbach explained it properly on video.

 

[speedkilz88]

Dak threw it too late. Should have thrown it to the spot as soon as CD made his cut.

CeeDee never made his cut that was the problem.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

If sturm is correct lamb can’t be counted on

But Sturm didn’t blame CeeDee!

 

[SultanOfSix]

What don't you understand? The area supposed to be open is between the LBs and Safeties. That's what they practice. Had CeeDee squared off his route and ran horizontal, he would have hit the open spot and caught the ball in stride. Instead, he rounded off his route and slowed down. Isaiah Stanbach explained it properly on video.

Lolwut? You’re just imagining up stuff to absolve Dak of responsibility. Nothing is suggestive of CD supposed to be running a square route on that play. And even if he was supposed to and ran an incorrect route then nothing entailed Dak to the throw an inaccurate pass to an open CD making a break into a huge pocket that was closer to the safety than the receiver. Dak was clearly late and inaccurate on the throw.

 

[speedkilz88]

Lolwut? You’re just imagining up stuff to absolve Dak of responsibility. Nothing is suggestive of CD supposed to be running a square route on that play. And even if he was supposed to and ran an incorrect route then nothing entailed Dak to the throw an inaccurate pass to an open CD making a break into a huge pocket that was closer to the safety than the receiver. Dak was clearly late and inaccurate on the throw.

Try watching the video instead of talking out of your behind.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Try watching the video instead of talking out of your behind.

I have watched the play. Several times. Slowed it down, and reversed it. Stopped it to measure with my eyes the approximate size of the pocket CD is sitting it when he is most open. In the tweet video this occurs at 7s. Anybody else can do this themselves.

I don’t need a video explaining how he “he ran the wrong route”. Because all that would be needed would be to say so. Despite that, if playing street ball is an excuse, it falls on both of them because that doesn’t excuse Dak who decided to join in and throw an inaccurate pass to a receiver who played it to get open and was so.

This isn’t rocket science.

 

[speedkilz88]

I have watched the play. Several times. Slowed it down, and reversed it. Stopped it to measure with my eyes the approximate size of the pocket CD is sitting it when he is most open. In the tweet video this occurs at 7s. Anybody else can do this themselves.

I don’t need a video explaining how he “he ran the wrong route”. Because all that would be needed would be to say so. Despite that, if playing street ball is an excuse, it falls on both of them because that doesn’t excuse Dak who decided to join in and throw an inaccurate pass to a receiver who played it to get open and was so.

This isn’t rocket science.

Apparently for you it is.

 

[nalam]

At some point y’all are gonna have to stop this. People on top of people who breakdown film all keep coming to the same conclusion that ceedee botched this route and if he had ran it correctly this play hits for a huge gainer. We coulda got 3 more points right before half. Ceedee needs to be better next time

Ceedee was in halftime mode and was not willing to take a big hit ( cowboys point wise, rightfully as we are already thin at receiver). Wrong as he may be at that point in the game it was unnecessary.

KM , Dak bad decision. I would have preferred if they want to take a shot , take one which has less risk, either your guy gets it or no one. Like a go route , CD Going over Gallup …

 

[SultanOfSix]

Apparently for you it is.

So I watched it. He suggests that CD should’ve taken a square route (zero indication from his motion that was part of the play call) or that CD was just “lazy”.

I did more of an analysis than he did. CD is looking back at Dak right before the point he is most open. How open CD is at that point is on the film. How Dak was late on the throw is on film. How inaccurate Dak was on the throw because of the former is on the film.

But CD was “lazy” holds more weight in the eyes of apologists.

 

[Qcard]

So I watched it. He suggests that CD should’ve taken a square route (zero indication from his motion that was part of the play call) or that CD was just “lazy”.

I did more of an analysis than he did. CD is looking back at Dak right before the point he is most open. How open CD is at that point is on the film. How Dak was late on the throw is on film. How inaccurate Dak was on the throw because of the former is on the film.

But CD was “lazy” holds more weight in the eyes of apologists.

So yesterday during your posts you HAD NOT watched the video but you MADE an Eye Test

NOW you've watched the video and still disagree with Moose Johnston and Isaiah Stanback???

You analysis is flawed.....

Dak Haters are worthless

 

[SultanOfSix]

So yesterday during your posts you HAD NOT watched the video but you MADE an Eye Test

NOW you've watched the video and still disagree with Moose Johnston and Isaiah Stanback???

You analysis is flawed.....

Dak Haters are worthless

The “eye test”. What sense do you think other people are using? Their nose?

Calling everyone a hater because you ignore the argument they lay out based on the evidence itself and not what others say, don’t like what they say and disagree with it simply because it is negative towards an apparent “idol” is the exemplification of being irrational.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If a receiver decides before the play that a route is “dead” he has issues. That’s not his job but explains why he drops passes at meaningful times and why he ran the route like he did. Also explains why he may not be a number one.

 

[Qcard]

The “eye test”. What sense do you think other people are using?

Football common sense......Moose and Stanback are both Superbowl winning players. Their Eye Test we understand....who is @SultanOfSix again and WHY should we trust his "common sense" or Eye Test?

Their nose?

How else can you detect bs?

Calling everyone a hater because you ignore the argument they lay out based on the evidence itself and not what others say, don’t like what they say and disagree with it simply because it is negative towards an apparent “idol” is the exemplification of being irrational.

We call people Dak Haters whom ignore every football metric Prescott has achieved.

We call people Dak Haters whom move the goalpost every time Prescott earns a milestone similar to other successful QBs in NFL history

 

[Qcard]

If a receiver decides before the play that a route is “dead” he has issues. That’s not his job but explains why he drops passes at meaningful times and why he ran the route like he did. Also explains why he may not be a number one.

