Jason Garrett must go if this team wants a SB

[Direwolf63]

Jeff Fisher and Mike Shanahan might. They are desperate.

Norv Turner might.

 

[BigD16]

Jason Garrett would make for an excellent politician.

 

[LittleD]

Garrett needs to go. He is the worst head coach in football.

Giving A-Rod the ball two extra times because he has no idea how a clock operate is beyond terrible. I said it before and i'll say it again: He put out biggest weakness (our pass defense) up against their greatest strength (their passing offense) two more times than necessary. That is awful coaching.

There was an article a few years ago on the bloggingthebeast that showcased this fact over and over again. In fact, it had like 18 time management issues in his first 31 games. The man has cost us no less than two other playoff appearances and yesterday he cost us a playoff game simply because he has no idea how a clock operates.

Against the Packers-We were up against the Packers Huge with Demarco Murray averaging seven yards a carry, and we lost because Garrett wouldn't run the ball.

Against the Lion- Same thing happened when we were up huge against the Lions.

Against Arizona- He iced his own kicker, and even though the kick could have been closer, he decided to wait an not use his timeout.

Against Baltimore-He set up his own kicker for a 51 yards FG when we had time and timeouts to get closer, but he just let the clock run down.

Against the Commanders last year when they let us score and we just gave the ball back to them.

Against the Steelers this year. They let us score super quick so they could get the ball back-thankfully, they also scored quickly.


He Sucks. He needs to go asap. Fire Garrett.

Jerry called and said...thanks for playing. Jason is his adopted son and his Landry clone so forget about Jason Garrett not finishing
out his contract.

 

[dallasdave]

Could not agree more...he has had plenty of time to right the ship. He just doesn't have "it". Great guy, decent coach, but not a great coach. You need the great coach to right this ship and put the final piece in the puzzle.

Need a guy like Jimmy Johnson.

 

[superonyx]

The strongest part of our team was rooted in the fact that we were a league leading RUSHING ATTACK that controlled the clock and wore down opponents. We completely betrayed that identity at key moments of the game Sunday and yes it was unforgivable and totally worthy of strong criticism. Linehan at best outsmarted himself and got away from what we do best which is extend drives and keep the chains moving, leading to touchdowns. Since you like stats, another thing we lead the league in (or at least near the top) was average plays per scoring drive...how did we mainly accomplish that??? YES....by rrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuunnnnnnnniiiinnnnnnggggg the rock!

- 3 and 2 of first drive...we threw.
- Redzone end of first half with Pack on their heels...we threw THREE STRAIGHT TIMES!
- 2 and 1 in redzone in 3rd...we throw a pick on the VERY SAME PLAY WE RAN IN WEEK SIX!?! With ZERO disguise of the formation or personnel!?! At the very least, if you want to throw on 2nd and short, take an end zone shot for the love of everything holy and NOT a WR screen!?! sigh...
- 3 and short on the final drive where clock burn was just as critical as scoring...we threw.

The fact is, Scotty boy reverted back to some pass happy ways when we had a totally rested back (idle since the 15th game) who was AVERAGING nearly six yards a carry.

As much as I respect your knowledge, my brotha, there is NO EXCUSE for us to betray our strengths and core team values under those circumstances. Made all the more egregious by the fact that, as you point out, we got such great results while playing THAT EXACt SAME WAY throughout the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON...and yet come playoff time we try to change it up???! SMH. That makes sense to you, man?

Part of success in the NFL is not being too predictable. We all see how play action is so effective due to the fear Zeke puts in defenders.
Lets look at a comparison between the first and second time we played the packers.
Week 6- 62 plays 424 yards 30 points.
Playoffs 64 plays 429 yards 31 points.

The difference is the packers turned the ball over 4 times in the first game.

Could we have played perfect on offense and scored 40 points? Maybe. It would have required this in order to win because even scoring 31 points and scoring on 6 of 9 offensive possessions wasn't enough last game. The last team with the ball was going to win that game.

