Jalen Brooks has been very impressive so far

[Reid1boys]

IM expecting big things from Gallup this year. he might not have 70 catches... but hes gonna play big at times this year.

 

[Havic]

I think its between him amd Simi.

Simi has the size and speed, but Brooks seems to be a more natural athlete and WR. And he excelled at ST in college.

Theres always the chance for a dark horse though. Consistency will be key. Can the guys who shine once or twice keep it up? Do they shine in PS games?

I know Croppers name has flashed. Don't see a role for him. Small speed guy. We have that in Turpin. And Cooks.

Durdin is kind of a surprise. Nothing about him has come out. But again, what we see in terms of clips and "reporting" is biased. Pet cats getting coverage.

Same goes for Hunter. Literally in the same clip where the "reporter" says Duece is breaking all these tackles (while its thud on ball carriers), Hunter walks in for a TD - literally untouched. Yet not a peep.

Cant wait for PS games where we can watch for ourselves and not rely on cherry picked, biased clips.

Camp and games can tell two different stories for sure. I think simi has had ample time here to prove himself and just can’t get it done. Time to move on from him imo

 

[Risen Star]

IM expecting big things from Gallup this year. he might not have 70 catches... but hes gonna play big at times this year.

He's our Alvin Harper.

And Ceedee is our Playmaker. Cooks is our Kelvin Martin.

Pollard is our Emmitt.

And Dak is our

Well, we were rolling there for awhile.

 

[Havic]

He's our Alvin Harper.

And Ceedee is our Playmaker. Cooks is our Kelvin Martin.

Pollard is our Emmitt.

And Dak is our

Well, we were rolling there for awhile.

Jason Garrett

 

[BlindFaith]

That are counting out height challenged players and no Vaughn will not make it to the practice squad again Mr. hater-faith

he will make the team and he will contribute during the regular season how much

so I don't know but he will make the team guaranteed not on the practice squad(lead pipe lock)

Because someone will take that dude off the PS and turn him into a weapon...

Kellen Moore's not here to mess that up this year he will be used probably six or seven times a game depending on the opponent

yes deuce Vaughn will be used in a running back rotation and out of the backfield as a pass catcher because that's what he did in college, and he will do it again in the NFL... no one's counting on him to be the number one running back it'll be Pollard and a couple of dudes will be rotating in and out and deuce Vaughn will be one of those.

Let me take a few steps back and clarify my stance on Duece.

Im not a hater. He seems like a great kid. He's worked hard. He had a good college career. Hes tough. Classic under dog story.

My evaluation of Duece is two fold. Does he translate to the NFL and if so, where does he fit?

My obvious take is that he doesn't translate to yhe NFL. Many think he does. Im not rehashing that debate.

So lets focus on your assumption that he does translate. So where does he fit in on this roster?

Im going to over simplify here, but bare with me.

22 starters. 22 backups to those starters. 3 ST only guys. (Kicker, Punter and LS) Thats 47 of your 53 man roster right there. Leaves 6 open spots.

Backups are potential replacements for starters. Younger, cheaper. Guys you're grooming.

Do you see Duece as a fulltime starter, ever, at this level? Even the most staunch supporters of his would most likely say no. If you think he can be, read no further.

Lets now focus on those last 6 spots. We know we keep more than 2 WR and 2 TE. Which is what my first determination was based on. Traditionally we've kept 5 WR with Turpin as the 6th and returner. And we've kept 4 TEs. I'll address TE next, but lets go with 6WR and 3TE for now. So thats an additional 5 spots. Now we do go short on the oline by 1, so lets call it 4 spots. So that leaves 2 remaining. Now if you think Duece replaces Turpin, read no further.

So if you're still reading, we have two spots open at this point.

On defense we go long at DT, Corner and short at LB. Original Defensive numbers for starters were based on 2 DT, 3 LB and 2 corners. If we count Micah as a LB and assume Fowler sticks, that means if we go five LBs that frees up a spot for the 5th DT. But we are still short 1 corner, if we go 5 deep. So that takes away 1 of the remaing 2 spots we had left.

So those that have hung in there to this point, we now have 1 spot available.

This is assuming we have the following:
1. 3 TEs
2. 2 RBs
3. CJ Goodwin as the 5th CB
4. Fowler as the 4th DE
5. Really only 4 LBs as Parsons plays far more DE than LB
6. 9 OL
7. 5 DT

Those are the positions you can play with. Go 8 OL to free up a spot? Cut Goodwin to free one up? Cut Fowler?

Lets assume they don't do that and we still just have 1 spot. Sell me why Duece should get it...

More valuable than a 4th TE? We kept 4 last year. And if we do only keep 3, doesn't it make more sense to keep a guy like Hunter who could possibly play some TE in a pinch?

As a third RB who offers no special teams value, no potential as a true backup. No return ability.

