Jason Garrett must go if this team wants a SB

[Sydla]

If Rodgers fumbles that ball on the Heath blindside hit and we win with the FG, this thread would not have been created. Garrett would all of a sudden be a great coach again.

But he didn't.

If Aaron Rodgers slams his head in the bathroom stall door at halftime giving himself a concussion we probably win too.

 

[Tommy]

What innovation has JG brought to the NFL or the Cowboys?

What?

Yeah, Im sure all the whiners in here would have been touting Landry's great innovations as he's losing playoff games.

 

[Ranching]

But he didn't.

If Aaron Rodgers slams his head in the bathroom stall door at halftime giving himself a concussion we probably win too.

If the queen had ......you know the rest. lol

 

[khiladi]

If you remember back in 1996 when the Cowboys beat the Steelers in the SB. What did Barry Switzer say to Jerry? "We won it our way, baby." Or something to that effect.

But Jimmy Johnson received the lions share of the credit for building that team. Not Barry or Jerry. And one of the last things Jimmy Johnson said to Jerry when he left is you'll never be able to win a SB without me. Again. Something to that effect.

Jerry has been trying to prove Jimmy wrong ever since. That he "Can" win a SB doing things his way.

Garrett is a huge part of that. Because Garrett lets Jerry do things "His Way". And tries to influence Jerry to stay true to JGs "Process" along the way.

Its all quite dysfunctional. But it does work to a degree. At least in the regular season. Just not so much in the playoffs. Obviously.

So unless the team just quits on Garrett like they did on Wade, JG is not going anywhere.

Sorry.

Garrett's father has been in Jerry's ear all along the way... he's the one that called Henson the next Aikman..

 

[Dodger12]

02? That long ? Wow! Dude please we have fans on here that's been Cowboys fans for over 40 years me included. I've been a fan since 1971 and in the entire time, I have never complained as much as some of you. So yes, once again go root for another team period. If this current team does not fit your liking than I would suggest finding another team to help you enjoying the feelings you seek.

Are you here to talk a little football or Dallas Cowboys or are you just here to ***** about the fans? And, as for stupid, anyone that mentions Garrett in the same sentence as Landry is a football idiot.

 

[haleyrules]

If the Cowboys are going to win with this Garrett...ole Jerry better surround him with the best Offensive and defensive players..plus the greatest OC and DC and not allow him to make any decisions of any kind...ever! Just stand him up on the sidelines and let him clap his hands. He should only be allowed to do the per/post game pressers..He IS an great talker and dream weaver!!

 

[robbieruff]

I didn't realize Jason Garrett was the offensive coordinator? When did he relieve Linehan of his play calling duties?
That's weird.

I've heard this comment a few times and I do accept the truism that Scott is the OC and that he calls the plays...that said, we all know that at any key moment the HC has direct lines of communications prior to a play call or even veto power after a play call to influence or even change the call. If he's sitting back passively all the while his OC betrays this team's identity time and again in short yardage and redzone situations last Sunday...well shoot that's even more damming...Garrett should've stepped in and flat laid it out that we needed to run the football in those situations. Point blank period. And I am a Garrett supporter, generally speaking.

 

[Dodger12]

You are missing half the equation when you say "stability". There's also the component of success.

Let's compare:

- Garrett has been head coach for 6 years (I won't count the interim year). He has 2 playoff appearances in 6 years and one playoff win in 6 years.

- Seattle with Carroll. In Carroll's first 6 years, they made the playoffs 5 times, made two Super Bowls and won one of them.

- Green Bay with McCarthy. In McCarthy's first 6 years, GB made the playoffs 4 times, went to two NFC Title games and won a SB.

- New England with Belichick. In his first 6 years as head coach in NE, they won the SB three times.

- Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin. In his first years as head coach in Pittsburgh, he made the playoffs 4 times, made the SB twice and won one.

- Pittsburgh with Bill Cowher. In his first 6 years as head coach in Pittsburgh, he made the playoffs all 6 seasons, made the AFC title game three times and lost a SB to the Cowboys.