 

[Zman5]

The strongest part of our team was rooted in the fact that we were a league leading RUSHING ATTACK that controlled the clock and wore down opponents. We completely betrayed that identity at key moments of the game Sunday and yes it was unforgivable and totally worthy of strong criticism. Linehan at best outsmarted himself and got away from what we do best which is extend drives and keep the chains moving, leading to touchdowns. Since you like stats, another thing we lead the league in (or at least near the top) was average plays per scoring drive...how did we mainly accomplish that??? YES....by rrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuunnnnnnnniiiinnnnnnggggg the rock!

- 3 and 2 of first drive...we threw.
- Redzone end of first half with Pack on their heels...we threw THREE STRAIGHT TIMES!
- 2 and 1 in redzone in 3rd...we throw a pick on the VERY SAME PLAY WE RAN IN WEEK SIX!?! With ZERO disguise of the formation or personnel!?! At the very least, if you want to throw on 2nd and short, take an end zone shot for the love of everything holy and NOT a WR screen!?! sigh...
- 3 and short on the final drive where clock burn was just as critical as scoring...we threw.

The fact is, Scotty boy reverted back to some pass happy ways when we had a totally rested back (idle since the 15th game) who was AVERAGING nearly six yards a carry.

As much as I respect your knowledge, my brotha, there is NO EXCUSE for us to betray our strengths and core team values under those circumstances. Made all the more egregious by the fact that, as you point out, we got such great results while playing THAT EXACt SAME WAY throughout the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON...and yet come playoff time we try to change it up???! SMH. That makes sense to you, man?

JG did the same thing in the 2007 playoff game. Our offensive formula that year was get some quick scores then run out the clock with Barber as the closer.

JG completely changed this up in that playoff game. He basically reversed how we did things during the regular season by starting Barber and then running him in to the ground in the first half.

 

[robbieruff]

Part of success in the NFL is not being too predictable. We all see how play action is so effective due to the fear Zeke puts in defenders.
Lets look at a comparison between the first and second time we played the packers.
Week 6- 62 plays 424 yards 30 points.
Playoffs 64 plays 429 yards 31 points.

The difference is the packers turned the ball over 4 times in the first game.

Could we have played perfect on offense and scored 40 points? Maybe. It would have required this in order to win because even scoring 31 points and scoring on 6 of 9 offensive possessions wasn't enough last game. The last team with the ball was going to win that game.

I certainly agree with those points...thus my criticism of the 2 and 1 play that led to the pick. We ran that play in week 6 with the same personnel, formation and even position on the field - how's that for predictable??! So being unpredictable clearly wasn't the primary driver of those decisions from what I can see...

This team's greatest success, historically speaking (and I have been closely watch Cowboys football for more than 40 years), is superior execution...not outscheming people. Our team of the 90's ran the lead draw in probably 75% of running plays and dared teams to stop them, which they couldn't. If you're an elite running team and that's what your pedigree is based on then you need to stick to what you do well and FORCE the other team to stop it.

And you want to know my take on the difference between Week 6 and last Sunday is? Zeke had 30 touches in week 6 and only 23 last Sunday. He has 30 touches on Sunday and we're walking away with the W...plain and simple.

 

[KJJ]

This season started getting away from us starting around week 12 with the Commanders. The defense was starting to show cracks at that point giving up 3 TD's on the Commanders final three possessions, causing us to have to hang on. We showed no killer instinct in that game. We could have won that game going away but our defense couldn't keep Washington from scoring when they needed to. The following week we didn't look very good beating Minn and we followed that game up with our second loss to the Giants in a poor performance. We then struggled at home against a Bucs team that didn't make the playoffs. Once the Cowboys locked up a playoff spot you could tell the team was starting to lose it's focus some, we clearly weren't playing the kind of football we saw from weeks 5-10 when we were playing our best football of the season. Against the Lions in week 16 it became apparent we were in shutdown mode looking ahead to the playoffs.