Is he more valuable than a 6th corner? We saw what happened last year being short there.

More valuable than a 6th DT?

I understand he has his fans. But it comes down to actual roster management when it comes to predicting who makes it or not. These iron clad guarantees that he makes this roster are just not based on the real life decisions this team needs to make.

Ive provided my assertions. Based on logic. If you simply want to believe hes a roster lock because he had a good college career, well you probably stopped reading long ago or didn't read this at all.

For those that did, I hope you appreciate the fact that I in no way hate this kid. And if he makes this team I will chear him on the same way I do all players on the team.

 

[erod]

Yes, the WR group is much better!

I'd take a chance on a young developmental player like Moreno-Cropper over Turpin. Turpin has zero chance of ever cracking the top 3, so better to take a flyer on a player that does.

Moreno and Cropper have less than zero chance. Turpin is a very dangerous returner, so he's infinitely more valuable already.

 

[BlindFaith]

Moreno and Cropper have less than zero chance. Turpin is a very dangerous returner, so he's infinitely more valuable already.

Moreno and Cropper are the same guy, for those following along.

But totally on board with the Turpin praise.

 

[Pass2Run]

If Brooks can make it through preseason with out getting hurt, I think he makes the team based on what I have seen and heard so far.

Any more noise from Cropper lately?

I want to see him as a returner..

 

[rambo2]

Any more noise from Cropper lately?

I want to see him as a returner..

The noise is Turpin. It looks like he is going to make it. I think that Crooper will make practice squad. It looks like they are really deep at receiver.

 

[speedkilz88]

 

[ghst187]

is it?

Proven talent yes

 

[rambo2]

Let me take a few steps back and clarify my stance on Duece.

Im not a hater. He seems like a great kid. He's worked hard. He had a good college career. Hes tough. Classic under dog story.

My evaluation of Duece is two fold. Does he translate to the NFL and if so, where does he fit?

My obvious take is that he doesn't translate to yhe NFL. Many think he does. Im not rehashing that debate.

So lets focus on your assumption that he does translate. So where does he fit in on this roster?

Im going to over simplify here, but bare with me.

22 starters. 22 backups to those starters. 3 ST only guys. (Kicker, Punter and LS) Thats 47 of your 53 man roster right there. Leaves 6 open spots.

Backups are potential replacements for starters. Younger, cheaper. Guys you're grooming.

Do you see Duece as a fulltime starter, ever, at this level? Even the most staunch supporters of his would most likely say no. If you think he can be, read no further.

Lets now focus on those last 6 spots. We know we keep more than 2 WR and 2 TE. Which is what my first determination was based on. Traditionally we've kept 5 WR with Turpin as the 6th and returner. And we've kept 4 TEs. I'll address TE next, but lets go with 6WR and 3TE for now. So thats an additional 5 spots. Now we do go short on the oline by 1, so lets call it 4 spots. So that leaves 2 remaining. Now if you think Duece replaces Turpin, read no further.

So if you're still reading, we have two spots open at this point.

On defense we go long at DT, Corner and short at LB. Original Defensive numbers for starters were based on 2 DT, 3 LB and 2 corners. If we count Micah as a LB and assume Fowler sticks, that means if we go five LBs that frees up a spot for the 5th DT. But we are still short 1 corner, if we go 5 deep. So that takes away 1 of the remaing 2 spots we had left.

So those that have hung in there to this point, we now have 1 spot available.

This is assuming we have the following:
1. 3 TEs
2. 2 RBs
3. CJ Goodwin as the 5th CB
4. Fowler as the 4th DE
5. Really only 4 LBs as Parsons plays far more DE than LB
6. 9 OL
7. 5 DT

Those are the positions you can play with. Go 8 OL to free up a spot? Cut Goodwin to free one up? Cut Fowler?

Lets assume they don't do that and we still just have 1 spot. Sell me why Duece should get it...

More valuable than a 4th TE? We kept 4 last year. And if we do only keep 3, doesn't it make more sense to keep a guy like Hunter who could possibly play some TE in a pinch?

As a third RB who offers no special teams value, no potential as a true backup. No return ability.

Is he more valuable than a 6th corner? We saw what happened last year being short there.

More valuable than a 6th DT?

I understand he has his fans. But it comes down to actual roster management when it comes to predicting who makes it or not. These iron clad guarantees that he makes this roster are just not based on the real life decisions this team needs to make.

Ive provided my assertions. Based on logic. If you simply want to believe hes a roster lock because he had a good college career, well you probably stopped reading long ago or didn't read this at all.

For those that did, I hope you appreciate the fact that I in no way hate this kid. And if he makes this team I will chear him on the same way I do all players on the team.

It is obvious that Duece will make the team with the reps he is getting so far.

 

[erod]

Let me take a few steps back and clarify my stance on Duece.