Sadly, this is appears to be the pattern and reason teams shied away from Lamb at draft....

I think Lamb is not a very savvy WR.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Football common sense......Moose and Stanback are both Superbowl winning players. Their Eye Test we understand....who is

Catch phrases don't make an argument. And neither does being a SB winning player. There are of plenty of players who sat the bench an entire season who "won" a SB. There are plenty of players who can't coach worth a lick. And there are plenty of never-were-players who are good coaches and/or students of the game. All it takes is some knowledge and understanding of it. That someone is a SB winning player makes someone at least only athletically gifted and intellectually game competent, but it doesn't necessarily make them an authority of the game, and even if they are considered one, simply saying they are an authority is just a fallacy.

How else can you detect bs?

We call people Dak Haters whom ignore every football metric Prescott has achieved.

We call people Dak Haters whom move the goalpost every time Prescott earns a milestone similar to other successful QBs in NFL history

None of these emotionally charged claims have any relevance to the play in question. I thought Dak played a solid game on Sunday and even said it in one of the post game threads here. It doesn't grant him immunity from making mistakes, especially in situations where he has proven to have trouble: efficiently seeing "NFL open" windows in zone defenses.

 

[Qcard]

Catch phrases don't make an argument.

Neither does assuming we are Calling all people Dak Haters just those whom oppose those whom have played, coached and worked professionally in the NFL at a high level... @SultanOfSix has none of the qualifications.... Authority (gained from experience) matters or we'll have Eye Test coaches starting their Sons at every home game...

And neither does being a SB winning player. There are of plenty of players who sat the bench an entire season who "won" a SB. There are plenty of players who can't coach worth a lick. And there are plenty of never-were-players who are good coaches and/or students of the game.

There are also Forum posters with catchy leadership names like @SultanOfSix who has not been doxxed but we should take his Eye Test opinion because....what???

Dak Haters have educated themselves into imbecility

All it takes is some knowledge and understanding of it. That someone is a SB winning player makes someone at least only athletically gifted and intellectually game competent, but it doesn't necessarily make them an authority of the game, and even if they are considered one, simply saying they are an authority is just a fallacy.

You are a Dak Hater IF resumes and experience doesn't matter ESPECIALLY IF it disagrees with your Eye Test Opinion....

They are not saying they are authorities, they are PROVING it with FACTs and coupled with their experience that interprets the FACTS.

Who is @SultanOfSix?

Why should we believe him?

Does @SultanOfSix know the plays?

None of these emotionally charged claims have any relevance to the play in question. I thought Dak played a solid game on Sunday and even said it in one of the post game threads here. It doesn't grant him immunity from making mistakes, especially in situations where he has proven to have trouble: efficiently seeing "NFL open" windows in zone defenses.

Bravo....general consensus

But the Experts whom don't matter to you disagree about the INT.....Dak Hater

 

[tyke1doe]

Simple. Because Dak saw CeeDee taking a more rounded route, thus was forced to try to give CeeDee a chance to catch the pass.

But Stanback's argument is that Dak threw the ball where it was supposed to go (in the flat), but CeeDee didn't run the right route.

If that's true, then the ball should have been an incompletion.

If what Stanback's saying is not true, then Dak was wrong to throw it further up field because the safety was staring him down and had the jump on the ball.

I'm not interested in bashing Dak. We have enough of that around here. I'm just trying to understand Stanback's argument. And it just doesn't sound right.

Again, Stanback argues that CeeDee should have taken the flat route underneath the safety because it was open. Yet, Dak throws the ball to the deeper route.

Dak didn't anticipate his throw. He was sight-reading, which is what his critics ride him for.

I'm not going to call Stanback wrong because he knows more football than I do. But, frankly, his argument doesn't make sense.

 

[America's Cowboy]

But Stanback's argument is that Dak threw the ball where it was supposed to go (in the flat), but CeeDee didn't run the right route.

If that's true, then the ball should have been an incompletion.

If what Stanback's saying is not true, then Dak was wrong to throw it further up field because the safety was staring him down and had the jump on the ball.

I'm not interested in bashing Dak. We have enough of that around here. I'm just trying to understand Stanback's argument. And it just doesn't sound right.

Again, Stanback argues that CeeDee should have taken the flat route underneath the safety because it was open. Yet, Dak throws the ball to the deeper route.

Dak didn't anticipate his throw. He was sight-reading, which is what his critics ride him for.

I'm not going to call Stanback wrong because he knows more football than I do. But, frankly, his argument doesn't make sense.

Both Stanbach and Dak are right at the same time. CeeDee threw the whole play off by rounding off his route, then slowing down. Stanbach is correct is explaining where the play was intended to go and how CeeDee at the bare minimum would have been able to at least get his hands on the ball and either complete the catch or break it up. Clearly, the Safety got a good read on it, but it never would have been intercepted had CeeDee ran his route correctly and attacked that ball in the air.

 

[tyke1doe]

Both Stanbach and Dak are right at the same time. CeeDee threw the whole play off by rounding off his route, then slowing down. Stanbach is correct is explaining where the play was intended to go and how CeeDee at the bare minimum would have been able to at least get his hands on the ball and either complete the catch or break it up. Clearly, the Safety got a good read on it, but it never would have been intercepted had CeeDee ran his route correctly and attacked that ball in the air.

Well, CeeDee didn't make a mistake by stutter stepping. I'm still confused by Stanback's explanation. But I do appreciate the breakdown.

 

[BAT]

Cowboys Mobile: Film Room: More Challenges Moving Forward
https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/film-room-more-challenges-moving-forward

Add Suh to the DT rotation and this Cowboys interior is set.

The trade for Hankins is underrated but we need one more rock in the middle to keep all the big boys fresh.