It's really time for both Dak sides to stop and move on

[SultanOfSix]

LOL. Was there ever a thread like this for Romo? I don’t recall it. The guy was pounded into oblivion until he retired.

Dak is a decent QB in the regular season. Top 12. He can play top 5 sometimes, but mostly hangs between 8-12. In the playoffs, that stays the same, and that’s typically what’s not good enough because the competition level rises. There’s no more weak teams to pad the stats. He’s not a QB that can go toe-to-toe with more mid-range accurate passers. He’ll need a strong D every game in the playoffs to have a chance and not turn it over for most likely three straight games just to get to a SB and that’s still questionable concerning his recent history.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If it wasn't for Lamb and Dak this year, they should be paying Parsons this year. The longer you wait to pay a player, the worse it is on the cap hit. Parsons is probably going to be paid a ridiculous amount of money. You want at least one year left, his 5th year option, to counteract his huge contract.

If they wait an extra year his cap hits will be stupid high. You always pay players you know you're going to keep after their 3rd year. That's what keeps the cap hits at their best. This is why we got into a problem with Dak. Because they waited until his contract was over before giving him that 2nd contract.

Well we know what they should do but have no evidence of them doing it. I’ve given up saying what they should do. Whether it’s Micah’s team or Cowboys this deal is more then likely gonna get done after 2025 season and possibly later with a tag.

 

[RonnieT24]

We have to.

Lance isn’t ready…yet.

I was a huge Dak fan.

but he’s Danny White. Except Danny actually won playoff games.

Danny White was gifted a team that had gone to the Super Bowl 2 of the last 3 years before he was handed the reigns including 11-5 the year before he took over. Dak was given a team that had only made the playoffs once in the last 6 years before he was handed the reigns including 4-12 the year before he took over. Their situations could not have been more different.

Danny threw 15 INTs in 10 playoff starts including 3 in a game three times! Yikes! Dak has never thrown three picks in any of his 7 playoff starts. Suffice it to say Danny was the starting QB in those game but more often than not he was not the reason the team won. With the exception of that amazing comeback against the Falcons, he was pretty much carried by the rest of the team. And even as good as that team was he only went 5-5.

Even as a kid I remember thinking Danny White throws too many interceptions but I was blown away when I looked it up! 15 picks in 10 starts!?!?! I know the game was different back then... but damn!!

 

[Flamma]

Well we know what they should do but have no evidence of them doing it. I’ve given up saying what they should do. Whether it’s Micah’s team or Cowboys this deal is more then likely gonna get done after 2025 season and possibly later with a tag.

I'm telling you now. They absolutely have to pay Parsons in this next offseason. Besides, he will hold out. Jerry will pay him. Just get it over with. If the Cowboys let him play out his 5th year option, then they don't intend to keep him.

 

[RonnieT24]

None of this is true, but you're free to believe whatever you want. Dallas gets both Balt and SF over the next 6 weeks. Should they somehow beat 1 of those teams you might see opinions begin to change. The problem is that most of us, and some stans included, don't think Dallas has a chance in hell of beating either one.

Really so when the Cowboys beat the Eagles the last year people weren't falling all over themselves declaring that the "Eagles were in a freefall?" People weren't rationalizing the Cowboys win over the Lions as "luck?" We don't have to go back very far to find evidence of the reclassification behavior. Going back the year before when the Cowboys beat the Eagles it was "Hurts didn't play" and when they beat the brakes off the Bucs in the playoffs it was "well they weren't a real playoff team." Even though they turned around and made the playoffs again with Baker Friggin Mayfield at QB the following year. Just because you pretend something is not reality doesn't stop it from being so.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Danny White was gifted a team that had gone to the Super Bowl 2 of the last 3 years before he was handed the reigns including 11-5 the year before he took over. Dak was given a team that had only made the playoffs once in the last 6 years before he was handed the reigns including 4-12 the year before he took over. Their situations could not have been more different.

Danny threw 15 INTs in 10 playoff starts including 3 in a game three times! Yikes! Dak has never thrown three picks in any of his 7 playoff starts. Suffice it to say Danny was the starting QB in those game but more often than not he was not the reason the team won. With the exception of that amazing comeback against the Falcons, he was pretty much carried by the rest of the team. And even as good as that team was he only went 5-5.

Even as a kid I remember thinking Danny White throws too many interceptions but I was blown away when I looked it up! 15 picks in 10 starts!?!?! I know the game was different back then... but damn!!

Danny inherited an old team. Dak inherited a young team that went 13-3 with him as a fill in when Romo went down. That team was loaded just like last year, and Dak couldn't get passed GB both years despite 1 and 2 seeds.

White did more with less than Dak has done so far, and this can't be refuted until Dak actually does something in the playoffs beyond bad games.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm telling you now. They absolutely have to pay Parsons in this next offseason. Besides, he will hold out. Jerry will pay him. Just get it over with. If the Cowboys let him play out his 5th year option, then they don't intend to keep him.

Hey I’m glad you have confidence in them figuring the deal out. I just don’t. It takes two to tango. I just don’t have it.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Even as a kid I remember thinking Danny White throws too many interceptions but I was blown away when I looked it up! 15 picks in 10 starts!?!?! I know the game was different back then... but damn!!

