Jerry: I'm reluctant to bet it all for just one year

[GMO415]

Keep doing what you're doing Jerry. 28 years with the same results. Moron.

 

[IrishAnto]

For any of you hoping for an active offseason.
15:25 mark of the video. Jerry is asked after watching the Rams and Eagles approach to the Super Bowl what is the Cowboys plan. He says he knows how to do what those teams have done but if you miss it's a long way back. He's reluctant to go all in for a year. He thinks long term.



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As an added bonus you can go back to the 13:25 mark and hear how they didn't mismanage the WR position by trading Cooper for nothing. It was relying too much on Jalen Tolbert that was the mistake. How do you address it this year? "We need Tolbert to come on as a young player".

And lastly back to 17:35 you can hear Jerry's sales pitch to you for 2023 when asked how he gets fans excited for next year.

"Dwell on the fact that we have some of the best personnel in the NFL. Dwell on the fact that you have Dak. Focus on that."

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And one more gem right after. The yearly man in the mirror talk.

"There's been a lot of change here over the last 25 years the same way there would have been had you changed GMs and Owners. I have to change in my mirror. I want to emphasize that."

How much longer does he think he has?

 

[GINeric]

We're not winning another Superbowl until Jerry dies... its just that simple. It may sound harsh, but that's just the reality. No disrespect to him because he did help bring us 3 rings, but his time is up as a successful GM.

 

[Big_D]

He wasted 3 decades! Now he’s reluctant at 80??? lol

 

[Pola_pe_a]

They can resign Hargrave as well to save up to $10 million in cap space.

One nit though. Cox ain't saving them cap space if he's cut. His dead money eats into their cap savings. He has a $10 million dead money hit as a pre-June 1 cut. They'd actually have to advance $6 million against the cap as a pre June 1 cut. They only save $1.5 million post June 1. The problem with Cox is that he has 2-3 years of those dummy contract years Howie has used where they jammed restructure money into. Now they have to pay the piper.

Hargrave won’t be back, will be too expensive.
Cox will be a post June 1 cut.

 

[Diehardblues]

Good point. Excellent point actually.

These results are the results they want.

They’d love it if the results were better of course but these are acceptable . And good enough to keep the hype and revenue stream at record pace.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Hargraves deal voids before the start of the fiscal season 23.

Unless you think he will forgo his chance to get a mega contract in FA? When it voids it will be 4 mill in dead cap.

This is an example of why it is frustrating trying to have serious football conversations with people who are just cheerleaders of other teams.

It does leave a 4 mil cap hit but also frees up 7 mil in cap space.

Funny you call others a cheerleader when you are touting the team building ways of the Cowboys that has led to 4 playoff wins in 23 years.

 

[Diehardblues]

He wasted 3 decades! Now he’s reluctant at 80??? lol

To him nothing has been wasted . He’s taken the Cowboys to heights financially professional sports has never seen.

He’ll be in his 250 million dollar yacht after the Super Bowl while we are still on here hashing it out. He’s living the dream all on our nickel.

 

[Chuck 54]

hey that is the first rule of team building if it didnt work for the first 26 or 27 time in a row u keep doing the same thing

Just to be fair, for many of those years, Jerry was actually very active with trades and in Free agency, signing big names to huge contracts. It never worked out, and we were saddled with dead salaries and cap issues. Now, unfortunately, he has cold feet.

 

[G2]

Even if Philly loses in the SB, they built a better team than we did. They got way farther than we did. Who wouldn't take the Cowboys in the SB twice in 5 years with one SB win? No one.

And you overstate how much they will have to tear it down. But then again, they tore down after the 2017 SB and guess what? Here they are again. Gun to head, who here would pick the Cowboys to reach a SB before the Eagles going forward? Only the homers would pick the team that hasn't been to a SB IN 27 years over a team that has been to two in 5 years where they had a rebuild in between appearances.

Again, belitting what Philly does is hilarious.

PS - They will use both firsts unless they use one for a trade. What do you mean they can't use both firsts due to their cap?

I don't think it's sustainable, but your point remains. Who wouldn't take Philly if there's a SB appearance every 5 seasons.
They've also illustrated that they are a better team than Dallas at this point especially. When it matters. Better team.

 

[Big_D]

They’d love it if the results were better of course but these are acceptable . And good enough to keep the hype and revenue stream at record pace.

Doesn’t he say every offseason like clockwork how bad he wants to win and he would do anything?

Then he says something so ridiculous and negates that altogether. People still want to buy it though.

 

[JayFord]

Bet it all

win a superbowl and be trash for 5 years

works fine with me......The Giants have been a bottom of the barrell but theyve lucked into 2 superbows

 

[Ken]

It does leave a 4 mil cap hit but also frees up 7 mil in cap space.

