It's really time for both Dak sides to stop and move on

[805BoysInBlue]

We all know what's coming. Some people just refuse to see it.

So you won't be watching this season?

 

[KJJ]

What you speak of is true, but there is always a proactive choice when drafting, and seeking a future starting QB.
No easy task for sure, but this team should have had better prospects than Lance already, 2 years ago at the latest.

They obviously didn’t see a QB worth drafting the past few years with a higher pick. They used a 5th round pick on Mike White and a 7th rounder on DiNucci. There isn’t a QB the last several years that I can think of other than Jalen Hurts that was drafted after the first round that’s amounted to anything.

 

[JW82]

It's really time for both sides to stop and move on. Dak's deal is done, like it or not. Stop poking each other with sticks in every thread, for God's sake.

True. Is what it is. He'll have 4 seasons to get it done. After Jerry hires the next coach after this lame duck coach year because he's too cheap to waste a years pay.

 

[Diehardblues]

Danny White was gifted a team that had gone to the Super Bowl 2 of the last 3 years before he was handed the reigns including 11-5 the year before he took over. Dak was given a team that had only made the playoffs once in the last 6 years before he was handed the reigns including 4-12 the year before he took over. Their situations could not have been more different.

Danny threw 15 INTs in 10 playoff starts including 3 in a game three times! Yikes! Dak has never thrown three picks in any of his 7 playoff starts. Suffice it to say Danny was the starting QB in those game but more often than not he was not the reason the team won. With the exception of that amazing comeback against the Falcons, he was pretty much carried by the rest of the team. And even as good as that team was he only went 5-5.

Even as a kid I remember thinking Danny White throws too many interceptions but I was blown away when I looked it up! 15 picks in 10 starts!?!?! I know the game was different back then... but damn!!

While Danny had taken over a team that went to SB last 2 out of 3 years it was a team in decline from 70’s Dynasty.

While Danny led us to 3 straight conference championship games only in 1981 versus SF did we have a legit shot to win it and should have .

And 2016 was expected to be an extension of 2014 which was arguably Romo’s best or most effective season. That team was expected to be a contender for years to come. Dak deserves credit for effectively taking over the reins.

The 4-12 record in 2015 was a reflection of Romo’s injury not a team in decline . There were other contributing factors like releasing Murray and going with a RB by committee and Dez hold out and injury.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I voted yes to whether or not Dak would be paid before the season started. I'm not even predicting Parsons is getting paid, I'm saying he'll hold out. This isn't even debatable. All I am saying is Parsons will not be playing on his 5th year option without an extension.

You think he’s holding out next year getting 21 million?

 

[Diehardblues]

True. Is what it is. He'll have 4 seasons to get it done. After Jerry hires the next coach after this lame duck coach year because he's too cheap to waste a years pay.

Most likely we’ll have another 11 or 12 win season and regardless the playoff results MCCarthy will return possibly in only a 1 year extension.

We will have to miss the playoffs for him not to resigned.

 

[Diehardblues]

They obviously didn’t see a QB worth drafting the past few years with a higher pick. They used a 5th round pick on Mike White and a 7th rounder on DiNucci. There isn’t a QB the last several years that I can think of other than Jalen Hurts that was drafted after the first round that’s amounted to anything.

This is where we should be more proactive in drafting a potential heir apparent. It doesn’t have to be in first round . There will be some in 2nd round as well.

 

[Diehardblues]

Case study is Mountaineer, dude disappears for two days after every win and his posting volume is cut in half the weeks after we’ve won. When we lose, he’s posting 50+ times per day almost exclusively about Dak.

He’s an admitted Egirls fan from West Virginia. Many of these detractors and trolls are posing as Cowboy fans.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

It's really time for both sides to stop and move on. Dak's deal is done, like it or not. Stop poking each other with sticks in every thread, for God's sake.

I'm Boyzmamacita and I approve of this message.

 

[Diehardblues]

There aren’t two sides. There are Cowboys fans, and then there are people who hate Dak Prescott. Cowboys fans can certainly disagree on how good Dak is, but they always want him to succeed because they are first and foremost fans of the team. Those who hate Dak want to see us lose and want Dak to fail because they want to be right.

We had the same issues with Romo. They get too wrapped up in their vitriol for our QB .