Our defense looked awful in the first half giving up 21 points, before waking up in the second half. We then made the big mistake of mailing in the season finale while the Packers were having to win out to make the playoffs. Like in 2007 we caught a hot team on the rise that needed to win games, while we had cooled down looking ahead to the playoffs. This season had 07 written all over it starting around week 12 with Washington and it was week 14 vs Detroit in 2007 when that Cowboys team started to fade. The 2014 team was playing much better football to close out that season than our 2016 team. We were riding a 4 game winning streak into the playoffs in 2014 after destroying Washington in a meaningless season finale.

Garrett commented he played his starters a lot in that game because he wanted the team to be playing their best football entering the playoffs and we were. It earned us a playoff win and we held the lead on the Packers for much of that game during the divisional round. Garrett clearly didn't have the team ready for the playoffs this season and why he went away from the approach he had in 2014 is beyond me. He obviously must have feared injury and wrapping things up early was the worst thing that could have happened to the 2016 team and I said that weeks ago after we clinched. We became complacent while the Packers became more focused needing to win out to make the playoffs.

 

[superonyx]

JG did the same thing in the 2007 playoff game. Our offensive formula that year was get some quick scores then run out the clock with Barber as the closer.

JG completely changed this up in that playoff game. He basically reversed how we did things during the regular season by starting Barber and then running him in to the ground in the first half.

But we ran the same amount of plays for the same amount of yards and the same amount of points as we did the first time we played them.
We scored on 6 of 9 possessions. The difference is they only scored 16 points the first game because they had 4 turnovers.
How can I be mad at the offense when it performed exceptional? Dak 300+ yards. Zeke 100 + yards, Dek 100+ yards and 31 points.

When you give up 3rd and 20 with 3 seconds left you have to point the finger at the fact that we just didn't have a good enough defense to overcome Rodgers and the refs.

 

[ShiningStar]

i love the two different type of defense for Garrett. First is "hey if we get a perfect team, than Garrett will be a better coach" its as simple as that, with a perfect team that compensate for what he lacks, than we ll have a great time. Makes sense, because that leads up to the other argument i enjoy here. "Hey mediocrity is accepted around here" Those that defend Garrett who has earned the nickname "coach one and done" If thats what you love, hey more power to you. I am a fine of the Dallas Cowboys, not this acceptance of "middle of the road is just fine for us, give us an 8-8 season and we ll give you stats that show its been a great year"... or. "Listen man, not making noise in the playoffs is awesome, when i watch this team kick its own butt, i raise my bottle and salute it, because it keeps us in line of, we dont have to win just being nominated is awesome enough"

Smh. The culture of mediocrity will never sit for me because thats not what Dallas was built on.

 

[Direwolf63]

Need a guy like Jimmy Johnson.

Jimmy Johnson is happily retired and living a life of luxury in south Florida while making piles of cash with FOX. And while Jimmy and Jerry have somewhat made up for their break up in 1994, they are not exactly buddies anymore. So I don't see him going to Dallas working with Jerry.

Anybody else?

 

[dallasdave]

Jimmy Johnson is happily retired and living a life of luxury in south Florida while making piles of cash with FOX. And while Jimmy and Jerry have somewhat made up for their break up in 1994, they are not exactly buddies anymore. So I don't see him going to Dallas working with Jerry.

Anybody else?

I said "Like" Jimmy not Jimmy --he is 74 years old we need a coach LIKE Jimmy who is about 40 to 50 years old.

 

[ShiningStar]

Dak and Zeke are young, hopefully bringing in a young talented DE, lets bring in a young coach who will finish up our core and work with them for years to come. WE have zero time to waste on this, get a coach whos excited about winning, build an attacking 4-3 defense to go afters qbs and a coach who wont say "hell we are running good on them, LETS GO TO THE PASS" its time to get a coach who executes well.