So no offense, but when you try to cite stability as a strength here and then try to equate Garrett and the Cowboys with these other franchises and their coaches, you lose credibility here IMO. Those are horrible examples and if anything, undermine the point you were trying to make. Those franchises kept their coaches and stability because the coaches showed high levels of performance right from the start.

If Garrett can't push the franchise further next year, and win a playoff game or two, then I don't see how one can continue to argue that we need to keep him for "stability".

Great post......

Stability is important but, at the end of the day, if I can't count on my coach to make the right decisions in critical moments, then he offers very little. This whole angle of how he deals with Jerry or RKG is just fluff when folks have very little to offer regarding Garrett the HC. It almost seems like everything has to be perfect for this team to succeed in an NFL where no team is perfect or can be perfect due to FA and the salary cap.

 

[Direwolf63]

As I think about it, there might be one name who MAY consider coaching in Dallas. Sean Peyton. He may want $10M a year, but who cares? It's not my money.

But that's about it.

 

[superonyx]

I've heard this comment a few times and I do accept the truism that Scott is the OC and that he calls the plays...that said, we all know that at any key moment the HC has direct lines of communications prior to a play call or even veto power after a play call to influence or even change the call. If he's sitting back passively all the while his OC betrays this team's identity time and again in short yardage and redzone situations last Sunday...well shoot that's even more damming...Garrett should've stepped in and flat laid it out that we needed to run the football in those situations. Point blank period. And I am a Garrett supporter, generally speaking.

So if Scott has been successful at calling plays all season while we went 13-3 (14-2 really) and Beasly, Zeke, and Dak all had remarkable years. Dak was the highest rated rookie QB ever and 3rd in the league. Zeke would have broke Dickersons record if we ran him more at the end...you believe in this one scenario JG should just up and castrate Scott in front of his players? Take the chance that the running play doesn't work and then possibly mess up a healthy working relationship...

Or how do we know JG doesn't change Scotts play call from time to time and what success and failure rate he has when he does it?
We have people calling for JG's head over their perception that he let 1 questionable play call slide past him. Lets ignore all of the good play calls that actually worked. Even if JG did overrule Scott and that's why we threw the ball it wouldn't justify this dramatic over-reaction from some fans.

We scored on 6 of 9 offensive drives. Should either the OC or JG really be our focus at this point?
Lets attack and criticize the strongest part of our team.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

OK, so who do we realistically get to replace Garrett as HC. Remember, Jerry is the guy hiring the next HC.............for some reason, that fact doesn't give me a real warm fuzzy feeling.............

 

[sideon]

The fact that he's still making the same mistakes he did in 2011 is enough to get rid of him, Linehan deserves blame but clock management is all on Garrett. I truly believe that this team will never win as long as he's the HC.

 

[robbieruff]

So if Scott has been successful at calling plays all season while we went 13-3 (14-2 really) and Beasly, Zeke, and Dak all had remarkable years. Dak was the highest rated rookie QB ever and 3rd in the league. Zeke would have broke Dickersons record if we ran him more at the end...you believe in this one scenario JG should just up and castrate Scott in front of his players? Take the chance that the running play doesn't work and then possibly mess up a healthy working relationship...

Or how do we know JG doesn't change Scotts play call from time to time and what success and failure rate he has when he does it?
We have people calling for JG's head over their perception that he let 1 questionable play call slide past him. Lets ignore all of the good play calls that actually worked. Even if JG did overrule Scott and that's why we threw the ball it wouldn't justify this dramatic over-reaction from some fans.

We scored on 6 of 9 offensive drives. Should either the OC or JG really be our focus at this point?
Lets attack and criticize the strongest part of our team.

