Jerry does not care about winning, anyone agree?

plymkr

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Same as always. He wants to win very badly but he cares much more about winning his way or because of him.

He wants to prove it was him not Jimmy that was responsible for the 90s SB wins. He's wrong about that but won't admit it. He views the value of the franchise and his HOF induction as merits to his theories that he's the reason for the 3 rings.
I feel this true and I want to add that it's time Jerry got over it. Jimmy hasn't been here for 30 years. Dude get over it, Jerry is still emotionally stuck on Johnson getting the credit for the team he built. It's time to get over it and let it go, it's been way to long to keep hearing Jimmy's name come up season after season for 30 years.
 

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Not really.

He would do anything besides give up the GM role, including selling his soul to the devil.
Do you honestly think the Devil would make this deal? I mean that's a lot of lip smacking and round about conversations the Devil would have to put up with for all eternity.
 

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Same as always. He wants to win very badly but he cares much more about winning his way or because of him.

He wants to prove it was him not Jimmy that was responsible for the 90s SB wins. He's wrong about that but won't admit it. He views the value of the franchise and his HOF induction as merits to his theories that he's the reason for the 3 rings.
Nonsense
 

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Jerry wanted us to take Manziel in the 1st Rd to remember......

Lucky Steven booted him out of the War room and JJ is past it as there is no Emmitt / Aikman and Irvin available anymore let alone Jimmy Johnson as a HC who the idiot fired.

I am so over JJ ruling this franchise.

Because there are no other bad general managers out there.

You're sill if you think Jerry put this roster together all by his lonesome
 

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He cares. He wants to win.

He just can't set aside his ego and realize he probably needs to make some significant changes if he wants to win a SB in his remaining years on this planet.

^THIS.

He’s not getting any younger. He already has all the money he and his family need for... ever. I’m certain that a championship is just about the only thing that Jerry wants.

And every time we think he’s about to learn or change, - 2014 season happens, or a 2016 season. Those runs that get everyone excited and crown him king, convincing him he’s in the right path.
 

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Jerry is something else but winning, jeryy wants nothing but to win. Problem is he needs to make better decisions.
 

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He wants to win it his way, without Jimmy, without help from others. He wants it based on his choices, his coaches, his plan.
And he is too stubborn and / or senile to admit he is wrong. Now without Zeke he will have a built in excuse to keep the status quo through 2018 at least.

This is true, why I'm the first to like this post amazes me. This is also the reason that he won't hire a coach with any pedigree, a coach of that ilk would be able to tell him to "stay out of the x's and o's" and would have the rep to stand behind it, he would also get the credit for turning the organization around and JJ couldn't stand that. The Gailey, Campos, Phillips and Garrett all were just happy to get a head coaching job that they would do whatever JJ says. When Parcells was hired, JJ is on camera saying that the only reason he hire him was to get the stadium bill passed, so he went out of character but not for long.
 

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I think the opposite. He's been chasing that next SB win so bad that it's led to multiple "sure-fire, missing piece for a SB run" in both FA and in the draft that have actually set us back.

In his mind, he's probably convinced that him remaining as the GM is not a detriment to the team's success because he believes the personnel portion is more of a "group think" with Stephen, McClay and the Coaches.Whether it truly is or isn't, no one knows. I haven't questioned the personnel department since about 2013. I do question the his and Stephen's faith in Jason Garrett, however.

If the salary cap was dissolved tomorrow, Jerry would be the one owner pouring as much money into FA as it took to stack the roster. That, I have no doubt.

That's the same as throw parts at a car when you have mechanical issues, when you do that you really don't know how to troubleshoot so you just keep spending money until the car starts.
 

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As an outsider looking in I believe he wants to win, but only under his terms.

I think profit is his biggest priority, and he doesn't get his own ego out of the way when it comes to decision making.

He as an owner won Super Bowls by hiring great football people and delegating authority. Those he hired made it look easy, so easy that he wrongly thought he could take it on himself and be as successful.

Seems like now he is on a quest to prove the doubters wrong and failing badly at it.

The bolded is what I think is easily underestimated, I think this also. IT JUST CAME TO EASY.
 

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Fans are dumb

You were just 13-3 last year

Emmitt Smith knows football. Emmitt Smith did not how to transfer that knowledge to viewers

When exactly would you have fired Garrett?

After three straight 8-8? Because that was really your only chance. You weren't going to fire him after he lost Tony Romo in 2015.

The two times Jason job was on the line, he pulled a 12 win and 13 win season out his culo.

When do you fire him?

I think he's gone if he doesn't win at least 9 this season.

That Tampa 2 worked in Chicago not that long ago.

Why? Elite Personnel up front?

I hate whiners

After the 8-8 season, Garrett works pretty good with low expectations and a last place schedule. He never should have been hired, his credentials weren't not up to standards.
 

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I think Jerry wants to win but just doesn't know how to go about it, nor is he willing to hire a GM that does. As an owner, he'll do whatever it takes to sell his brand but not everything it takes to win. His priorities as an owner conflict with his duties as a GM. He'd much sooner prefer spending his time and energy building monuments like "Jerry World" to flaunt his glory rather than doing what it would likely take to build his team into a viable Super Bowl contender. Unfortunately, the welfare of his team simply rests upon a slippery slope with him in charge.
 
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Because there are no other bad general managers out there.

You're sill if you think Jerry put this roster together all by his lonesome
Still his fault because he's the owner too. He hired all the people who help make the decisions with him. And unlike other GM's Jerry doesn't have to answer to anybody. Nobody can fire him. We're stuck with him.
 

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I disagree.
His ego wants to produce a winner, to show he can win one without any excuse that Jimmy built that championship team.
Of course he is about money, but at his age, I would bet he cares more about a championship than a few extra millions.
 

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Garrett as coach
Marinelli as DC, Tampa 2, that was Dungy and Kiffin scheme, 10-38 as head coach
No FA signings
Callahan, lol
But his wallet getting fatter and fatter but we haven't won since 1995.

I'm just venting, It's just sad that our team can't compete year in year out but always has the highest grossing team and always have the highest ratings on TV.

I feel like a Knicks fan :(
He certainly wants to win, it's just that he (and this team) don't have the ability in the current NFL environment (salary cap etc.) to successfully put a truly competative team on the field of play.
Any success we have looks almost accidental because the following year will never be as good and to date this year is following that pattern. :(
 

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Wonder how many start dumping their tickets now, especially for lower cost. and other teams fans scoop them up even more.
But somehow I do not see Jerry seeing this is enough to make a change.

In 2 years, if not next year, Cleveland will have surpassed us. Eagles did it in 2 years....TWO YEARS....they have coaches getting unknown players to play very well....in 2 years they did this....we have after 8 years...well, we need a war daddy, we have a secret sauce, we had injuries (which that does not help) however, other teams succeed with injuries. this has even taken me a few years to truly admit.

We also get...let's try to be cute and out smart other teams by gambling on player XYZ....we want the RKG's, but get punked time and time again. But I will say we as fans can't for see that all the time either.
 

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Garrett as coach
Marinelli as DC, Tampa 2, that was Dungy and Kiffin scheme, 10-38 as head coach
No FA signings
Callahan, lol
But his wallet getting fatter and fatter but we haven't won since 1995.

I'm just venting, It's just sad that our team can't compete year in year out but always has the highest grossing team and always have the highest ratings on TV.

I feel like a Knicks fan :(


He cares about winning but Jerry's ego is priority #1 by a long shot. Winning is secondary.
 
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