Funny you call others a cheerleader when you are touting the team building ways of the Cowboys that has led to 4 playoff wins in 23 years.

Their cap is really in flux looking at it. There are voids all over the place and I am not sure what is counting and what isn't. Like Kelce's deal...good chance he retires. Good chance that money accelerates.

 

[visionary]

Even if Philly loses in the SB, they built a better team than we did. They got way farther than we did. Who wouldn't take the Cowboys in the SB twice in 5 years with one SB win? No one.

And you overstate how much they will have to tear it down. But then again, they tore down after the 2017 SB and guess what? Here they are again. Gun to head, who here would pick the Cowboys to reach a SB before the Eagles going forward? Only the homers would pick the team that hasn't been to a SB IN 27 years over a team that has been to two in 5 years where they had a rebuild in between appearances.

Again, belitting what Philly does is hilarious.

PS - They will use both firsts unless they use one for a trade. What do you mean they can't use both firsts due to their cap?

Lies all lies
Philly is not in the SB

Signed
@Ken

 

[Diehardblues]

Doesn’t he say every offseason like clockwork how bad he wants to win and he would do anything?

Then he says something so ridiculous and negates that altogether. People still want to buy it though.

Doesn’t he say every offseason like clockwork how bad he wants to win and he would do anything?

Then he says something so ridiculous and negates that altogether. People still want to buy it though.

Yep

It is what it is. Rinse and repeat.

But it’s why I waved my white flag years ago and lowered my expectations.

 

[Dallasfann]

Jerry keeps the cowboys as the laughing stock of the league

The Cowboys aren't close to the laughing stock of the league. They make the playoffs most years, win a lot of football games and draft well. There are so many more teams that are way worse then the Cowboys. Your hate Cowboy goggles are just on way to tight for you to admit it.

 

[DFWJC]

To be fair, he has made a few big trades or FA adds in the past... usually, but not only on WRs... (Cooper, Roy Williams, TO, Deion Sanders, Galloway, Brandon Carr....)
It hasn't been like this every year for 27 years some are saying.
He has tried it both ways, just maybe not as often as some would like

 

[Sydla]

Hargraves deal voids before the start of the fiscal season 23.

Unless you think he will forgo his chance to get a mega contract in FA? When it voids it will be 4 mill in dead cap.

This is an example of why it is frustrating trying to have serious football conversations with people who are just cheerleaders of other teams.

Except you think you know what you are talking about and actually don't. So saying your frustrated having a converation with people who dont know what they are talking about is kind of ironic.

Actually Hargraves' dead money for 2023 is close to $12 million, not $4 million. When he signed his deal originally, they created two dummy years in 2023 and 2024 to spread his signing bonus beyond the 3 years of the actual deal. However, the next year they restructured him and created a 3rd dummy year and spread money into that. So when his contract voids, they have to advance $4.9 million of the original prorated bonus but also approx. $6.9 million of the restructure.

However, if they sign him to an extension, they can create cap space because they can essentially bury that dead money in the new deal. Philly pays for DTs, it's a priority position. He's also expressed a desire to stay in Philly. So don't be surprised if he signs an extension in the next few weeks as his contract voids around Feb 20th or so and they end up saving 6-7-8 or so million on the 2023 cap ($10 million is a bit high, my math was off).

 

[Creeper]

Weren't the Eagles in the Super Bowl in 2018? Jerry doesn't even know the fact. He is just spewing nonsense now. The only way we win another Super Bowl is by accident as long as Jerry is in charge.

 

[Ken]

Except you think you know what you are talking about and actually don't. So saying your frustrated having a converation with people who dont know what they are talking about is kind of ironic.

Actually Hargraves' dead money for 2023 is close to $12 million, not $4 million. When he signed his deal originally, they created two dummy years in 2023 and 2024 to spread his signing bonus beyond the 3 years of the actual deal. However, the next year they restructured him and created a 3rd dummy year and spread money into that. So when his contract voids, they have to advance $4.9 million of the original prorated bonus but also approx. $6.9 million of the restructure.

However, if they sign him to an extension, they can create cap space because they can essentially bury that dead money in the new deal. Philly pays for DTs, it's a priority position. He's also expressed a desire to stay in Philly. So don't be surprised if he signs an extension in the next few weeks as his contract voids around Feb 20th or so and they end up saving 6-7-8 or so million on the 2023 cap ($10 million is a bit high, my math was off).

I actually understand his contract and mentioned the acceleration of the dead money. Maybe I worded it badly but I can see the numbers.

Philly could keep him if they poney up a huge contract. This is true. Good for them. He wouldn't be what I save out of their FA's . Gardner Johnson is younger, he is who i would save.

They have a lot of coconut shuffling to do, let's see how they come out of it. It is far from a forgone conclusion that they have all of this figured out. It looks like they do whatever they can to push the pain down the line to me.