Im not a hater. He seems like a great kid. He's worked hard. He had a good college career. Hes tough. Classic under dog story.

My evaluation of Duece is two fold. Does he translate to the NFL and if so, where does he fit?

My obvious take is that he doesn't translate to yhe NFL. Many think he does. Im not rehashing that debate.

So lets focus on your assumption that he does translate. So where does he fit in on this roster?

Im going to over simplify here, but bare with me.

22 starters. 22 backups to those starters. 3 ST only guys. (Kicker, Punter and LS) Thats 47 of your 53 man roster right there. Leaves 6 open spots.

Backups are potential replacements for starters. Younger, cheaper. Guys you're grooming.

Do you see Duece as a fulltime starter, ever, at this level? Even the most staunch supporters of his would most likely say no. If you think he can be, read no further.

Lets now focus on those last 6 spots. We know we keep more than 2 WR and 2 TE. Which is what my first determination was based on. Traditionally we've kept 5 WR with Turpin as the 6th and returner. And we've kept 4 TEs. I'll address TE next, but lets go with 6WR and 3TE for now. So thats an additional 5 spots. Now we do go short on the oline by 1, so lets call it 4 spots. So that leaves 2 remaining. Now if you think Duece replaces Turpin, read no further.

So if you're still reading, we have two spots open at this point.

On defense we go long at DT, Corner and short at LB. Original Defensive numbers for starters were based on 2 DT, 3 LB and 2 corners. If we count Micah as a LB and assume Fowler sticks, that means if we go five LBs that frees up a spot for the 5th DT. But we are still short 1 corner, if we go 5 deep. So that takes away 1 of the remaing 2 spots we had left.

So those that have hung in there to this point, we now have 1 spot available.

This is assuming we have the following:
1. 3 TEs
2. 2 RBs
3. CJ Goodwin as the 5th CB
4. Fowler as the 4th DE
5. Really only 4 LBs as Parsons plays far more DE than LB
6. 9 OL
7. 5 DT

Those are the positions you can play with. Go 8 OL to free up a spot? Cut Goodwin to free one up? Cut Fowler?

Lets assume they don't do that and we still just have 1 spot. Sell me why Duece should get it...

More valuable than a 4th TE? We kept 4 last year. And if we do only keep 3, doesn't it make more sense to keep a guy like Hunter who could possibly play some TE in a pinch?

As a third RB who offers no special teams value, no potential as a true backup. No return ability.

Is he more valuable than a 6th corner? We saw what happened last year being short there.

More valuable than a 6th DT?

I understand he has his fans. But it comes down to actual roster management when it comes to predicting who makes it or not. These iron clad guarantees that he makes this roster are just not based on the real life decisions this team needs to make.

Ive provided my assertions. Based on logic. If you simply want to believe hes a roster lock because he had a good college career, well you probably stopped reading long ago or didn't read this at all.

For those that did, I hope you appreciate the fact that I in no way hate this kid. And if he makes this team I will chear him on the same way I do all players on the team.

Let's begin by pointing out that your "evaluation" doesn't mean anything in the least to them. They love him.

Deuce dominated TCU, Texas, and Alabama. He can do the kinds of things that Darren Sproles did.

He's 95% going to make this team.

 

[Ring6]

He has been very impressive so far. The receiver position is much stronger this season.
1. Lamb
2. Cooks
3. Gallup
4. Tolbert
5. Turpin
6. Brooks

looking forward to see him vs Jacksonville in about a week. A WEEK! YESSSSSS!!

 

[BlindFaith]

It is obvious that Duece will make the team with the reps he is getting so far.

Seriously? Thats your response? What reps and how many exactly? And these are thud practices. No one is even hitting him yet. Unbelievable.

Wait till PS games start and every defense we play will be looking for a high lite hit on him.

 

[BlindFaith]

Let's begin by pointing out that your "evaluation" doesn't mean anything in the least to them. They love him.

Deuce dominated TCU, Texas, and Alabama. He can do the kinds of things that Darren Sproles did.

He's 95% going to make this team.

Great feedback. Guess you stopped reading early on.

 

[SlimBig]

Was he injured at the combine?
He ran a 4.69 there but improved to a 4.53 at his pro day?

"Explosive" is an interesting adjective to use.

 

[erod]

Great feedback. Guess you stopped reading early on.

Says the guy who wrote a novel about Duece in a thread about a Jalen Brooks.

 

[BlindFaith]

Says the guy who wrote a novel about Duece in a thread about a Jalen Brooks.

Didn't read the rest of the thread either. I was responding to a post that referenced Duece and me being a hater.

A novel. That was the cliffsnotes version.

 

[rambo2]

Seriously? Thats your response? What reps and how many exactly? And these are thud practices. No one is even hitting him yet. Unbelievable.

Wait till PS games start and every defense we play will be looking for a high lite hit on him.

Lol, be sure and watch.