 

[Zman5]

But we ran the same amount of plays for the same amount of yards and the same amount of points as we did the first time we played them.
We scored on 6 of 9 possessions. The difference is they only scored 16 points the first game because they had 4 turnovers.
How can I be mad at the offense when it performed exceptional? Dak 300+ yards. Zeke 100 + yards, Dek 100+ yards and 31 points.

When you give up 3rd and 20 with 3 seconds left you have to point the finger at the fact that we just didn't have a good enough defense to overcome Rodgers and the refs.

The main point here is why change the formula that got you to 13-3 and to the playoffs. There was a formula that worked all thorough out the season yet JG/Linehan decided to deviate from it for the playoffs. That's like GB going run heavy instead of having ARod pass.

That makes no sense.

 

[Direwolf63]

i love the two different type of defense for Garrett. First is "hey if we get a perfect team, than Garrett will be a better coach" its as simple as that, with a perfect team that compensate for what he lacks, than we ll have a great time. Makes sense, because that leads up to the other argument i enjoy here. "Hey mediocrity is accepted around here" Those that defend Garrett who has earned the nickname "coach one and done" If thats what you love, hey more power to you. I am a fine of the Dallas Cowboys, not this acceptance of "middle of the road is just fine for us, give us an 8-8 season and we ll give you stats that show its been a great year"... or. "Listen man, not making noise in the playoffs is awesome, when i watch this team kick its own butt, i raise my bottle and salute it, because it keeps us in line of, we dont have to win just being nominated is awesome enough"

Smh. The culture of mediocrity will never sit for me because thats not what Dallas was built on.

If you want to dump the guy, fine. But I would really like to hear some names of who is ready to deal and work with Jerry Jones. I have given 5 names so far:

Jeff Fisher - Based in his head coaching track record, I don't see the team improving under him.
Norv Tuner - A fan favorite because of his time as a OC in Dallas. But his record is as a very good OC, but not a good HC. The offensive version of Wade Phillips. We tried Wade and it didn't work.
Mike Shanahan - Hasn't coached in forever. Risk here is that the game has passed him by.
Sean Peyton - Took N.O. from nowhere to the Super Bowl back down to mediocrity. All that with a Hall of Fame QB. I might by OK with him. Just worried about the defense. Based on the results in N.O., he seems to show little interest on that side of the ball.
Scott Linehan - No success his previous stint as a HC with the Rams. Not sure he would be any better than we already have.

So other than perhaps Peyton, I don't see any saviors here who will work with Jerry.

So I have come up with some names and have struck out. Who else is there that is worth starting over for?

If you are dumping the HC, you need to replace him with somebody, unless we decide to leave to position vacant. It's easy to say dump the coach. It's a little tougher to figure out who yo replace him with. Especially under the current managment structure of the team.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Garrett has done wonder's with this team. Took 3 teams that should have won no more than 3 or 4 games to 8-8.. one to 12-4 and one to 13-3.. one bad season at 4-12 and it was bad, very bad. His clock management is just fine. Watch other games, every coach makes mistakes. And besides, even if were going to change coaches.. who? There is not one coach available or was available that would even be half as good as Garrett. Some of the hate on this board and from fans is just stupid.

 

[ShiningStar]

If you want to dump the guy, fine. But I would really like to hear some names of who is ready to deal and work with Jerry Jones. I have given 5 names so far:

Jeff Fisher - Based in his head coaching track record, I don't see the team improving under him.
Norv Tuner - A fan favorite because of his time as a OC in Dallas. But his record is as a very good OC, but not a good HC. The offensive version of Wade Phillips. We tried Wade and it didn't work.
Mike Shanahan - Hasn't coached in forever. Risk here is that the game has passed him by.
Sean Peyton - Took N.O. from nowhere to the Super Bowl back down to mediocrity. All that with a Hall of Fame QB. I might by OK with him. Just worried about the defense. Based on the results in N.O., he seems to show little interest on that side of the ball.
Scott Linehan - No success his previous stint as a HC with the Rams. Not sure he would be any better than we already have.