I remember one specific playoff game ( can't remember which one) where he changed a play and you could see Landry from the sideline before the snap screaming " No Danny". The play resulted in an interception.....lol

 

[RonnieT24]

I'm telling you now. They absolutely have to pay Parsons in this next offseason. Besides, he will hold out. Jerry will pay him. Just get it over with. If the Cowboys let him play out his 5th year option, then they don't intend to keep him.

Parsons aint goin nowhere.. That discussion has less weight than the Dak or CeeDee discussions. The Cowboys aint about to let one of the best defensive players in all of football out of the building. Nothing about Jerry's track record even hints at that being possibility.

 

[RonnieT24]

I remember one specific playoff game ( can't remember which one) where he changed a play and you could see Landry from the sideline before the snap screaming " No Danny". The play resulted in an interception.....lol

That was the NFC Championship game in '82 (actually January of '83) against the Ratscums..

 

[TWOK11]

There aren’t two sides. There are Cowboys fans, and then there are people who hate Dak Prescott. Cowboys fans can certainly disagree on how good Dak is, but they always want him to succeed because they are first and foremost fans of the team. Those who hate Dak want to see us lose and want Dak to fail because they want to be right.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There aren’t two sides. There are Cowboys fans, and then there are people who hate Dak Prescott. Cowboys fans can certainly disagree on how good Dak is, but they always want him to succeed because they are first and foremost fans of the team. Those who hate Dak want to see us lose and want Dak to fail because they want to be right.

 

[TWOK11]

Case study is Mountaineer, dude disappears for two days after every win and his posting volume is cut in half the weeks after we’ve won. When we lose, he’s posting 50+ times per day almost exclusively about Dak.

 

[RonnieT24]

Danny inherited an old team. Dak inherited a young team that went 13-3 with him as a fill in when Romo went down. That team was loaded just like last year, and Dak couldn't get passed GB both years despite 1 and 2 seeds.

White did more with less than Dak has done so far, and this can't be refuted until Dak actually does something in the playoffs beyond bad games.

No he got carried.. I mentioned his three 3 INT games.. The Cowboys actually WON one of those.. He also had a 2 INT game that the Cowboys also won. Imagine being able to go 2-2 in games with 2 ore more INTs. Dak has had two 2 INT games.. The Cowboys lost both. They are 1-1 in games in which he threw no picks and 1-2 in games with 1 pick. If anything Danny White held those teams back.. He could not be trusted not to turn it over. In addition to his 15 picks in his 10 starts he also had 6 lost fumbles. That's 21 turnovers in 10 playoff starts. Dak has 7 turnovers in his 7 starts.. He did have 1 fumble but recovered it himself.

I say again.. that "aging" team carried Danny White and made up for his screwups more so than he was the reason for the wins. None of this is to say he "sucked" or anything so puerile. He was a good QB... but he was not great. Neither is Dak to this point.. but Dak has a few years to change his classification. He may not do it, but the opportunity is there.

Did I mention that Danny White was elevated to start after sitting and learning for 4 years? And got to play for one of the greatest football minds of all time.. meanwhile Dak got to play for Jason Garrett for HIS first 4 years and had Kellen Moore as his OC for 4 years. Frankly it's a minor miracle we won as many games as he did with that mess.

 

[DallasEast]

LOL. Was there ever a thread like this for Romo? I don’t recall it. The guy was pounded into oblivion until he retired.

A thread may have popped up at some point in the past but I do not remember one.

 

[Typhus]

Many would have been content to move on if we had a promising young QB we were developing behind Dak that had gotten a few opportunities due to injuries and showed promise. Many fans here wanted to move on from Dak then start looking for his replacement, which would’ve been stupid. We would have been stuck with a journeyman QB in 2025.

What you speak of is true, but there is always a proactive choice when drafting, and seeking a future starting QB.
No easy task for sure, but this team should have had better prospects than Lance already, 2 years ago at the latest.

 

[acr731]

LOL. Was there ever a thread like this for Romo? I don’t recall it. The guy was pounded into oblivion until he retired.

Dak is a decent QB in the regular season. Top 12. He can play top 5 sometimes, but mostly hangs between 8-12. In the playoffs, that stays the same, and that’s typically what’s not good enough because the competition level rises. There’s no more weak teams to pad the stats. He’s not a QB that can go toe-to-toe with more mid-range accurate passers. He’ll need a strong D every game in the playoffs to have a chance and not turn it over for most likely three straight games just to get to a SB and that’s still questionable concerning his recent history.

Bold: He was. And do you want to know who was leading the charge in the daily pounding? One of Dak's biggest defenders, someone who goes into a rage whenever anyone picks on Dak. It's funny how a few of the current stans who are constantly complaining about haters and the such were the top complainers of everything Romo, but somehow now it's bad to complain about Dak even though they are essentially the same QB - capable of putting up stats in the regular season, but sucked butt in the playoffs.

 

[Flamma]

Hey I’m glad you have confidence in them figuring the deal out. I just don’t. It takes two to tango. I just don’t have it.

This one is too easy. Parsons just won't play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This one is too easy. Parsons just won't play.

I seem to remember you having this same confidence in Dak deal too.

 

[Flamma]

I seem to remember you having this same confidence in Dak deal too.

I voted yes to whether or not Dak would be paid before the season started. I'm not even predicting Parsons is getting paid, I'm saying he'll hold out. This isn't even debatable. All I am saying is Parsons will not be playing on his 5th year option without an extension.