Jason Garrett must go if this team wants a SB

[Irvin88_4life]

Ok, heres my take, than you tell me if you agree or disagree. The reason i would be ok with firing Garrett is because everyone is right, its a young (gotta lose rookie now) Qb and RB. and we ll have rookie pieces coming in. This is a great time for a young new coach to come in, build up his staff, build up his culture and take the reigns for a while. We have the making a good young core. I personally think to give Garrett one or two more years can be a waste of time that we will never get back with this core.

Does that make sense?

No that doesn't make sense. It would be foolish to restart when the roster is almost rebuilt. Change Linehan sure but you want Dak to end up like Kapernick changing coaches after the year Garrett had. You don't fire a coach of the year candidate because we lost in the playoffs with a rookie QB

 

[ShiningStar]

No that doesn't make sense. It would be foolish to restart when the roster is almost rebuilt. Change Linehan sure but you want Dak to end up like Kapernick changing coaches after the year Garrett had. You don't fire a coach of the year candidate because we lost in the playoffs with a rookie QB

ok, than let me ask this, how much time would you give him and what would you consider successes? Lets say we give Garrett another 3 years, and he goes 8-8, 8-8 and 12-4 and runs up agianst the than SB winner. what do you propose will be successful?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

ok, than let me ask this, how much time would you give him and what would you consider successes? Lets say we give Garrett another 3 years, and he goes 8-8, 8-8 and 12-4 and runs up agianst the than SB winner. what do you propose will be successful?

What if Garrett gets the defense upgraded and wins the superbowl next year would you still want to start over from scratch and push 21 year drought out longer

 

[Sydla]

He may get some action, but we're not talking about woman.

Garrett lost his starting QB the week before the regular season and beat every team except the Giants, including two teams in their house that both might be in the SB.

You honestly believe he won't get it?

When do they vote?

If Quinn makes the SB or even wins it, it's going to be closer than you think if they vote after the SB.

 

[ShiningStar]

What if Garrett gets the defense upgraded and wins the superbowl next year would you still want to start over from scratch and push 21 year drought out longer

ill hedge the bet thats not happen. How many time did the fans think that, including this year?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

ill hedge the bet thats not happen. How many time did the fans think that, including this year?

I bet they won't be 8-8 either. See how speculating works

 

[MileyDancer]

I bet they won't be 8-8 either. See how speculating works

Yep. They'll be 9-7 and barely miss the playoffs. We aren't capable of making the playoffs 2 years in a row. When was the last time that happened?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Yep. They'll be 9-7 and barely miss the playoffs. We aren't capable of making the playoffs 2 years in a row. When was the last time that happened?

I'm willing to bet they do make the playoffs as top 3 seed

 

[ShiningStar]

I bet they won't be 8-8 either. See how speculating works

heres what we know as fact, multiple 8-8 seasons, 2 1 and dones and 1 playoff victory. thats fact. Do you want to roll with that while wasting precious time or do you want to change now in the hopes we build on something new that will have different results?

 

[KJJ]

Garrett isn't the one running the defense and until we get better defensively we're not going to get past the divisional round of the playoffs. Changing DC's hasn't done any good, we need better players. The Cowboys have lost in the divisional round of the playoffs the last 5 times dating back to 96 and most of those losses were due to defensive issues.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

heres what we know as fact, multiple 8-8 seasons, 2 1 and dones and 1 playoff victory. thats fact. Do you want to roll with that while wasting precious time or do you want to change now in the hopes we build on something new that will have different results?

That's with a different team though. Garrett has rebuilt it and a few more pieces and they are favorite. Why break up something on the verge of greatness.....Stephen A is right and Dallas being allergic to prosperity cause you guys want Romo over Dak and Garrett fired and all kinds of foolish things

 

[Diogenes]

Garrett isn't the one running the defense and until we get better defensively we're not going to get past the divisional round of the playoffs. Changing DC's hasn't done any good, we need better players. The Cowboys have lost in the divisional round of the playoffs the last 5 times dating back to 96 and most of those losses were due to defensive issues.