And there are some that have deeper agendas than just being right. They hate him for who he is and what he represents not fitting the mold we have had in QB’s . Prejudice. Unfortunately it’s still out there. I see it upclose in person with fans I know.

 

[starman22]

Only 2 guarantees on this board:

1: Dak lovers will unite when he excels, and the haters will jump at his first INT
2. I consider myself one of the very few fans of this team who can be objective. When you are a fan of the Dallas Cowboys and Cincinnati Reds you have no choice but to be objective. We calm ourselves by expecting the worst, it makes the blows so much easier to deal with

I feel for you, my other is the Pittsburgh Pirates.

 

[KJJ]

This is where we should be more proactive in drafting a potential heir apparent. It doesn’t have to be in first round . There will be some in 2nd round as well.

We need to use a higher pick on a QB to prepare ourselves for life after Dak but once you get past the top 10 of the draft it becomes an even bigger crapshoot drafting a QB. Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts are the only QBs that were drafted after the top 10 in the last number of years that’s become franchise QBs. Some will argue that Hurts isn’t that great. Jordan Love has a chance to become a franchise QB but the jury is still out.

 

[KJJ]

This is where we should be more proactive in drafting a potential heir apparent. It doesn’t have to be in first round . There will be some in 2nd round as well.

I forgot to mention Dak a 4th round pick becoming a franchise QB. Drafting a QB that late in the draft that becomes a franchise QB is pretty much a miracle these days. I think most teams that draft a QB after the second round are just hoping for a solid backup. Prior to Dak you would have to go back to Russell Wilson who was drafted in the third round who became a franchise QB.

 

[sbark]

They obviously didn’t see a QB worth drafting the past few years with a higher pick. They used a 5th round pick on Mike White and a 7th rounder on DiNucci. There isn’t a QB the last several years that I can think of other than Jalen Hurts that was drafted after the first round that’s amounted to anything.

Seems they shouldve taken Purdy in the 6th

Or snagged Baker Mayfield

 

[Diehardblues]

We need to use a higher pick on a QB to prepare ourselves for life after Dak but once you get past the top 10 of the draft it becomes an even bigger crapshoot drafting a QB. Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts are the only QBs that were drafted after the top 10 in the last number of years that’s become franchise QBs. Some will argue that Hurts isn’t that great. Jordan Love has a chance to become a franchise QB but the jury is still out.

Jimmy G , Derek Carr , Geno Smifh, Colin Kapernick , Andy Dalton all drafted in 2nd round.

Russell Wilson 3rd round , Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott 4th round, Brock Purdy 7th round .

That’s just off the top of my head. There might be more.

 

[blueblood70]

What you speak of is true, but there is always a proactive choice when drafting, and seeking a future starting QB.
No easy task for sure, but this team should have had better prospects than Lance already, 2 years ago at the latest.

Show me all these genius teams that have done this and I'll tell you you're going to find very few..

I mean who was the Plan B just this year for Miami and for Green Bay I mean isn't that on the forefront right now they're both their quarterbacks went down what was their plan B?

I mean where's their backup plan where is all these damn starting quarterbacks in the NFL after say the 16th or 17th team the rest of are still looking for starters where are these starter level backups that you think are just floating around out there that you can go shopping for and just plug them in on your team and leave him there for four or five years because that's exactly what would have to happen when you just signed a guy for four years you're supposed to go sign another guy that's ready that doesn't happen often.. Maybe on one hand you can count over the last say 20 years show me all these qualities starting backups that teams have planted on their team and cultivate them to be started 'cause I see a league that probably has 10 teams that wish they had different starters and you want us to have a backup behind our franchise quarterback who's gonna be here another 4-5 years..

And just for kickers I'm gonna keep saying this that stat 95 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2016 and only one of them has won a Super Bowl sure there's some that have some success with their teams but give me a break I've seen some number one overall picks the bust and you want us to pick backups behi.... most teams can't even find a starter?

Look I realize he's a high risk maybe he's not gonna workout but they did that with Trey Lance using a fourth round pick people are complaining about it but you don't know in two years maybe he will be ready...

So I'd like to see this fairy tale full of all these great backups you could just pluck from the draft and just sit on the bench and then they turn out to be good and I know what you're gonna say but at least try no we have a quarterback that's never lost a game he's not that injury prone as most quarterbacks can say so he's here more than he's not we've been in the playoffs 5 in the last eight years with our current quarterback but I would like to see this pool of great quarterbacks that you think we can sit on the bench and cultivate for the future....

