Jason Garrett must go if this team wants a SB

tyke1doe

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It's funny how the Jason Garrett debate mimics the Tony Romo debate.
Tony Romo is good enough to get us to the playoffs, but when it comes to the playoffs he needs either a strong running game or a stronger defense or both. In short, he can take this team only so far. He cannot push it over the top without help. It seems like he needs everything perfect before we as a franchise can take the next step.

Similarly, Jason Garrett is good enough to get this team to the playoffs. But he doesn't have a defense good enough to push us over the top. It seems like he needs everything perfect before we as a franchise can take the next step.

I don't know whether this is an argument for Romo and for Garrett or an argument against them.
 

Irvin88_4life

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i get your ppint but i wanted dAk to play over Romo and i wanted Romo before many others.

In due time we ll see whos right, civilly. Nice chatting again.
Always a pleasure and I get what you are saying. How many chances does Garrett get.....thing is you can't do it after this season though
 

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I've been a critic of Jason Garrett for a long time. His clock mismanagement, the weekly penalties that are like clockwork, the inexplicable habit of turning away from what works to the detriment of the team's success and the lack of playoff success...these things have pushed me to believe he needs to go.

This past game was the last straw. Zeke Elliot is the best player on offense and yet he only gets 23 touches. They come out looking completely unprepared on both sides of the ball. Multiple times in short yardage Zeke wasn't even on the field.

And the last series where the game was lost is solely on Jason Garrett. There is no defending it. A competent HC either wins the game there or leaves the Packers with so little time overtime is all but assured.

Jason Garrett has done all he can as the HC of this team. It will always end the same way with him. How many failed seasons does this guy get before he's held accountable? How many coordinators will they go through? How many QBs?

They need fresh blood on the sidelines. I know it won't happen but I feel it must for this team to get over the hump and win another Lombardi. Just MHO.



NO!!!!!! JUST FLAT OUT NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! QUIT WITH THE IDOT POSTS!!!!!
 

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It's funny how the Jason Garrett debate mimics the Tony Romo debate.
Tony Romo is good enough to get us to the playoffs, but when it comes to the playoffs he needs either a strong running game or a stronger defense or both. In short, he can take this team only so far. He cannot push it over the top without help. It seems like he needs everything perfect before we as a franchise can take the next step.

Similarly, Jason Garrett is good enough to get this team to the playoffs. But he doesn't have a defense good enough to push us over the top. It seems like he needs everything perfect before we as a franchise can take the next step.

I don't know whether this is an argument for Romo and for Garrett or an argument against them.
To me...it means Garrett offers us no advantage at the Head Coach position. Which is why I said Garrett will never be able to win 3 or 4 games in the postseason against the best of the best. He has yet to get past the divisional round. I still think EVERYTHING with him will be baby steps. The next step is he has to win a divisional playoff game. Who knows how long that will take. Then he will have to win a NFC championship game. Who know how long that will take. Then the Super Bowl. Jerry thinks he has given Jason a Super Bowl caliber team. And it is quite possible he has. But Garrett might need a top 5 - 10 offense, defense and special teams to put it all together. And if that is what he needs..what is he bringing to the table?
 

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To me...it means Garrett offers us no advantage at the Head Coach position. Which is why I said Garrett will never be able to win 3 or 4 games in the postseason against the best of the best. He has yet to get past the divisional round. I still think EVERYTHING with him will be baby steps. The next step is he has to win a divisional playoff game. Who knows how long that will take. Then he will have to win a NFC championship game. Who know how long that will take. Then the Super Bowl. Jerry thinks he has given Jason a Super Bowl caliber team. And it is quite possible he has. But Garrett might need a top 5 - 10 offense, defense and special teams to put it all together. And if that is what he needs..what is he bringing to the table?

even when he has those things, how many years will he need to learn how to win with them?
 

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We scored on 6 of 9 offensive drives. Should either the OC or JG really be our focus at this point?
Lets attack and criticize the strongest part of our team.

6 of 9 against a prettry average and very injured D, and 3 of the 6 were FGs. FGs tend to lose playoff games against elite QBs, particularly red zone FGs.