Yeah, that's been the common theme. I'm not a big JG fan and he does plenty of things that warrant criticism but at the same time he's not at the top of the list of problems. It's the defense and it's not particularly close.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah, that's been the common theme. I'm not a big JG fan and he does plenty of things that warrant criticism but at the same time he's not at the top of the list of problems. It's the defense and it's not particularly close.

I'm not Garrett supporter he gets on my nerves but we did win 13 games with a rookie QB so he has to get some credit for that. I didn't like the way he mailed in the season finale, it hurt our momentum and probably contributed to our slow start on Sunday. With a bye week coming he should have played our starters a half and Romo a quarter to showcase him more, to try and lure a team to offer a decent draft pick for him.

 

[Vtwin]

Didn't read all 12 pages and don't know if it has been mentioned but..,

One thing you have to give Garrett credit for is that this team played their butts off trying to come back. They never gave up, even when many of the fans did.

 

[ShiningStar]

That's with a different team though. Garrett has rebuilt it and a few more pieces and they are favorite. Why break up something on the verge of greatness.....Stephen A is right and Dallas being allergic to prosperity cause you guys want Romo over Dak and Garrett fired and all kinds of foolish things

i get your ppint but i wanted dAk to play over Romo and i wanted Romo before many others.

In due time we ll see whos right, civilly. Nice chatting again.

 

[cowboyblue22]

the thing with the dallas cowboys now with garrett as the head coach is just not to get your expectations real high and watch it as entertainment your weeks will be much better lots more relaxed

 

[DandyDon1722]

Garrett gets credit for being 25-7 with a competent QB on the field in the last three years. It's the NFL - that's hard to do.

But we are getting dangerously close to Andy Reid territory, good teams, good records, can't win in the playoffs.

For me, the deciding factor would be the locker room and it sounds like the players would go to war for him. I agree with many that the defense has been a ten-year liability and that simply has to be fixed next year.

It's one thing to build a good culture - it's time for the culture to pay off.

 

[Sydla]

Garrett is the head coach. If the defense is failing, it's on him as well. You can't just pick and choose what you want Garrett to be responsible for to suit your argument. If the team, whether that be defense, offense or special teams fails, that's a reflection on him.

I suspect they will add to the defense this offseason. So there should be no more excuses going forward. It's Year 7 as the full time coach for him now. No more growing, learning, etc.

 

[Sydla]

Garrett gets credit for being 25-7 with a competent QB on the field in the last three years. It's the NFL - that's hard to do.

But we are getting dangerously close to Andy Reid territory, good teams, good records, can't win in the playoffs.

For me, the deciding factor would be the locker room and it sounds like the players would go to war for him. I agree with many that the defense has been a ten-year liability and that simply has to be fixed next year.

It's one thing to build a good culture - it's time for the culture to pay off.

Interesting that you mention Reid. When the debate started later in his Eagles years if they needed to make a change, the people who wanted to keep Reid always cited this.............. that players loved him and loved playing for him.

At some point though, playing hard for a guy, loving a guy is rather meaningless if the on the field results don't also come through.

 

[Asklesko]

It really doesn't matter, that former coach got them exactly where this new coach has them.

And this talk about Garrett has to go is pure emotion. Your comparison is bad and you should feel bad. Your point boiled down to this...

"Get rid of this guy and get this other guy and that will lead to success!"

How did this work out for Philly? Just because you THINK you can upgrade does not mean you will. Garrett has rebuilt this offensive line into one of the best units in all of football, and when it's all said and done, it could possibly be one of the greatest lines in NFL history. He's had two RBs in recent years rush for 1,600 yards or more, Romo had some of his best seasons once JG took over as HC, and under JG he has found what many of YOU GUYS are saying is "The next Tom Brady!"

Yet now, after all of that, we this emotional dribble stating "Get rid of him!". My biggest issue with these types of threads, it's just crying without any offer of a solution. So, I ask you guys, go ahead and throw out retread coaching names or some young gun from college or having some OK success with a team right now you believe can replace Garrett. Let's start there.

not emotion at all. look at jason garrett's performance all this year. oodles of penalties, terrible play calling and horrific clock management. that's what he brings to the table, and i want no more of it.