So other than perhaps Peyton, I don't see any saviors here who will work with Jerry.

So I have come up with some names and have struck out. Who else is there that is worth starting over for?

If you are dumping the HC, you need to replace him with somebody, unless we decide to leave to position vacant. It's easy to say dump the coach. It's a little tougher to figure out who yo replace him with. Especially under the current managment structure of the team.

Finally a worthy response, this is all acceptable, so if i have to run with it, give me a few to do some researching.

On your own list. Real simple, none of them. Mainly agreeing with all your points.

Would Kyle Shanahan be worth it, just throwing that one out for now.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

The main point here is why change the formula that got you to 13-3 and to the playoffs. There was a formula that worked all thorough out the season yet JG/Linehan decided to deviate from it for the playoffs. That's like GB going run heavy instead of having ARod pass.

That makes no sense.

Except for the fact that it was successful. You have a rookie qb and for 2 quarters, he outplayed one of the best in the game. The problem, was its a 4 Q game. The first 2 Q count and we were down quick and by a lot. Takes the running game out of the game plan.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I've been a critic of Jason Garrett for a long time. His clock mismanagement, the weekly penalties that are like clockwork, the inexplicable habit of turning away from what works to the detriment of the team's success and the lack of playoff success...these things have pushed me to believe he needs to go.

This past game was the last straw. Zeke Elliot is the best player on offense and yet he only gets 23 touches. They come out looking completely unprepared on both sides of the ball. Multiple times in short yardage Zeke wasn't even on the field.

And the last series where the game was lost is solely on Jason Garrett. There is no defending it. A competent HC either wins the game there or leaves the Packers with so little time overtime is all but assured.

Jason Garrett has done all he can as the HC of this team. It will always end the same way with him. How many failed seasons does this guy get before he's held accountable? How many coordinators will they go through? How many QBs?

They need fresh blood on the sidelines. I know it won't happen but I feel it must for this team to get over the hump and win another Lombardi. Just MHO.

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[ShiningStar]

here are two guys id consider right now.



David Shaw, Stanford, head coach

Age: 42

College: Stanford

Pro experience: Nine seasons

College experience: 11 seasons, four as head coach

College head coaching record: 42-12 (2-2 in bowl games)

Résumé: NFL folks seem to believe Andrew Luck’s former coach is another guy who would be open to the right opportunity. His representatives notified teams last December he wouldn’t be entertaining any pro offers and that he would remain at Stanford, where he played receiver for Dennis Green and Bill Walsh. Yet NFL sources believe Shaw could be wooed with the promise of a talented young passer. But, said one evaluator, “It might just have to be Luck.” The biggest on-field knock on Shaw is the notion that he’s too conservative, but his coaching record speaks for itself.

M.O.: Shaw is one of the few college coaches who still runs something close to an NFL offense, and he proved himself by building upon the foundation Jim Harbaugh left by winning two Pac-12 titles. If you’re his GM, plan to draft a lot of tight ends.

* * *

8) Frank Reich, San Diego, offensive coordinator

Age: 53

College: Maryland

Pro experience: Seven seasons, one as coordinator (San Diego 2014)

Résumé: The former NFL quarterback is still learning from an offensive-minded head coach (Mike McCoy), but Reich is a rising star. With another season of play-calling and another resurgent year by Philip Rivers, Reich could have a head-coaching job next offseason. A one-time pastor after leaving the NFL as a player in 1998, Reich has been impressive in interviews, though some wonder if he lacks the demeanor of a head coach.

M.O.: Former quarterback, but his strong suit could very well be in instructing wide receivers. Has a good grasp for teaching passing concepts, which is vital in today’s NFL.