I'm not saying the offense lost the game, but the offense has to carry this team and they weren't quite good enough on Sunday.
 

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6 of 9 against a prettry average and very injured D, and 3 of the 6 were FGs. FGs tend to lose playoff games against elite QBs, particularly red zone FGs.

I'm not saying the offense lost the game, but the offense has to carry this team and they weren't quite good enough on Sunday.
Average defense or not 31 points means the offense did enough to not carry the blame for a loss.
You score 31 points in the playoffs and you win most of those games.
Don't forget that 1 drive ended because of a made up 12 man in the huddle call and the other was an Int.
The offense would have needed to score on 7 or 8 of 9 possessions to win that game.
 

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Ya let's fire a coach that takes a 4-12 team to 13-3 with rookies. Last year yall wanted to fire Garrett because he couldn't won games without Romo. He does it this year with rookies but that isn't good enough
 

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My question is who do you want to replace him? Saban? Urban Meyer? Belichick and Carroll aren't available. You want Chip Kelly?
I want Dak to stay in the same system. Too many times guys change up coaches and things fall apart.

Not only that what coach comes here knowing he will get fired for 13-3 season, number 1 seed and coach of the year potential
 

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Real quick just wanted to say first 6 years of Belichek and Garrett coaching career.......same playoff record
 

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We've built an offense that can get around his coaching fairly well.

Now that we've built a almost perfect offense now we need an almost perfect defense. That's how you win with a guy like this.
You are 100% correct which is truly sad and proof positive Garrett add ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to this team. He is just another one of the 500 guys Jerry talked about when he and Jimmy parted ways which was absolute lunacy on Jerry's part. Garrett is the epitome of a JAG coach.
 

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Garrett is about to win Coach of the Year, and this thread will look even more stupid than it already does.

He's also going to coach in the Pro Bowl! Any other worthless accolades we can list? I'm sure Billy B. up in New England is downright miffed he isn't being considered for coach of the year.
 

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And BTW, Dallas has been looking to fix that side of the ball for years and Garrett has always scape-goated the defense.

They blamed the defense during Wade's tenure, while Garrett's offense was declining in red-zone production year after year to bottom in the league, multiple TOs that they blamed Romo for, while Garrett was absolutely clueless on how to field a running game.

When they fired Rob Ryan, the excuse was the lack of TOs and not providing Garrett's offense with more chances. They actually drafted Mo Claiborne to shore up the defense and leveraged multiple picks. After that year, Jones probably had enough, particularly since Callahan came here and Romo's new contract came into play and he forced a change in doing things by having Romo in game-planning meetings. That year Garrett tried to sell it as an organizational decision, just like playcalling duties being stripped from him, but it was Garrett that didn't have Romo involved and it was Garrett that promoted his brother to passing game coordinator in one year from TE coach, while they tried to force the latter's pet project Kevin Ogletree into the offense.

They then switched from 3-4 to 4-3, because again, Garrett's scapegoat was the defense. Kiffin was an absolute disaster here so they went with Marinelli. Dallas actually targeted Sharif Floyd as their number 1 pick, meaning defense again. Marinelli said no, he doesn't fit the scheme. The next year they had three defensive players targeted before Martin, meaning again they targeted defense.

We've been a disaster the more control Garrett has yielded.
100% truth here!!!!
 

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21-3, THE team was not ready, again.
0 - 1 in the playoffs, you know when it REALLY counts!!!! The team was not ready when it REALLY counted. We were not out-talented, we were out-coached.
 

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This notion that the defense isn't good enough is nonsense and just another made up excuse.

The Packers defense is horrid and wracked with injury yet they're going to the NFCCG.

The Cowboys were the more talented team Sunday. The lost because they were unprepared and got punched in the mouth early.

1st seed and home field thrown away becaus of a lack of preparation and poor coaching at the end of he game. Inexcusable.
:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:
 

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I'm 100% behind Garrett and I think this franchise has a better chance with him than without him. He not only coaches this team he knows how to deal with Jerry. Most of us knew the defense was an issue and while they played well they were still under manned along the DL.
 
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