Because what I've seen is players like the Cleveland Browns and Denver Broncos The Jets and many other teams and couldn't find any in the draft and what do they do go do something really stupid and go get a guy like Prescott but use a bunch of draft picks and pay them a bunch of money because again they can't find ones in the draft for decades.. I mean why else do you think Daniel Jones gets a contract because the New York Giants don't believe that in a reasonable amount of time they were gonna find a better quarterback you gotta try to develop them that everyone saying Bryce young is a bust he might be but you might wanna try to put some work into him but that only proves there's a bunch of starters out there that are not very good and you're supposed to find a really good backup?

 

[Diehardblues]

I forgot to mention Dak a 4th round pick becoming a franchise QB. Drafting a QB that late in the draft that becomes a franchise QB is pretty much a miracle these days. I think most teams that draft a QB after the second round are just hoping for a solid backup.

I wouldn’t say a miracle . There’s numerous starting QB’s drafted after 1st round . Obviously 1st round is best place to go but there have been several starters come from lower rounds as I listed above . I’m sure there’s more. That’s just from recent era.

 

[KJJ]

Jimmy G , Derek Carr , Geno Smifh, Colin Kapernick , Andy Dalton all drafted in 2nd round.

Russell Wilson 3rd round , Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott 4th round, Brock Purdy 7th round .

That’s just off the top of my head. There might be more.

Jimmy G never became a franchise QB. He was good, but New England moved on from him and San Francisco was never sold on him. He ended up getting paid big bucks, but it was a mistake. Derek Carr was pretty good for the Raiders, but was too up and down. They ended up paying him big, but he never panned out into what they were hoping for which is why they moved on from him. It could be argued that Kirk Cousins has never become a franchise QB. He wasn’t good enough for Washington to extend him. He’s been solid, but he’s a journeyman. Geno Smith never became a franchise QB.

He’s been pretty good with Seattle, but he’s basically a stopgap. Kap had a great start to his career, but flamed out quick and never became a legit franchise QB. Purdy has been real good, but we still need to see a little more before calling him a franchise QB. Andy Dalton was good, but was never a franchise QB. Joe Burrow is a franchise QB, not Andy Dalton. I’m talking about QBs like Russell Wilson and Dak, who were drafted later in the draft who became real good for a long period of time and won at least some playoff games.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jimmy G never became a franchise QB. He was good, but New England moved on from him and San Francisco was never sold on him. He ended up getting paid big bucks, but it was a mistake. Derek Carr was pretty good for the Raiders, but was too up and down. They ended up paying him big, but he never panned out into what they were hoping for which is why they moved on from him. It could be argued that Kirk Cousins has never become a franchise QB. He wasn’t good enough for Washington to extend him. He’s been solid, but he’s a journeyman. Geno Smith never became a franchise QB. He’s been pretty good with Seattle, but he’s basically a stopgap. Kap had a great start to his career, but flamed out quick and never became a legit franchise QB. Purdy has been real good, but we still need to see a little more before calling him a franchise QB. Andy Dalton was good, but was never a franchise QB. Joe Burrow is a franchise QB, not Andy Dalton.

The fact Jimmy G received a franchise deal in effect qualifies as becoming Franchise QB. Dalton started for Bengals almost 10 years taking them to about 7 playoff appearances.

And I’d add none of these Franchise QB’s were Elite but it still refutes your statement that there isn’t or haven’t been any Franchise or starting QB’s besides Hurts drafted in 2nd round.

And like I said, there could be more. Those are just ones I know.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

While Danny had taken over a team that went to SB last 2 out of 3 years it was a team in decline from 70’s Dynasty.

While Danny led us to 3 straight conference championship games only in 1981 versus SF did we have a legit shot to win it and should have .

And 2016 was expected to be an extension of 2014 which was arguably Romo’s best or most effective season. That team was expected to be a contender for years to come. Dak deserves credit for effectively taking over the reins.

The 4-12 record in 2015 was a reflection of Romo’s injury not a team in decline . There were other contributing factors like releasing Murray and going with a RB by committee and Dez hold out and injury.

One man even if it’s the quarterback shouldn’t have you go from 13 to 4 wins. That tells me they were a bad team and shows where the coaching was at.