The strongest part of our team was rooted in the fact that we were a league leading RUSHING ATTACK that controlled the clock and wore down opponents. We completely betrayed that identity at key moments of the game Sunday and yes it was unforgivable and totally worthy of strong criticism. Linehan at best outsmarted himself and got away from what we do best which is extend drives and keep the chains moving, leading to touchdowns. Since you like stats, another thing we lead the league in (or at least near the top) was average plays per scoring drive...how did we mainly accomplish that??? YES....by rrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuunnnnnnnniiiinnnnnnggggg the rock!

- 3 and 2 of first drive...we threw.
- Redzone end of first half with Pack on their heels...we threw THREE STRAIGHT TIMES!
- 2 and 1 in redzone in 3rd...we throw a pick on the VERY SAME PLAY WE RAN IN WEEK SIX!?! With ZERO disguise of the formation or personnel!?! At the very least, if you want to throw on 2nd and short, take an end zone shot for the love of everything holy and NOT a WR screen!?! sigh...
- 3 and short on the final drive where clock burn was just as critical as scoring...we threw.

The fact is, Scotty boy reverted back to some pass happy ways when we had a totally rested back (idle since the 15th game) who was AVERAGING nearly six yards a carry.

As much as I respect your knowledge, my brotha, there is NO EXCUSE for us to betray our strengths and core team values under those circumstances. Made all the more egregious by the fact that, as you point out, we got such great results while playing THAT EXACt SAME WAY throughout the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON...and yet come playoff time we try to change it up???! SMH. That makes sense to you, man?

 

[Sydla]

As I think about it, there might be one name who MAY consider coaching in Dallas. Sean Peyton. He may want $10M a year, but who cares? It's not my money.

But that's about it.

You have no idea who would want the job or not. Stop acting like you do.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

Tony Romo for HC once he retires from playing...

 

[Clarkson]

As I always say: I hate this board after a loss. We have to have the whiniest, most ignorant fans.

 

[Sydla]

OK, so who do we realistically get to replace Garrett as HC. Remember, Jerry is the guy hiring the next HC.............for some reason, that fact doesn't give me a real warm fuzzy feeling.............

Again, Jerry doesn't have complete control anymore. He has taken a lot of advice and given up some power to Stephen. That started right around the time we started to get smarter in free agency and drafting.

My wild guess is that it wouldn't be Jerry hiring a coach by himself. Stephen would be very much involved.

But that also raises another interesting situation. It's been said that Red and Stephen are pretty close having worked together and being similar in age. It might not crazy to think Stephen would have trouble pulling the trigger on Garrett if things did go south here.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

What?

Yeah, Im sure all the whiners in here would have been touting Landry's great innovations as he's losing playoff games.

I was responding to comment that was trying to make it seem like because Landry than Garrett. Which is absurd.
Totally different times and circumstances and histories. This idea of "patience sometimes pays off" is understood but there is so much negative on Garrett's resume right now. He can't get this team passed the divisional round still. He is still having bone headed clock management issues. Was Landry having bone headed game management issues? Was he not able to get us passed the divisional round? How long did he take to get over bone headed game management issues and get us passed the divisional round? That's right how long? Tell me?

JG has been here for a good while and he has had a lot of talent on his team. Other coaches do more with less, talent and time. All I was asking for this season was for us to get passed divisional round with him. The team comes out totally unprepared against GB. Thats on him. No doubt.

 

[jgboys1]

The rest if the NFC would be doing cartwheels if we got rid of Garrett. He helped build a strong nucleus on which to build on and his teams never quit.

Remember Wade Philips and Barry Switzers teams? Towards the end of their coaching stints, the team quit on them, and they were only head coaches here

for 3 and 4 years respectively.

Garrett has been here for 7 years and they fight right to the end, just like they did when he first started.

 

[KJJ]

The defense gave up 3 TD's on the Packers first three possessions and we spent most of the game down by at least 2 TD's so that took us away from the running game some but I'm shocked Zeke only had one reception. I felt going into the game we needed to use him a lot as a receiver because our biggest play of the season was an 83 yard catch and run by Zeke for a TD. Should have gotten him involved in the passing game, he's a huge threat out in space.